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Max, you rascal.
I ride for Michael McDonald. Absolutely no question about that.
I ride for Michael McDonald. Absolutely no question about that.
Some of you olds should check out Thundercat. Bass guitarist/producer/musician, who does a lot of stuff w/ Flying Lotus, as well as Kendrick.
His 2017 release 'Drunk' is all over those fancy eclectic year end lists you guys enjoy - song on there with McDonald & Kenny Loggins which is pretty dope.
Guy has a cool sound.
His 2017 release 'Drunk' is all over those fancy eclectic year end lists you guys enjoy - song on there with McDonald & Kenny Loggins which is pretty dope.
Guy has a cool sound.
I believe I can speak for UCL and say that we are well aware of the Thundercats.
The shot that sent the game to OT last night was absolutely silly. Like he didnt know what he was going to do when he got in the air and decided to hang up there for awhile until he could figure it out.
Felt bad for Vitale- his recruit (RyMac) played pretty terrible last night, almost like he has no business playing at that level.
Tiger keeps it close to level par today, imo. Possibly just wishful thinking for the guy- but making the cut and making it through 4 rounds would be a pretty good outcome.
We are hosting a dinner party tonight- largely bc my wife wanted to use the dining room table and the nice plates. Not an all-out friendsgiving. Not one of those odd progressive editions where you have to relocate for each course- just a few folks gathering for a good meal of food and a bunch of wine and spirits. Playlist is developing- easily the most crucial part of the planning.
BBdk gchatted, yes, but he was talking to an empty computer screen. I would have responded if he would have just dialed me up on the cell phone, especially once I noticed how important the issue was.
wcc- are your fireplaces operational (wood burning, obviously)? If not then you basically just have an old tile border outlining a hole in your wall?
TopGolfing this weekend-- pretty excited about the outing, and to show off the stinger i've been working on.
Felt bad for Vitale- his recruit (RyMac) played pretty terrible last night, almost like he has no business playing at that level.
Tiger keeps it close to level par today, imo. Possibly just wishful thinking for the guy- but making the cut and making it through 4 rounds would be a pretty good outcome.
We are hosting a dinner party tonight- largely bc my wife wanted to use the dining room table and the nice plates. Not an all-out friendsgiving. Not one of those odd progressive editions where you have to relocate for each course- just a few folks gathering for a good meal of food and a bunch of wine and spirits. Playlist is developing- easily the most crucial part of the planning.
BBdk gchatted, yes, but he was talking to an empty computer screen. I would have responded if he would have just dialed me up on the cell phone, especially once I noticed how important the issue was.
wcc- are your fireplaces operational (wood burning, obviously)? If not then you basically just have an old tile border outlining a hole in your wall?
TopGolfing this weekend-- pretty excited about the outing, and to show off the stinger i've been working on.
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Remember when JT ripped off Janet Jackson's titty cover thing? I mean, what would happen today if some jive ass white boi forcefully ripped off some woman's clothing on the biggest stage in sports?
You follow the @cartbarnguys on IG Clark?
All that guy does is 'Snipe', it's actually pretty incredible. He has some YouTube instructional videos, but I can't do it.
All that guy does is 'Snipe', it's actually pretty incredible. He has some YouTube instructional videos, but I can't do it.
I've tried to learn that shot for a long ass time- but just wasnt ever able to be consistent with it. Certainly couldnt do a driver off the deck and keep the ball flight about 10-feet off the ground like that dude. From what I gather with that account- that dude likely resides at that golf course, sleeping in the barn next to all the old cart chargers probably.
Oh hey Max can you read? Clearly it says i'm anti progressive dinner.
Oh hey Max can you read? Clearly it says i'm anti progressive dinner.
I'll let you know what I end up learning, who from, what exact club/ball I use, where I get it, etc -- and you can just copy it straight up and make it yours.
