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Money over legacy for the younger guys. That is the choice they made accepting guaranteed money over earning it.
Less chances to make majors means less chances to enhance legacy.
The ones who have already won majors were sitting pretty for awhile but time is running out for some.
Good finishes have aided some but it will get harder to qualify for most without putting a lot of effort, meaning more golf, than a lot are willing to give.
 
Tskware said:
Another thought about LIV golfers:

Hasn't been discussed much that I have seen, but it seems that the guys that have been hurt most by the move to LIV are the younger guys like Niemann and Pereira. Niemann is still not 30, and was considered a rising young star on the PGA (already had two wins). But since his move to LIV, his only top 20 finish in majors was T8 in this year's PGA, and has missed several cuts, basically been a non factor in majors. Pereira finished 3 at 2022 PGA, but T18 best since then, and has not even made the field in any major last two seasons. At least Carlos Ortiz went through the qualification process to earn his way into the US Open.

Case could be made that the young guys like the above 2 would have developed into a lot better players had they played tougher courses, e.g., Torrey Pines, Pebble, Harbour Town, Memorial, et al, and regularly against large talented fields, with a cut. Instead, they are playing easier courses, in small no cut fields, that are laughably weak except for the top 6 or 7 great players. I assume they got a lot of money (though I bet nothing like Koepka, Rahm, et al), but in the long run, I wonder if they will wonder what might have been?
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I honestly think the "laid back" tour is more to blame. When a lot of your money is upfront, I feel it takes a little of the drive out of you. The LIV Tour is just too "casual" for great players to advance their game.
 
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The tour has got to change the rule and get rid of that damn aim point crap on the greens. It has proven to be ineffective and just slows down play. Please take the step and get rid of it.,
 
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We're gonna need to talk about Rickie Fowler.
Currently, he is at 7, I believe, all a Signature event or major, PGA.
320 points of his 485 have come from sponsor exemptions into signature events.
This places him 69th on points list.
1 Top 10.
 
Cantlay- Has he played well enough this year? Some top 10's but a couple of MC's at similar courses, yet some good finishes at similar courses. He's a conundrum.
Burns- Keep him away from Scottie. Pair him with someone else.
English- His US Open record should translate well to this course.
Koepka- Tough to leave off with his past success.
 
CAT Scratch FVR said:
Cantlay- Has he played well enough this year? Some top 10's but a couple of MC's at similar courses, yet some good finishes at similar courses. He's a conundrum.
Burns- Keep him away from Scottie. Pair him with someone else.
English- His US Open record should translate well to this course.
Koepka- Tough to leave off with his past success.
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Cantlay would be my last guy right now and i could see others being taken with zero issues and of course we have plenty of meaningful golf left for guys to make a case.
 
CAT Scratch FVR said:
We're gonna need to talk about Rickie Fowler.
Currently, he is at 7, I believe, all a Signature event or major, PGA.
320 points of his 485 have come from sponsor exemptions into signature events.
This places him 69th on points list.
1 Top 10.
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Not sure what you are trying to say here. Fowler is #44 on Ryder Cup points and has the same chance as I do of being picked by Bradley.

But I agree he has been the Golden Boy when it comes to sponsor exemptions, enough is enough.

PS: Bradley should pick himself. I would also give some thought to Cameron Young and Tony Finau as well, they are big hitters which would help greatly at Bethpage.
 
My point:
He would not even be in the top 100 had he not gotten exemptions and free points in the Signature events. How long should he be rewarded for what he did 10 years ago.?
 
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Not that long ago it looked like this generation of US Ryder Cup teams would be historically strong. Now there seems to be a lot of question marks.
 
Tskware said:
Not sure what you are trying to say here. Fowler is #44 on Ryder Cup points and has the same chance as I do of being picked by Bradley.

But I agree he has been the Golden Boy when it comes to sponsor exemptions, enough is enough.

PS: Bradley should pick himself. I would also give some thought to Cameron Young and Tony Finau as well, they are big hitters which would help greatly at Bethpage.
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Finau is playing awful. Not sure he won’t be the next LIV departure. I agree with you on Young. Playing well lately.
 
Ignorant comment, per usual. Especially from someone who can't break 90 after 40 years of consistently playing.

1.) You must qualify
2.) The 70% you speak of is filled with great players, former winners/contenders, etc. Nick Johnston, winner, is currently at+12 as one example...
 
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