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Global Climate Changes

Climate will stop changing if you just vote for the right candidate.
I must say that I do not think that, despite the best attempts by politicians, world leaders and concerned citizens, the effects of climate change will be slowed enough to make a lasting and effective difference. The most dramatic and damaging effects will not be realized until the vast majority of us on this board are no longer around.
For the sake of mankind and the planet, I sincerely hope I am wrong, of course.
 
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I must say that I do not think that, despite the best attempts by politicians, world leaders and concerned citizens, the effects of climate change will be slowed enough to make a lasting and effective difference. The most dramatic and damaging effects will not be realized until the vast majority of us on this board are no longer around.
For the sake of mankind and the planet, I sincerely hope I am wrong, of course.

“The best attempts” - just letting that sink in.
 
From the article: Last year was the hottest on record due to human-caused climate change

I want to see the statistics, and how they specifically relate to temperature. Does one extra spray of Aqua Net = .005° F, for example?
 
Maybe this is better posted here:

Depressing to see how much microplastics are put into the environment by the degradation of tires and that tires on heavy vehicle shed more, like the tires on electric vehicles.

Cue depressing music here. Will we die from climate change or from microplastics in the environment?

Keep plastics off of Neptune!!
 
I watched a PBS newscast about the huge wind turbines being pounding into the ocean floor about 15 miles off the coast. Their blades each the length of a football field. As can be expected, there was a manufacturing defect with at least one of the blades made in Canada. It broke into the ocean. Who knows the environmental impact of that awful event? The report did not say if the investigation called any of the other blades into question. It also did not say how long these huge blades would last and what would be done with them when they failed. They did fly out to the wind mills and, of course, there was no wind, so …

The report praised this scientist for having solar panels on her house and driving an electric car. It did not highlight that her job was taking a huge research ship out to the deep waters and researching. I suspect that leaves a carbon mark.

These reports always like to talk about the environment in silos. This was about climate change. So, no discussion on how all of that product and science impacts the environment in other ways. Or even the carbon footprint required to build those things.

Finally, it talked about how to address this climate emergency, mentioning solar, wind, and hydro, but no mention of nukes. Hard to believe it to be an emergency if nukes are not discussed. Meanwhile, we pay billions for wind.
 
7 trillion annually for fossil fuel subsidies.

A Nuclear power plant takes 6-8 years to build and about 2-4 billion to construct. and has devastating consequences if it explodes. See fukishima and Chernobyl


Having written that, I am for nuclear if built and operated correctly. But, I get why folks are afraid. Chernobyl will never be habitable again
 
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7 trillion annually for fossil fuel subsidies.

A Nuclear power plant takes 6-8 years to build and about 2-4 billion to construct. and has devastating consequences if it explodes. See fukishima and Chernobyl


Having written that, I am for nuclear if built and operated correctly. But, I get why folks are afraid. Chernobyl will never be habitable again
I am definitely for nuclear energy and hope it can be generated safely, too.
 
7 trillion annually for fossil fuel subsidies.

A Nuclear power plant takes 6-8 years to build and about 2-4 billion to construct. and has devastating consequences if it explodes. See fukishima and Chernobyl


Having written that, I am for nuclear if built and operated correctly. But, I get why folks are afraid. Chernobyl will never be habitable again

SMH

I think they spent 40 billion [maybe it was over 10 billion, I will have to go back and see] on the off shore windmills. lol

Your post confirms it ain’t an emergency to you.
 
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Sorry, not sorry, but oil and gas should be here to stay unless we find something more reliable.

Key paragraph

So, what is needed to actually bring about the “green” transformation?

[O]ffshore wind would need to quadruple to up to 50GW, onshore wind double to potentially 27GW and solar triple to up to 47GW to achieve a target of 95 per cent of the UK’s electricity from green sources alongside a “strategic reserve” of gas.
This is all sheer fantasy, with one exception: the need for a “strategic reserve” of natural gas, although five percent is no doubt much too low. Why is that “strategic reserve” necessary? Because, no matter how much you spend, there will always be times–frequent times, in fact–when the wind doesn’t blow and the Sun doesn’t shine. So a reliable energy source will always be needed.

 
Not a very scientific approach, but I applaud you setting a boundary

Makes perfect sense. "Follow the money". If the people telling me I need to buy an EV for $10k more, don't have a problem flying private Jets.. then that tells me this isn't too big of a problem. If it was a big problem? They'd get rid of their jets post-haste. Same with beach houses about to be swallowed up by the ocean in 5 years.

Rules for thee, not for me.
 
The 2023 decline in wind generation indicates that wind as a generation source is maturing after decades of rapid growth. Slower wind speeds than normal affected wind generation in 2023, especially during the first half of the year when wind generation dropped by 14% compared with the same period in 2022

why the supposed costs of wind and solar projects that you see reported in the press, and alleged by “green” advocates, are always wildly off base:

[T]hese claims, which are already tenuous due to rising wind and solar costs, ignore virtually all of the hidden real-world costs associated with building and operating wind turbines and solar panels while also keeping the grid reliable, including:
* Additional transmission expenses to connect wind and solar to the grid;
* Additional costs associated with Green Plating the grid;
* Additional property taxes because there is more property to tax;
* “Load balancing costs,” which include the cost of backup generators and batteries;
* Overbuilding and curtailment costs incurred when wind and solar are overbuilt to meet demand during periods of low wind and solar generation and are turned off during periods of higher output to avoid overloading the grid;
* These comparisons also ignore the cost differential between low-cost, existing power plants and new power plants.
Add all of these factors together, and you have a recipe for soaring electricity prices due to the addition of new wind, solar, and battery storage on the electric grid.
 
The 2023 decline in wind generation indicates that wind as a generation source is maturing after decades of rapid growth. Slower wind speeds than normal affected wind generation in 2023, especially during the first half of the year when wind generation dropped by 14% compared with the same period in 2022

why the supposed costs of wind and solar projects that you see reported in the press, and alleged by “green” advocates, are always wildly off base:

The cost of the NJ offshore wind farm has been said to be between 40 billion and 74 billion (such a gap can only be politically motivated - how don’t they know?). It is expected to take about 10 years to build.

A nuclear power plant has been estimated to cost between 6 and 9 billion. And, to take 5-10 years to build.

Nuclear power is about 3 times more reliable than wind and present a a smaller carbon footprint. It takes less land space.

What the hell are these quacks doing? If the world is truly in trouble, they are either idiots or snake oil salesmen.
 
The cost of the NJ offshore wind farm has been said to be between 40 billion and 74 billion (such a gap can only be politically motivated - how don’t they know?). It is expected to take about 10 years to build.

A nuclear power plant has been estimated to cost between 6 and 9 billion. And, to take 5-10 years to build.

Nuclear power is about 3 times more reliable than wind and present a a smaller carbon footprint. It takes less land space.

What the hell are these quacks doing? If the world is truly in trouble, they are either idiots or snake oil salesmen.
Nuclear generation (or gas-fired for that matter) isn’t causing whales to beach themselves either.

And there’s zero reason to respond to GJ (he’s just a troll), but if California actually spent the time/money to do things like clearing out old brush and such, fires wouldn’t be as bad as they are.
 
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