Vecenie's first Top 100 Big Board:
Big Board procedural notes
1.Deandre Ayton, Arizona C 18 7-1 7-6
2 Luka Doncic, Real Madrid W 19 6-8 N/A
3 Marvin Bagley, Duke F/C 18 6-11 7-1
4 Trae Young, Oklahoma G 19 6-2 6-4
5 Michael Porter Jr., Missouri F 19 6-10 7-0
6 Jaren Jackson Jr., Michigan State F/C 18 6-10 7-4
7 Mohamed Bamba, Texas C 19 7-0 7-9
8 Collin Sexton, Alabama G 19 6-2 6-7
9 Mikal Bridges, Villanova W 21 6-7 7-2
10 Miles Bridges, Michigan State W/F 19 6-6 6-9
11 Wendell Carter, Duke C 18 6-10 7-3
12 Kevin Knox, Kentucky F 18 6-9 7-0
13 Troy Brown, Oregon W 18 6-7 6-11
14 Chandler Hutchison, Boise State W/F 21 6-7 7-0
15 Mitchell Robinson, N/A C 19 6-11 7-4
16 Daniel Gafford, Arkansas C 19 6-10 7-2
17 Shai Gilgeous-Alexande, Kentucky G 19 6-6 7-0
18 Shake Milton, SMU G 21 6-6 7-0
19 Robert Williams, Texas A&M F/C 20 6-10 7-5
20 Bruce Brown, Miami (Fla.) G 21 6-4 6-9
21 Keita Bates-Diop, Ohio State F 22 6-7 7-2
22 Anfernee Simons, IMG Academy G 18 6-4 6-7
23 Dzanan Musa, Cedevita W/F 18 6-9 6-9
24 Lonnie Walker, Miami (Fla.) G 19 6-4 6-10
25 Khyri Thomas, Creighton G 21 6-3 6-10
26 Killian Tillie, Gonzaga F/C 19 6-10 N/A
27 Trevon Duval, Duke G 19 6-3 6-9
28 Hamidou Diallo, Kentucky W 19 6-5 7-0
29 Landry Shamet, Wichita State G 20 6-4 N/A
30 De’Anthony Melton, USC G 19 6-3 6-8
31 Chimezie Metu, USC C 20 6-11 N/A
32 Brandon McCoy, UNLV C 19 7-0 7-1
33 Jalen Brunson, Villanova G 21 6-2 6-3
34 Rodions Kurucs, Barcelona F 19 6-10 N/A
35 Jarred Vanderbilt, Kentucky F 18 6-9 7-1
36 Jevon Carter, West Virginia G 22 6-2 6-3
37 Devonte' Graham, Kansas G 22 6-2 N/A
38 Rawle Alkins, Arizona W 20 6-5 6-9
39 Jacob Evans, Cincinnati W 20 6-6 N/A
40 Jontay Porter, Missouri C 18 6-10 7-0
41 Tyus Battle, Syracuse W 20 6-6 6-8
42 Grayson Allen, Duke G/W 22 6-4 6-7
43 Kris Wilkes, UCLA W 19 6-7 6-11
44 Jarrey Foster, SMU W/F 21 6-6 N/A
45 Aaron Holiday, UCLA G 21 6-1 6-6
46 Markus Howard, Marquette G 18 6-0 6-0
47 Jalen Hudson, Florida W 21 6-5 N/A
48 Melvin Frazier, Tulane W 21 6-6 N/A
49 Kevin Hervey, UT-Arlington F 21 6-9 7-2
50 Justin Jackson, Maryland F 21 6-7 7-3
51 Allonzo Trier, Arizona W 22 6-5 6-7
52 Isaac Bonga, Fraport G/F 18 6-9 N/A
53 Vince Edwards, Purdue F 22 6-8 7-0
54 Arnoldas Kulboka, Capo d’Orlando F 20 6-10 N/A
55 Terence Davis, Ole Miss G 20 6-4 N/A
56 Brian Bowen, South Carolina W 19 6-7 6-9
57 Jerome Robinson, Boston College G 20 6-5 N/A
58 Josh Okogie, Georgia Tech W 19 6-4 7-0
59 P.J. Washington, Kentucky F 19 6-8 7-3
60 Billy Preston, BC Igokea F 20 6-10 7-0
61 Alize Johnson, Missouri State F 21 6-9 N/A
62 Austin Wiley, Auburn C 19 6-11 7-5
63 Moritz Wagner, Michigan C 20 6-11 7-0
64 Bonzie Colson, Notre Dame F 22 6-5 7-0
65 Trevon Bluiett, Xavier W 23 6-6 N/A
66 Goga Bitadze, Mega C 18 6-11 N/A
67 Svi Mykhailiuk, Kansas W 20 6-8 6-7
68 Matisse Thybulle, Washington W 20 6-5 N/A
69 Kevin Huerter, Maryland W 19 6-7 N/A
70 Tony Carr, Penn State G 20 6-3 6-8
71 Caleb Martin, Nevada W 22 6-7 N/A
72 Yante Maten, Georgia F 21 6-8 N/A
73 Karim Jallow, Bayern Munich F 20 6-7 N/A
74 Juwan Morgan, Indiana F 20 6-7 N/A
75 Aric Holman, Mississippi State F/C 20 6-10 N/A
76 Amine Noua, ASVEL F 20 6-8 N/A
77 Tadas Sedekerskis, Nevizis F 20 6-9 N/A
78 Tryggvi Hlinason, Valencia C 20 7-1 N/A
79 Kenrich Williams, TCU F 23 6-7 N/A
80 Marko Simonovic, Siena C G 18 6-11 N/A
81 Lagerald Vick, Kansas W 21 6-5 N/A
82 Aleksa Radanov, FMP Beograd W 19 6-7 N/A
83 Dakota Mathias, Purdue G 22 6-4 N/A
84 Josh Reaves, Penn State G 20 6-4 N/A
85 Donte Grantham, Clemson F 22 6-8 N/A
86 Jock Landale, Saint Mary’s C 22 7-0 N/A
87 Ethan Happ, Wisconsin F/C 21 6-10 N/A
88 Johnathan Williams III, Gonzaga F 23 6-9 N/A
89 Gary Clark, Cincinnati F 23 6-8 N/A
90 Vasilis Charalampopoulos, PAOK F 21 6-9 N/A
91 Nick Weiler-Babb, Iowa State G/W 22 6-5 N/A
92 Vanja Marinkovic, Partizan W 21 6-6 N/A
93 Thomas Welsh, UCLA C 21 7-0 7-1
94 Kendrick Nunn, Oakland G 22 6-3 N/A
95 Borisa Simanic, FMP Beograd F 19 6-10 N/A
96 Jaylen Adams, St. Bonaventure G 21 6-2 N/A
97 Bryant Crawford, Wake Forest G 20 6-3 6-7
98 Charles Matthews, Michigan W 21 6-6 6-9
99 Reid Travis, Stanford F 22 6-8 7-0
100 Joel Berry, North Carolina G 22 6-0 6-3
(Top photo: Casey Sapio-USA TODAY Sports)
What did you think of this story
Big Board procedural notes
- For those unfamiliar with this board, its goal is to rank the top-100 prospects in the NBA Draft without taking fit into account. In a lot of ways, that’s a silly task, given that every team is looking for something different schematically or in terms of roster fit. Boston’s board will look different than Phoenix’s board, which will look different than Portland’s board, and it won’t even necessarily be because of a tangibly different evaluation in terms of big-picture skill level. So what this board tries to do is take the general direction of the NBA and slot in players I feel most comfortable with projecting to a role at the next level.
