When was the last time your drove your car?Inside Exxon’s Strategy to Downplay Climate Change
Internal documents show what the oil giant said publicly was very different from how it approached the issue privately
An Exxon Mobil plant in Baytown, Texas Sept. 14, 2023 at 5:30 am ET
Mobil issued its first public statement that burning fossil fuels contributes to climate change in 2006, following years of denial. In public forums, the company argued that the risk of serious impact on the environment justified global action.
Yet behind closed doors, Exxon took a very different tack: Its executives strategized over how to diminish concerns about warming temperatures, and they sought to muddle scientific findings that might hurt its oil-and-gas business, according to internal Exxon documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal and interviews with former executives.
Exxon’s public acceptance in 2006 of the risks posed by climate change was an early act of Rex Tillerson, an Exxon lifer who became CEO that year. Some viewed him as a moderating force who brought Exxon in line with the scientific consensus.
https://www.wsj.com/economy/central...ion-sept-19243b7e?mod=article_whats_news_pos2
The documents reviewed by the Journal, which haven’t been previously reported, cast Tillerson’s decadelong tenure in a different light. They show that Tillerson, as well as some of Exxon’s board directors and other top executives, sought to cast doubt on the severity of climate change’s impacts. Exxon scientists supported research that questioned the findings of mainstream climate science, even after the company said it would stop funding think tanks and others that promoted climate-change denial.
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Exxon is now a defendant in dozens of lawsuits around the U.S. that accuse it and other oil companies of deception over climate change and that aim to collect billions of dollars in damages. Prosecutors and attorneys involved in some of the cases are seeking some of the documents reviewed by the Journal, which were part of a previous investigation by New York’s attorney general but never made public.
One of the lawsuits is from Hawaii’s Maui County, where wildfires killed more than 100 people in August. The lawsuit, filed in 2020, alleged the island faced increased climate-related risks, including more dangerous wildfires, caused by fossil-fuel companies. Some of the lawsuits may go to trial as soon as next year.
“I know how this information looks—when taken out of context, it seems bad,” Exxon CEO Darren Woods said in response to the Journal’s inquiry about the documents. “But having worked with some of these colleagues earlier in my career, I have the benefit of knowing they are people of good intent. None of these old emails and notes matter though. All that does is that we’re building an entire business dedicated to reducing emissions—both our own and others—and spending billions of dollars on solutions that have a real, sustainable impact.”
Under Woods, who became CEO in 2017, Exxon has committed to spend $17 billion over five years on emissions-reducing technologies. Exxon didn’t address detailed questions sent by the Journal.
Tillerson declined to comment through a representative.
Exxon turned millions of pages of documents over to the New York attorney general during that office’s yearslong investigation, announced in 2015, into whether the company misled investors about the impact of climate regulation on its business. The Journal reviewed summaries of the documents that Exxon’s lawyers had determined were the most significant. After the attorney general narrowed the focus of the case, the documents weren’t made public.
The documents summarize emails between top executives, board meetings and Tillerson’s edits of speeches, among other things.
After a nearly three-week trial in 2019, Justice Barry Ostrager of the New York State Supreme Court ruled the New York attorney general failed to prove its case.
“Nothing in this opinion is intended to absolve Exxon Mobil from responsibility for contributing to climate change,” Ostrager wrote.
Throughout Tillerson’s tenure between 2006 and 2016, Exxon executives in their internal communications attempted to push back against the notion that humans needed to curtail oil and gas use to help the planet—despite the company’s public statements that action was needed.
In 2012, after the pre-eminent scientific authority on climate change warned of global calamity if carbon emissions continued unabated, Tillerson disagreed and directed Exxon researchers to “influence” the group.
As pressure mounted to stop drilling in the Arctic due to rapid glacial melting and other environmental impacts, Exxon fretted about a key project in Russia’s far north and worked to “de-couple climate change and the Arctic.”
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Exxon’s deal to explore the Arctic with
Russia’s Rosneft came amid growing
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As this shapes up, part of the moral
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“The general perception is that Tillerson was softer and stopped funding the bad guys” that were espousing climate change denial, said Lee Wasserman, the director of the Rockefeller Family Fund, a charity that partly focuses on environmental issues. “This is the first X-ray into Tillerson’s head and shows he wanted to throw climate mitigation off the rails. It’s obituary-changing.”
