I thought it was a clean block myself. Agree or disagree ? Sorry if this has been talked about but did not see any post on it.
They do, but the issue is the camera isn't directly above the basket. It's set back a bit so it can look like the ball is completely outside the cylinder while still being partly over it. My guess is due to this, they stood with the call on the court because they couldn't tell 100% if the ball was a little in the cylinder or not.I’m shocked they botched that. Did they not have the overhead angle to see?
That’s what I assumed. If only they saw the view we saw at home it wouldn’t be a questionThey do, but the issue is the camera isn't directly above the basket. It's set back a bit so it can look like the ball is completely outside the cylinder while still being partly over it. My guess is due to this, they stood with the call on the court because they couldn't tell 100% if the ball was a little in the cylinder or not.
OglesbyI’m shocked they botched that. Did they not have the overhead angle to see?
The view we saw at home is what I'm talking about. That camera isn't directly above the hoop, so it's not 100% accurate. It's set back up on the backboard, so due to the angle a ball can look outside the cylinder from that angle, but a truly overhead view would show it inside.That’s what I assumed. If only they saw the view we saw at home it wouldn’t be a question
If they saw that and still couldn’t decide then they need their eyes checked.The view we saw at home is what I'm talking about. That camera isn't directly above the hoop, so it's not 100% accurate. It's set back up on the backboard, so due to the angle a ball can look outside the cylinder from that angle, but a truly overhead view would show it inside.
At Tennessee!I thought it was a clean block myself. Agree or disagree ? Sorry if this has been talked about but did not see any post on it.
live, no one noticed it. after the goaltending however, they went straight to the monitor. there’s really no excuse to miss the call when the whole cbs crew said it was a block no matter how you interpret a possible goaltending.I think it was a make up call for Reeves stepping out of bounds.
That's the way I saw it.I think it was a make up call for Reeves stepping out of bounds.
My wife and I both noticed Reeve stepping out. We have enough calls go against us, I'll gladly take the refs missing one.live, no one noticed it. after the goaltending however, they went straight to the monitor. there’s really no excuse to miss the call when the whole cbs crew said it was a block no matter how you interpret a possible goaltending.
Except for the 3 blind mice in stripes, everybody in that building today knew that was a block, every announcer knew it was a block, the director of officials (gene chizik?) knew it was a clean block. Never seen so many reviews be missed as what we've seen this season.I thought it was a clean block myself. Agree or disagree ? Sorry if this has been talked about but did not see any post on it.
Absolutely was a clean block! Not even close! Exactly 0% of the ball was as above the cylinder! ZERO!I thought it was a clean block myself. Agree or disagree ? Sorry if this has been talked about but did not see any post on it.
They gave a make up call on that. Goaltend was just bullshit.Clean block. Had to be a makeup call for them missing reeves stepping out of bounds on his drive to the basket a few plays earlier
ThisClean block. Had to be a makeup call for them missing reeves stepping out of bounds on his drive to the basket a few plays earlier
Absolutely was a clean block! Not even close! Exactly 0% of the ball was as above the cylinder! ZERO!
Looked good to me from both angles but the game was at UT.I thought it was a clean block myself. Agree or disagree ? Sorry if this has been talked about but did not see any post on it.
But that's also the problem, they automatically call anything close a goal tend bc its a review able call and can look at the monitor, so the indisputable evidence reasoning shouldn't work as they are calling everything one to begin with so they can look at it.They do, but the issue is the camera isn't directly above the basket. It's set back a bit so it can look like the ball is completely outside the cylinder while still being partly over it. My guess is due to this, they stood with the call on the court because they couldn't tell 100% if the ball was a little in the cylinder or not.
Nope. Was on the way up.I had the sound off and just saw the replay so I have question: Was the ball perhaps on the way down? It was clearly not in the cylinder but wouldn't it be goal tending if the ball were on the way down. In one angle of the replay, it appeared it might be going down. I'm just not sure.
If they couldn’t they need to find another profession.They do, but the issue is the camera isn't directly above the basket. It's set back a bit so it can look like the ball is completely outside the cylinder while still being partly over it. My guess is due to this, they stood with the call on the court because they couldn't tell 100% if the ball was a little in the cylinder or not.
Reeves was fouled on that play regardless.Clean block. Had to be a makeup call for them missing reeves stepping out of bounds on his drive to the basket a few plays earlier
I thought it was clean.I thought it was a clean block myself. Agree or disagree ? Sorry if this has been talked about but did not see any post on it.
If they saw that and still couldn’t decide then they need their eyes checked.
I don't think you guys are understanding what I'm trying to say. The overhead camera angle is not a 100% overhead shot. It's a little behind the basket, so it's almost like an optical illusion when the ball looks 100% off the cylinder. The best comparison I can draw is this tweet, which was about a World Cup goal that review called good even though a certain camera angle looked like the ball was 100% out of bounds. If the camera is a little in front of the ball, it doesn't provide a true depiction of where the ball is.If they couldn’t they need to find another profession.
Yes. Fouled before he stepped out by knecht.Reeves was fouled on that play regardless.
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I understand. But geometry be damned, it looked clean. Insttead of listening to what their eyes were telling them they went with the assumption route. They botched the callI don't think you guys are understanding what I'm trying to say. The overhead camera angle is not a 100% overhead shot. It's a little behind the basket, so it's almost like an optical illusion when the ball looks 100% off the cylinder. The best comparison I can draw is this tweet, which was about a World Cup goal that review called good even though a certain camera angle looked like the ball was 100% out of bounds. If the camera is a little in front of the ball, it doesn't provide a true depiction of where the ball is.
At about 3 seconds in this video is a good depiction of where the overhead camera is, and it would look like the ball is completely on the other side of that line. But if you bring the camera 100% above the ball you can tell it's still over the line. This is the same thing that happens with over the basket cameras, they are not 100% accurate.