- Freshmen outside of the top-60 are not ranked right now for a couple of reasons. First, it’s rare for freshmen to declare for the draft when their names are outside of the top-60 prospects. Second, it’s out of a sense of — possibly misguidedly — responsibility not fill teenagers’ heads with thoughts of the NBA before they’re ready.
- I certainly get input and information from NBA executives, college coaches and other evaluators during the process of slotting players, but at the end of the day, this is my ranking.
- You’re likely to notice wings and forwards ranked higher, and project-y or non-athletic bigs ranked a bit lower. The margin for error when it comes to centers in the NBA shrinks every day, as the league continues to downsize and focus on adding athleticism and skill in space. From an economic perspective, the supply of 7-footers isn’t decreasing, but the demand for them is. So where is the demand going? Toward the wing and forward position, which is why you will see a premium placed on those players on this board.
1.Deandre Ayton, Arizona C 18 7-1 7-6
2 Luka Doncic, Real Madrid W 19 6-8 N/A
3 Marvin Bagley, Duke F/C 18 6-11 7-1
4 Trae Young, Oklahoma G 19 6-2 6-4
5 Michael Porter Jr., Missouri F 19 6-10 7-0
6 Jaren Jackson Jr., Michigan State F/C 18 6-10 7-4
7 Mohamed Bamba, Texas C 19 7-0 7-9
8 Collin Sexton, Alabama G 19 6-2 6-7
9 Mikal Bridges, Villanova W 21 6-7 7-2
10 Miles Bridges, Michigan State W/F 19 6-6 6-9
11 Wendell Carter, Duke C 18 6-10 7-3
12 Kevin Knox, Kentucky F 18 6-9 7-0
13 Troy Brown, Oregon W 18 6-7 6-11
14 Chandler Hutchison, Boise State W/F 21 6-7 7-0
15 Mitchell Robinson, N/A C 19 6-11 7-4
16 Daniel Gafford, Arkansas C 19 6-10 7-2
17 Shai Gilgeous-Alexande, Kentucky G 19 6-6 7-0
18 Shake Milton, SMU G 21 6-6 7-0
19 Robert Williams, Texas A&M F/C 20 6-10 7-5
20 Bruce Brown, Miami (Fla.) G 21 6-4 6-9
21 Keita Bates-Diop, Ohio State F 22 6-7 7-2
22 Anfernee Simons, IMG Academy G 18 6-4 6-7
23 Dzanan Musa, Cedevita W/F 18 6-9 6-9
24 Lonnie Walker, Miami (Fla.) G 19 6-4 6-10
25 Khyri Thomas, Creighton G 21 6-3 6-10
26 Killian Tillie, Gonzaga F/C 19 6-10 N/A
27 Trevon Duval, Duke G 19 6-3 6-9
28 Hamidou Diallo, Kentucky W 19 6-5 7-0
29 Landry Shamet, Wichita State G 20 6-4 N/A
30 De’Anthony Melton, USC G 19 6-3 6-8
31 Chimezie Metu, USC C 20 6-11 N/A
32 Brandon McCoy, UNLV C 19 7-0 7-1
33 Jalen Brunson, Villanova G 21 6-2 6-3
34 Rodions Kurucs, Barcelona F 19 6-10 N/A
35 Jarred Vanderbilt, Kentucky F 18 6-9 7-1
36 Jevon Carter, West Virginia G 22 6-2 6-3
37 Devonte' Graham, Kansas G 22 6-2 N/A
38 Rawle Alkins, Arizona W 20 6-5 6-9
39 Jacob Evans, Cincinnati W 20 6-6 N/A
40 Jontay Porter, Missouri C 18 6-10 7-0
41 Tyus Battle, Syracuse W 20 6-6 6-8
42 Grayson Allen, Duke G/W 22 6-4 6-7
43 Kris Wilkes, UCLA W 19 6-7 6-11
44 Jarrey Foster, SMU W/F 21 6-6 N/A
45 Aaron Holiday, UCLA G 21 6-1 6-6
46 Markus Howard, Marquette G 18 6-0 6-0
47 Jalen Hudson, Florida W 21 6-5 N/A
48 Melvin Frazier, Tulane W 21 6-6 N/A
49 Kevin Hervey, UT-Arlington F 21 6-9 7-2
50 Justin Jackson, Maryland F 21 6-7 7-3
51 Allonzo Trier, Arizona W 22 6-5 6-7
52 Isaac Bonga, Fraport G/F 18 6-9 N/A
53 Vince Edwards, Purdue F 22 6-8 7-0
54 Arnoldas Kulboka, Capo d’Orlando F 20 6-10 N/A
55 Terence Davis, Ole Miss G 20 6-4 N/A
56 Brian Bowen, South Carolina W 19 6-7 6-9
57 Jerome Robinson, Boston College G 20 6-5 N/A