The fund has issued grants financing litigation and other support for around two dozen cases against Exxon, whose predecessor, Standard Oil, was founded by family patriarch John D. Rockefeller. The fund has invested millions of dollars in a broader campaign against big oil companies.
A polar bear crosses sea ice in the Arctic Ocean. PHOTO: ANGELA OWENS/THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
Seminal warning
A study published earlier this year in the journal Science determined Exxon’s climate modelers had predicted warming temperatures with precision since the 1970s, in line with the scientific consensus. The study was funded, in part, by a grant from the Rockefeller Family Fund.
In the summer of 1988, NASA scientist James Hansen issued what’s now seen as a seminal warning on climate change when he testified before Congress that Earth was warming dangerously and humans were causing it.
Frank Sprow, then Exxon’s head of corporate research, sent a memo to colleagues a few months later articulating what would become a central pillar of Exxon’s strategy.
“If a worldwide consensus emerges that action is needed to mitigate against Greenhouse gas effects, substantial negative impacts on Exxon could occur,” wrote Sprow. “Any additional R&D efforts within Corporate Research on Greenhouse should have two primary purposes: 1. Protect the value of our resources (oil, gas, coal). 2. Preserve Exxon’s business options.”
Sprow’s memo was adopted by Exxon as policy, he said in a recent interview.
Exxon stopped most internal climate research, instead funding it through university and research organizations, Sprow said. Exxon’s corporate research division was redirected from broader scientific study to focus on “science to support our business.”
Sprow said he and former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond acknowledged the climate was changing but questioned to what extent human activity was causing it and how serious and rapid the impacts would be. The January study in Science said that Exxon’s climate modelers mostly attributed the changes to humans.
Lee Raymond in 2005. PHOTO: NICHOLAS KAMM/AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES
Martin Hoffert, who worked as a consultant to Exxon on climate science in the 1980s, said Sprow’s memo sent another message: “It’s an oblique way of saying we’re in the oil business and we’re not going to get out of the oil business, and we’ll do everything we can to make money on the oil business.”
By the time Tillerson became CEO in 2006, Exxon’s positions on climate change had become a public-relations nightmare, according to Sprow, who retired from the company in 2005.
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Public shift
Exxon’s public shift on climate change came after the Royal Society, a British scientific academy, criticized the company for spreading “inaccurate and misleading” views on climate science in 2006. Exxon responded in a letter that it recognized “the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the Earth’s atmosphere poses risks that may prove significant for society and ecosystems.”
An Eagle Scout and a civil engineer by training, Tillerson spent his entire career at Exxon before becoming CEO in 2006. He left in 2017 to become then-President Trump’s Secretary of State.
His views on climate change were influenced by the previous generation of Exxon executives, said former company executives who worked with him. During his tenure, Tillerson took little action to curb the company’s emissions and instead believed the onus was on governments to push companies to address climate change, they said.
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It's not political.
LAUNCESTON, Australia, Sept 19 (Reuters) - China is building two-thirds of the coal-fired electricity generation capacity currently under construction globally, and this may not be as disastrous for the climate as it sounds.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china...Australia, Sept 19 (,the climate as it sounds.
LAUNCESTON, Australia, Sept 19 (Reuters) - China is building two-thirds of the coal-fired electricity generation capacity currently under construction globally, and this may not be as disastrous for the climate as it sounds.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china...Australia, Sept 19 (,the climate as it sounds.
Oh, China can meet its objective by continuing to build more and more coal burning plants? Yeah, who believes that shat? Stand up right now and account for yourself. We want to see the fools.
In the U.S., about 10-15% of emissions come from car use. If that number is the same for China, there is no way moving to EVs will offset the new coal plants.
Why do journees bend over backwards for China? Because this is not an existential threat and they know it.
Another problem with that piece would be the conclusion that electric cars will last for 170k miles. Some calculations have EV batteries lasting about 100k miles. While they may last more, generalizing EV battery lives to 170k is not scientific.
This is an important fact listed in the article and backed by a couple of manufacturers:
A model developed by the U.S. Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory shows that in a country with China's power generation profile, a battery electric vehicle will have to drive 78,700 miles (125,900 km) before being cleaner than an ICE equivalent.
UK PM Rishi Sunak announces shift on climate policies, waters down targets
LONDON — U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak on Wednesday said his government would take a new approach to meeting its emissions targets as he announced a delay on the ban on the sale of new gasoline and diesel cars.The ban will move from 2030 to 2035, in a shift that was criticized earlier in the day as causing uncertainty for the automotive industry as it readies for the electric vehicle transition.
