I am not making any judgments about what the cause of the changing climate is, but simply sharing that February was the hottest February documented by recorded temperatures. We are going through a warming cycle, it certainly seems to me. That is my only point. Is it permanent ?? Will it reverse or moderate ?? I do not pretend to know.
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Two things stand out to me when there are articles that announce things like this. 1) We have only kept weather data for around 60-70 years accurately, or close to 100 years at any level, so "on record" isn't very telling. 2) we have been in a cooling trend for several decades so it has been expected that we start to warm up some.
Climate scientists claim they have pre-industrial temps.
They also claim that we are at historic CO2 levels which is so far from the truth. It's hard to convince people that don't want to think critically about anything like this and actually look at related data.
It’s definitely technologically possible. Israel routinely uses desalination plants all along its coastline. It’s probably still cost-prohibitive in CA. They have 40 million people in a huge state. Kentucky is five times bigger than Israel, which has 10 million people.
How did Minnesota farmers plant in Feb in the 1800s? Should've been way colder then, right?
Can we send John Kerry there to check it out?
And Al Gore, hell throw Bill Gates in there too. They can all go to hell if they can't find Neptune for all I care.
“The Antarctic was tropical far longer than it has been frozen. Tropical. The University of Pennsylvania went up there several years ago and they found metasequoia that were 26-foot diameter trunks. Think about 26-foot diameter trunks. The climate had changed so fast the trunks were not petrified, the leaves were still on the ground intact.”
- Tony Avent
- Tony Avent
If you buy into this stuff…then you better get China & India on board or you are pissing in the wind. Those two countries alone caused a huge increase in the overall global carbon footprint this past year even with the US & other countries decreasing their footprints.
Also, air travel increased significantly worldwide which is a big contributor to emissions. So please explain why “Green” universities like USC, UCLA, Stanford & Oregon are about to increase the air travel of their sports teams 10-fold by joining conferences on the opposite side of the country. Yet those universities keep their “Gold Member” status as champions of the green energy movement. What’s up with that???
It’s all BS.
Also, air travel increased significantly worldwide which is a big contributor to emissions. So please explain why “Green” universities like USC, UCLA, Stanford & Oregon are about to increase the air travel of their sports teams 10-fold by joining conferences on the opposite side of the country. Yet those universities keep their “Gold Member” status as champions of the green energy movement. What’s up with that???
It’s all BS.
Who determined that this guy is an "expert" on climate change? I think we can all agree he is clueless. Maybe he's a good cross country skier though.
Have you heard about food inside of Wooly Mammoths still being preserved because the bodies froze so fast? They had a guy from Simplot say it would have to be close to -200 celsius to freeze an animal that large fast enough that berries didn't digest in the belly.
Whatever happened.... Mammoths were apparently walking around and eating berries and then it got extremely cold really fast.
I saw where Europe was complaining so many people died due to heat in '22. I think around 20,000 people. They did not make a peep about the 40,000 people that died due to cold that same year. Humans do better in heat than cold. There is a reason nobody lives at the polls.
Agreed, for certain, but we certainly appear to be in a warming trend. I hope the trend is an “extreme” and it moderates, if not reverses …
I definitely agree it is easier to shed layers of clothing than to create warmth in bitter cold. Your post was interesting and made me curious. While searching, I found this study that seemed to be comprehensive and in-depth. It was very scientific and far above my pay grade. As a result, I could not understand conclusions drawn, if any …
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By “warming trend” are you referring to the fact that we are in a warm interglacial period that began about 11,000 years ago? If so, then yes we most certainly are in a “warming trend” in relation to the preceding ice age (which we are technically still in btw). I’m thankful for that. Aren’t you???
Guess what’s just around the corner (relatively speaking) in a few thousand years or so? Another effing ice age. This planet has been in and out of 5 of them since the dawn of time & I reckon it will continue to do so regardless of what man does or doesn’t do.
All 4 of the previous warm interglacial periods endured intermittent warming & cooling periods skewed to the warmer side overall…no different than the current one. Glaciers & ice sheets melted in all 4 of the previous warm interglacial periods…no different than the current one. Mother Earth is gonna do her thing regardless of man’s presence.