58 Josh Okogie, Georgia Tech W 19 6-4 7-0
59 P.J. Washington, Kentucky F 19 6-8 7-3
60 Billy Preston, BC Igokea F 20 6-10 7-0
61 Alize Johnson, Missouri State F 21 6-9 N/A
62 Austin Wiley, Auburn C 19 6-11 7-5
63 Moritz Wagner, Michigan C 20 6-11 7-0
64 Bonzie Colson, Notre Dame F 22 6-5 7-0
65 Trevon Bluiett, Xavier W 23 6-6 N/A
66 Goga Bitadze, Mega C 18 6-11 N/A
67 Svi Mykhailiuk, Kansas W 20 6-8 6-7
68 Matisse Thybulle, Washington W 20 6-5 N/A
69 Kevin Huerter, Maryland W 19 6-7 N/A
70 Tony Carr, Penn State G 20 6-3 6-8
71 Caleb Martin, Nevada W 22 6-7 N/A
72 Yante Maten, Georgia F 21 6-8 N/A
73 Karim Jallow, Bayern Munich F 20 6-7 N/A
74 Juwan Morgan, Indiana F 20 6-7 N/A
75 Aric Holman, Mississippi State F/C 20 6-10 N/A
76 Amine Noua, ASVEL F 20 6-8 N/A
77 Tadas Sedekerskis, Nevizis F 20 6-9 N/A
78 Tryggvi Hlinason, Valencia C 20 7-1 N/A
79 Kenrich Williams, TCU F 23 6-7 N/A
80 Marko Simonovic, Siena C G 18 6-11 N/A
81 Lagerald Vick, Kansas W 21 6-5 N/A
82 Aleksa Radanov, FMP Beograd W 19 6-7 N/A
83 Dakota Mathias, Purdue G 22 6-4 N/A
84 Josh Reaves, Penn State G 20 6-4 N/A
85 Donte Grantham, Clemson F 22 6-8 N/A
86 Jock Landale, Saint Mary’s C 22 7-0 N/A
87 Ethan Happ, Wisconsin F/C 21 6-10 N/A
88 Johnathan Williams III, Gonzaga F 23 6-9 N/A
89 Gary Clark, Cincinnati F 23 6-8 N/A
90 Vasilis Charalampopoulos, PAOK F 21 6-9 N/A
91 Nick Weiler-Babb, Iowa State G/W 22 6-5 N/A
92 Vanja Marinkovic, Partizan W 21 6-6 N/A
93 Thomas Welsh, UCLA C 21 7-0 7-1
94 Kendrick Nunn, Oakland G 22 6-3 N/A
95 Borisa Simanic, FMP Beograd F 19 6-10 N/A
96 Jaylen Adams, St. Bonaventure G 21 6-2 N/A
97 Bryant Crawford, Wake Forest G 20 6-3 6-7
98 Charles Matthews, Michigan W 21 6-6 6-9
99 Reid Travis, Stanford F 22 6-8 7-0
100 Joel Berry, North Carolina G 22 6-0 6-3
(Top photo: Casey Sapio-USA TODAY Sports)
What did you think of this story
Vecenie's first Top 100 Big Board:
Big Board procedural notes
1.Deandre Ayton, Arizona C 18 7-1 7-6
2 Luka Doncic, Real Madrid W 19 6-8 N/A
3 Marvin Bagley, Duke F/C 18 6-11 7-1
4 Trae Young, Oklahoma G 19 6-2 6-4
5 Michael Porter Jr., Missouri F 19 6-10 7-0
6 Jaren Jackson Jr., Michigan State F/C 18 6-10 7-4
7 Mohamed Bamba, Texas C 19 7-0 7-9
8 Collin Sexton, Alabama G 19 6-2 6-7
9 Mikal Bridges, Villanova W 21 6-7 7-2
10 Miles Bridges, Michigan State W/F 19 6-6 6-9
11 Wendell Carter, Duke C 18 6-10 7-3
12 Kevin Knox, Kentucky F 18 6-9 7-0
13 Troy Brown, Oregon W 18 6-7 6-11
14 Chandler Hutchison, Boise State W/F 21 6-7 7-0
15 Mitchell Robinson, N/A C 19 6-11 7-4
16 Daniel Gafford, Arkansas C 19 6-10 7-2
17 Shai Gilgeous-Alexande, Kentucky G 19 6-6 7-0
18 Shake Milton, SMU G 21 6-6 7-0
19 Robert Williams, Texas A&M F/C 20 6-10 7-5
20 Bruce Brown, Miami (Fla.) G 21 6-4 6-9
21 Keita Bates-Diop, Ohio State F 22 6-7 7-2
22 Anfernee Simons, IMG Academy G 18 6-4 6-7
23 Dzanan Musa, Cedevita W/F 18 6-9 6-9
24 Lonnie Walker, Miami (Fla.) G 19 6-4 6-10
25 Khyri Thomas, Creighton G 21 6-3 6-10
26 Killian Tillie, Gonzaga F/C 19 6-10 N/A
27 Trevon Duval, Duke G 19 6-3 6-9
28 Hamidou Diallo, Kentucky W 19 6-5 7-0
29 Landry Shamet, Wichita State G 20 6-4 N/A
30 De’Anthony Melton, USC G 19 6-3 6-8
31 Chimezie Metu, USC C 20 6-11 N/A
32 Brandon McCoy, UNLV C 19 7-0 7-1
33 Jalen Brunson, Villanova G 21 6-2 6-3
34 Rodions Kurucs, Barcelona F 19 6-10 N/A
35 Jarred Vanderbilt, Kentucky F 18 6-9 7-1
36 Jevon Carter, West Virginia G 22 6-2 6-3
37 Devonte' Graham, Kansas G 22 6-2 N/A
38 Rawle Alkins, Arizona W 20 6-5 6-9
39 Jacob Evans, Cincinnati W 20 6-6 N/A
40 Jontay Porter, Missouri C 18 6-10 7-0
41 Tyus Battle, Syracuse W 20 6-6 6-8
42 Grayson Allen, Duke G/W 22 6-4 6-7
43 Kris Wilkes, UCLA W 19 6-7 6-11
44 Jarrey Foster, SMU W/F 21 6-6 N/A
45 Aaron Holiday, UCLA G 21 6-1 6-6
46 Markus Howard, Marquette G 18 6-0 6-0
47 Jalen Hudson, Florida W 21 6-5 N/A
48 Melvin Frazier, Tulane W 21 6-6 N/A
49 Kevin Hervey, UT-Arlington F 21 6-9 7-2
50 Justin Jackson, Maryland F 21 6-7 7-3
51 Allonzo Trier, Arizona W 22 6-5 6-7
52 Isaac Bonga, Fraport G/F 18 6-9 N/A
53 Vince Edwards, Purdue F 22 6-8 7-0
54 Arnoldas Kulboka, Capo d’Orlando F 20 6-10 N/A
55 Terence Davis, Ole Miss G 20 6-4 N/A
56 Brian Bowen, South Carolina W 19 6-7 6-9
57 Jerome Robinson, Boston College G 20 6-5 N/A
58 Josh Okogie, Georgia Tech W 19 6-4 7-0
59 P.J. Washington, Kentucky F 19 6-8 7-3
60 Billy Preston, BC Igokea F 20 6-10 7-0
61 Alize Johnson, Missouri State F 21 6-9 N/A
62 Austin Wiley, Auburn C 19 6-11 7-5
63 Moritz Wagner, Michigan C 20 6-11 7-0
64 Bonzie Colson, Notre Dame F 22 6-5 7-0
65 Trevon Bluiett, Xavier W 23 6-6 N/A
66 Goga Bitadze, Mega C 18 6-11 N/A
67 Svi Mykhailiuk, Kansas W 20 6-8 6-7
68 Matisse Thybulle, Washington W 20 6-5 N/A
69 Kevin Huerter, Maryland W 19 6-7 N/A
70 Tony Carr, Penn State G 20 6-3 6-8
71 Caleb Martin, Nevada W 22 6-7 N/A
72 Yante Maten, Georgia F 21 6-8 N/A
73 Karim Jallow, Bayern Munich F 20 6-7 N/A
74 Juwan Morgan, Indiana F 20 6-7 N/A
75 Aric Holman, Mississippi State F/C 20 6-10 N/A
76 Amine Noua, ASVEL F 20 6-8 N/A
77 Tadas Sedekerskis, Nevizis F 20 6-9 N/A
78 Tryggvi Hlinason, Valencia C 20 7-1 N/A
79 Kenrich Williams, TCU F 23 6-7 N/A
80 Marko Simonovic, Siena C G 18 6-11 N/A
81 Lagerald Vick, Kansas W 21 6-5 N/A
82 Aleksa Radanov, FMP Beograd W 19 6-7 N/A
83 Dakota Mathias, Purdue G 22 6-4 N/A
84 Josh Reaves, Penn State G 20 6-4 N/A
85 Donte Grantham, Clemson F 22 6-8 N/A
86 Jock Landale, Saint Mary’s C 22 7-0 N/A
87 Ethan Happ, Wisconsin F/C 21 6-10 N/A
88 Johnathan Williams III, Gonzaga F 23 6-9 N/A
89 Gary Clark, Cincinnati F 23 6-8 N/A
90 Vasilis Charalampopoulos, PAOK F 21 6-9 N/A
91 Nick Weiler-Babb, Iowa State G/W 22 6-5 N/A
92 Vanja Marinkovic, Partizan W 21 6-6 N/A
93 Thomas Welsh, UCLA C 21 7-0 7-1
94 Kendrick Nunn, Oakland G 22 6-3 N/A
95 Borisa Simanic, FMP Beograd F 19 6-10 N/A
96 Jaylen Adams, St. Bonaventure G 21 6-2 N/A
97 Bryant Crawford, Wake Forest G 20 6-3 6-7
98 Charles Matthews, Michigan W 21 6-6 6-9
99 Reid Travis, Stanford F 22 6-8 7-0
100 Joel Berry, North Carolina G 22 6-0 6-3
(Top photo: Casey Sapio-USA TODAY Sports)
What did you think of this story
Big Board procedural notes
- For those unfamiliar with this board, its goal is to rank the top-100 prospects in the NBA Draft without taking fit into account. In a lot of ways, that’s a silly task, given that every team is looking for something different schematically or in terms of roster fit. Boston’s board will look different than Phoenix’s board, which will look different than Portland’s board, and it won’t even necessarily be because of a tangibly different evaluation in terms of big-picture skill level. So what this board tries to do is take the general direction of the NBA and slot in players I feel most comfortable with projecting to a role at the next level.