Should we do our best to cut down on pollution, etc…? Yes. Should we wreck economies by outpacing infrastructure to do so? No. Again, get China & India on board or you are pissing in the wind on the global scale.
As for me…I’ll take our current situation over an ice age any day of the week and twice on Earth Day. Speaking of which, I‘ve planted 27 trees on my property in the last 21 years…including 5 just last year. WTF have you done lately to save the planet???
I am enjoying planting trees and shrubs on my property. May I ask what kind of trees you have planted? This subject interest me more than the world is ending stuff.
The five I planted last year were: 2 weeping willows around the pond, 2 dogwoods (also on the back forty), and an experimental purple Chinese wisteria (closer to the house). Not sure how that last one will fare but my wife likes the way they look. Will probably add one or two more if that one pans out.
Also, saving the planet is just an added bonus. The real reason I like planting trees is because I like renting the mini-backhoe so I can dig the holes and then goof around with it until they come pick it up.
Men with toys. What kind of dogwoods? I find those are a bit addictive, if you start to investigate cultivars.
My understanding is that we are in a warming trend and I hope it slows down, if not reverses. That is also my only point and I am not suggesting anything more than that, including what anyone should do about it.
2021 Continued Earth’s Warming Trend
The past eight years have been the warmest in the global record.
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Definitely not. Would just confirm we are in a man made climate crisis. Just like when we warm. Or when we stay the same. Or when the wind blows.
Hopefully one day we can tax enough to get us out of this mess
Extreme heat might prevent safe air travel, it seems. Here are a couple of articles on the issue:
Why Airplanes Can’t Take Off or Fly in Extreme Heat | Blog- Monroe Aerospace
monroeaerospace.com
Can it be too hot for a plane to fly? How Phoenix is handling record heat
Extreme heat can ground airplanes, even though passenger jets are made to handle high temps. What to know if you're flying during this heat wave.
www.usatoday.com
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Not sure if climate-related, but this is alarming … released yesterday.
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Hawaii "on the verge of catastrophe" as water crisis continues — CBS News
The island home to Hawaii's capital may be surrounded by ocean, but years-long drought conditions, tourist activities and contamination are jeopardizing the island's only source of freshwater.
Never heard much ozone talk recently …
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Ground-level ozone is getting worse. Here's what it means for your health. — National Geographic
The increase in ground-level ozone caused by climate change raises the chance of respiratory problems – people with asthma, emphysema, or chronic bronchitis are especially at risk.
Not sure if climate-related, but this is alarming … released yesterday.
Hawaii "on the verge of catastrophe" as water crisis continues — CBS News
The island home to Hawaii's capital may be surrounded by ocean, but years-long drought conditions, tourist activities and contamination are jeopardizing the island's only source of freshwater.
We can check for life on Mars, but can't come up w/ a widespread cost efficient ocean desalination process....unbelievable.
Y'all know Antarctica was tropical 70 M years ago because it was located at a completely different spot, right?
Coral reefs can't keep up with climate change. So scientists are speeding up evolution — NPR
Climate change is heating oceans faster than the world's coral reefs can handle. So scientists are breeding corals that can withstand hotter temperatures – but only to a point.
Coral reefs can't keep up with climate change. So scientists are speeding up evolution — NPR
Climate change is heating oceans faster than the world's coral reefs can handle. So scientists are breeding corals that can withstand hotter temperatures – but only to a point.
Yeah. That won’t have any negative ramifications. 🤦♂️
Can't save the environment unless you destroy the organisms first. Science.
We’ve decided to speed up evolution … for one species. We don’t contemplate any adverse impact with regard to our decision.
OT: This does not appear to be climate related, at all, but subsidence is alarming.
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Nearly half of China's major cities are sinking, researchers say — Reuters
Nearly half of China's major cities are suffering "moderate to severe" levels of subsidence, putting millions of people at risk of flooding especially as sea levels rise, according to a study of nationwide satellite data released on Friday.
We might be closer to changing course on climate change than we realized — Vox
Greenhouse gas emissions might have already peaked. Now they need to fall — fast.
Taking a break from all of the Neptune comments and going a bit OT, I read today that the Colorado River 2 decade old drought may be coming to an end.