- Freshmen outside of the top-60 are not ranked right now for a couple of reasons. First, it’s rare for freshmen to declare for the draft when their names are outside of the top-60 prospects. Second, it’s out of a sense of — possibly misguidedly — responsibility not fill teenagers’ heads with thoughts of the NBA before they’re ready.
- I certainly get input and information from NBA executives, college coaches and other evaluators during the process of slotting players, but at the end of the day, this is my ranking.
- You’re likely to notice wings and forwards ranked higher, and project-y or non-athletic bigs ranked a bit lower. The margin for error when it comes to centers in the NBA shrinks every day, as the league continues to downsize and focus on adding athleticism and skill in space. From an economic perspective, the supply of 7-footers isn’t decreasing, but the demand for them is. So where is the demand going? Toward the wing and forward position, which is why you will see a premium placed on those players on this board.
1.Deandre Ayton, Arizona C 18 7-1 7-6
2 Luka Doncic, Real Madrid W 19 6-8 N/A
3 Marvin Bagley, Duke F/C 18 6-11 7-1
4 Trae Young, Oklahoma G 19 6-2 6-4
5 Michael Porter Jr., Missouri F 19 6-10 7-0
6 Jaren Jackson Jr., Michigan State F/C 18 6-10 7-4
7 Mohamed Bamba, Texas C 19 7-0 7-9
8 Collin Sexton, Alabama G 19 6-2 6-7
9 Mikal Bridges, Villanova W 21 6-7 7-2
10 Miles Bridges, Michigan State W/F 19 6-6 6-9
11 Wendell Carter, Duke C 18 6-10 7-3
12 Kevin Knox, Kentucky F 18 6-9 7-0
13 Troy Brown, Oregon W 18 6-7 6-11
14 Chandler Hutchison, Boise State W/F 21 6-7 7-0
15 Mitchell Robinson, N/A C 19 6-11 7-4
16 Daniel Gafford, Arkansas C 19 6-10 7-2
17 Shai Gilgeous-Alexande, Kentucky G 19 6-6 7-0
18 Shake Milton, SMU G 21 6-6 7-0
19 Robert Williams, Texas A&M F/C 20 6-10 7-5
20 Bruce Brown, Miami (Fla.) G 21 6-4 6-9
21 Keita Bates-Diop, Ohio State F 22 6-7 7-2
22 Anfernee Simons, IMG Academy G 18 6-4 6-7
23 Dzanan Musa, Cedevita W/F 18 6-9 6-9
24 Lonnie Walker, Miami (Fla.) G 19 6-4 6-10
25 Khyri Thomas, Creighton G 21 6-3 6-10
26 Killian Tillie, Gonzaga F/C 19 6-10 N/A
27 Trevon Duval, Duke G 19 6-3 6-9
28 Hamidou Diallo, Kentucky W 19 6-5 7-0
29 Landry Shamet, Wichita State G 20 6-4 N/A
30 De’Anthony Melton, USC G 19 6-3 6-8
31 Chimezie Metu, USC C 20 6-11 N/A
32 Brandon McCoy, UNLV C 19 7-0 7-1
33 Jalen Brunson, Villanova G 21 6-2 6-3
34 Rodions Kurucs, Barcelona F 19 6-10 N/A
35 Jarred Vanderbilt, Kentucky F 18 6-9 7-1
36 Jevon Carter, West Virginia G 22 6-2 6-3
37 Devonte' Graham, Kansas G 22 6-2 N/A
38 Rawle Alkins, Arizona W 20 6-5 6-9
39 Jacob Evans, Cincinnati W 20 6-6 N/A
40 Jontay Porter, Missouri C 18 6-10 7-0
41 Tyus Battle, Syracuse W 20 6-6 6-8
42 Grayson Allen, Duke G/W 22 6-4 6-7
43 Kris Wilkes, UCLA W 19 6-7 6-11
44 Jarrey Foster, SMU W/F 21 6-6 N/A
45 Aaron Holiday, UCLA G 21 6-1 6-6
46 Markus Howard, Marquette G 18 6-0 6-0
47 Jalen Hudson, Florida W 21 6-5 N/A
48 Melvin Frazier, Tulane W 21 6-6 N/A
49 Kevin Hervey, UT-Arlington F 21 6-9 7-2
50 Justin Jackson, Maryland F 21 6-7 7-3
51 Allonzo Trier, Arizona W 22 6-5 6-7
52 Isaac Bonga, Fraport G/F 18 6-9 N/A
53 Vince Edwards, Purdue F 22 6-8 7-0
54 Arnoldas Kulboka, Capo d’Orlando F 20 6-10 N/A
55 Terence Davis, Ole Miss G 20 6-4 N/A
56 Brian Bowen, South Carolina W 19 6-7 6-9
57 Jerome Robinson, Boston College G 20 6-5 N/A
58 Josh Okogie, Georgia Tech W 19 6-4 7-0
59 P.J. Washington, Kentucky F 19 6-8 7-3
60 Billy Preston, BC Igokea F 20 6-10 7-0
61 Alize Johnson, Missouri State F 21 6-9 N/A
62 Austin Wiley, Auburn C 19 6-11 7-5
63 Moritz Wagner, Michigan C 20 6-11 7-0
64 Bonzie Colson, Notre Dame F 22 6-5 7-0
65 Trevon Bluiett, Xavier W 23 6-6 N/A
66 Goga Bitadze, Mega C 18 6-11 N/A
67 Svi Mykhailiuk, Kansas W 20 6-8 6-7
68 Matisse Thybulle, Washington W 20 6-5 N/A
69 Kevin Huerter, Maryland W 19 6-7 N/A
70 Tony Carr, Penn State G 20 6-3 6-8
71 Caleb Martin, Nevada W 22 6-7 N/A
72 Yante Maten, Georgia F 21 6-8 N/A
73 Karim Jallow, Bayern Munich F 20 6-7 N/A
74 Juwan Morgan, Indiana F 20 6-7 N/A
75 Aric Holman, Mississippi State F/C 20 6-10 N/A
76 Amine Noua, ASVEL F 20 6-8 N/A
77 Tadas Sedekerskis, Nevizis F 20 6-9 N/A
78 Tryggvi Hlinason, Valencia C 20 7-1 N/A
79 Kenrich Williams, TCU F 23 6-7 N/A
80 Marko Simonovic, Siena C G 18 6-11 N/A
81 Lagerald Vick, Kansas W 21 6-5 N/A
82 Aleksa Radanov, FMP Beograd W 19 6-7 N/A
83 Dakota Mathias, Purdue G 22 6-4 N/A
84 Josh Reaves, Penn State G 20 6-4 N/A
85 Donte Grantham, Clemson F 22 6-8 N/A
86 Jock Landale, Saint Mary’s C 22 7-0 N/A
87 Ethan Happ, Wisconsin F/C 21 6-10 N/A
88 Johnathan Williams III, Gonzaga F 23 6-9 N/A
89 Gary Clark, Cincinnati F 23 6-8 N/A
90 Vasilis Charalampopoulos, PAOK F 21 6-9 N/A
91 Nick Weiler-Babb, Iowa State G/W 22 6-5 N/A
92 Vanja Marinkovic, Partizan W 21 6-6 N/A
93 Thomas Welsh, UCLA C 21 7-0 7-1
94 Kendrick Nunn, Oakland G 22 6-3 N/A
95 Borisa Simanic, FMP Beograd F 19 6-10 N/A
96 Jaylen Adams, St. Bonaventure G 21 6-2 N/A
97 Bryant Crawford, Wake Forest G 20 6-3 6-7
98 Charles Matthews, Michigan W 21 6-6 6-9
99 Reid Travis, Stanford F 22 6-8 7-0
100 Joel Berry, North Carolina G 22 6-0 6-3
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It's hard as hell to hit it like Tiger does. Most people just shove it way back in their stance and hit down on it with less loft, but that steep of an angle puts a lot of spin on it and basically defeats the purpose of hitting that shot. It's not going to have that cool, boring trajectory. The idea is to deloft the club significantly while still having a shallow path through the ball. That gets it launching low with lower spin.
-Ball in the middle of your stance
-Shorten backswing slightly.
-Focus on bowing the left wrist as much as you can on the way down (think DJ's wrist at the top of his swing) and rotating your body aggressively through impact. The bowing of the wrist closes the face and the aggressive rotation of your body squares the face back up, keeps the swing plane shallow, and get the club leaning forward at impact.
-Swing through to a full finish to ensure you hips and body rotate enough...don't cut the swing off. It's not a punch shot.
It's fun to play with on the range, but I don't have anywhere near the confidence to hit it in a round that matters. There's a reason why Tiger, in his prime, was the only guy hitting it in competition.
-Ball in the middle of your stance
-Shorten backswing slightly.
-Focus on bowing the left wrist as much as you can on the way down (think DJ's wrist at the top of his swing) and rotating your body aggressively through impact. The bowing of the wrist closes the face and the aggressive rotation of your body squares the face back up, keeps the swing plane shallow, and get the club leaning forward at impact.
-Swing through to a full finish to ensure you hips and body rotate enough...don't cut the swing off. It's not a punch shot.
It's fun to play with on the range, but I don't have anywhere near the confidence to hit it in a round that matters. There's a reason why Tiger, in his prime, was the only guy hitting it in competition.
^and who knows, gang- maybe you just might have a little fun and impress your buddies at the club!
-Ollie Schniederjans #protraj ftw 
-Stu Jamison.
Do you see Diallo eventually falling out of the 1st Rd?
Well aware of his athleticism and the fact that will be easier to display in the NBA, but he shows very little NBA skill other than being able to run fast and jump high.
Also curious if you (or anyone) notices that he only jumps off 2 feet, which often times negates his speed allowing defenders to catch up in transition...and also causes him to nearly break his ankle every other game when stopping to plant his 2 feet.
Sam V.
STAFF
The two-foot leaping is absolutely a concern. He doesn't apply his athleticism well enough to the floor given what his potential there is.
I wrote about him more in-depth last week here, though. Think it's a distinct possibility he falls out of Round 1, but it helps him that he plays a premium position that every NBA team needs right now
Thankfully I'm still around to talk some hoops & sports around here w/ Chad (Alex) & Geese (Jason) on their respective leashes.
-Stu Jamison.
Do you see Diallo eventually falling out of the 1st Rd?
Well aware of his athleticism and the fact that will be easier to display in the NBA, but he shows very little NBA skill other than being able to run fast and jump high.
Also curious if you (or anyone) notices that he only jumps off 2 feet, which often times negates his speed allowing defenders to catch up in transition...and also causes him to nearly break his ankle every other game when stopping to plant his 2 feet.
Sam V.
STAFF
The two-foot leaping is absolutely a concern. He doesn't apply his athleticism well enough to the floor given what his potential there is.
I wrote about him more in-depth last week here, though. Think it's a distinct possibility he falls out of Round 1, but it helps him that he plays a premium position that every NBA team needs right now
Thankfully I'm still around to talk some hoops & sports around here w/ Chad (Alex) & Geese (Jason) on their respective leashes.
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Yeah it's definitely your ball flight, it has nothing to do with the fact you're a hack.
Some day, Wodie, you’ll grow up like SAE and me, and realize sports just aren’t very important. I prefer a good crossword puzzle to a college ballgame now. My perspective has really improved my wellness and balance.
I mean if you are SGA and you are projected 17 you have to go right? I'd kill for him as a sophomore at UK tho.
Reid Travis at Stanford not developing a lukewarm consistent outside shot is
UKO, hopefully, if you are really serious about this.
I think (hope) SGA will fall a bit as well as the season progresses.
He's our best player, but far from our best prospect. That stretchy length he uses to sneak his way to the rim doesn't fly against against more athletic players, and that's pretty much all he has at the moment.
I think he'll be a solid reserve eventually at the next level, but they don't draft Top 20 on that. That's what I'm telling myself at least.
He's our best player, but far from our best prospect. That stretchy length he uses to sneak his way to the rim doesn't fly against against more athletic players, and that's pretty much all he has at the moment.
I think he'll be a solid reserve eventually at the next level, but they don't draft Top 20 on that. That's what I'm telling myself at least.
You really need to stick to admiring yourself, because your sports ignorance knows no bounds. Thome was just a big old strong guy who knew how to hit for power. And I guess Jr was juicing too....
The look of a roid'er...
Do *we* look like roiders??
Rafael Betancourt
Edinson Volquez
Bartolo Colon
Dee Gordon
Yusaka Iriki
Eliezer Alfonzo
Chris Colabello
link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...rugs#Players_who_were_on_major_league_rosters
PS -- your an idiot.
UKO keeps a constant tan on his face from years of being smacked around on here. A glutton for punishment that guy is.
What do I think of the Big Board, Chase?
I think we’ll be flat out LOADED next year.![[smoke]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/smokin.r191677.gif "Cool [smoke]")
I think (hope) SGA will fall a bit as well as the season progresses.
He's our best player, but far from our best prospect. That stretchy length he uses to sneak his way to the rim doesn't fly against against more athletic players, and that's pretty much all he has at the moment.
I think he'll be a solid reserve eventually at the next level, but they don't draft Top 20 on that. That's what I'm telling myself at least.
@PTI (pti) Exactly the point I made. He’s an idiot if he thinks there’s a “look” to steroids. Just an poorly-read, ill-informed oaf.
Chase- I agree and I worry that since SGA already does all that there’s no big tweak out there to hang a hat on
If getting smacked around in GYERO causes tanning then catfagbg must be my twin. TS.
Although part of what makes Shai such a high % shooter is the fact he mostly only takes "perfect" 3 point attempts, I wish he'd hunt his shot a little more out there. He's got a slow release, but it's damn near flawless -- which is why he's such a good FT shooter as well.
He's shooting 48% from 3 this year, and if you take away his shot clock forced/end of game heaves, he'd probably be closer to 60% on his limited attempts.
What the hell were you trying to do here, boss?
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