Sunak said people needed more time to make the transition away from gas boilers and that households in some areas would get a delay on existing targets for the ban on new fossil fuel boilers. He also announced a 50% increase in cash grants under the government’s boiler upgrade program.
In a speech at Downing Street in which he sought to frame the new approach as in the interests of households, Sunak said he would announce a series of long-term decisions over the coming months, starting with a “new approach to one of the biggest challenges we face, climate change.”
“I believe deeply that when you ask most people about climate change they want to do the right thing, they’re even prepared to make sacrifices, but it cannot be right for Westminster to impose such costs on working people, especially those who are already struggling to make ends meet,” he said Wednesday. He also denied watering down targets despite the pushing back of key timelines.
Sunak said the U.K. had further to go to get charging infrastructure “truly nationwide” and needed to grow the automotive industry so it wasn’t reliant on imports from countries such as China.
Many of the announcements were leaked by the BBC late Tuesday, attracting widespread criticism from U.K.-based industry bodies and automakers ahead of the prime minister’s speech.
Lisa Brankin, chair of Ford UK — which has committed to making the U.K. its European electric vehicle component manufacturing hub — said the 2030 target was a “vital catalyst to accelerate Ford into a cleaner future.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/20/uk-...-say-pm-sunak-will-dilute-green-policies.html
Biden unveils massive govt work program to fight global warming
Biden's climate corps will hire 'diverse generation' of 20,000 Americans to 'tackle climate change'; no work experience required
President Biden is planning to sign an executive order Wednesday to establish a federal workforce training and service initiative as part of his administration's efforts to fight climate change.
Biden's so-called American Climate Corps will, according to the White House, mobilize "a new, diverse generation" of more than 20,000 Americans who will be trained and put to work on conservation, clean energy and environmental justice projects. The ultimate goal of the program is to pave the way for members of the corps to find jobs in the public and private sector.
"The American Climate Corps is a new initiative that will… work on a wide range of projects that tackle climate change — including restoring coastal wetlands to protect communities from storm surges and flooding, deploying clean energy, managing forests to improve health and prevent catastrophic wildfires, implementing energy efficient solutions to cut energy bills for hardworking families, and more," the White House said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-unveils-massive-govt-work-program-to-fight-global-warming
Plus there is the fact that a 2030 deadline was an impossibility. Manufacturing, infrastructure, demand on the grid - it was not going to happen.
You mean no one really took into consideration that just stating a goal for political points doesn't mean it's a well thought out plan that takes into account the many variables needed to be considered to achieve it?
I don't believe you.
Eagles make history with hydrogen refueling station
Sep 22, 2023 at 05:30 PM
In February of 2020, the Eagles and PDC Machines announced a multiyear sustainability partnership. Just a few weeks later, the world shut down due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Fast-forward to September 22, 2023 as the Eagles became the first professional sports team in North America to install and utilize a hydrogen refueling station to power its passenger vehicles thanks to the relationship with PDC Machines.
"Today marks another milestone for Lincoln Financial Field, the Philadelphia Eagles Go Green program, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and the City of Philadelphia," said Eagles President Don Smolenski. "This is another stop on our sustainability journey as we continually strive to reduce our carbon footprint."
The refueling station was designed to take all the inputs of water and electricity to produce clean hydrogen. The unit produces green hydrogen energy by taking electricity from the stadium's 10,456 solar panels and adding water. The only emission from hydrogen energy is water vapor, which is a clean fuel compared to gasoline and diesel.
Green hydrogen is hydrogen produced by the electrolysis of water. The process is powered by renewable energy. Green hydrogen emits no pollution and is considered the cleanest and most sustainable form of hydrogen.
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, who attended the ribbon-cutting ceremony, joked that the refueling station would contain Kelly Green hydrogen.
"Not only are the Eagles leading on the field, but they are setting an example for how companies throughout Pennsylvania and the country can act when it comes to addressing climate change and bringing clean energy into their business strategy," Shapiro said.
This Hyundai Nexo was the first car to be serviced at the hydrogen refueling station.
The newest Go Green initiative would not have been possible without PDC Machines.
Before the pandemic, the Eagles and PDC announced their partnership with an event at Lincoln Financial Field and a photoshoot with the hydrogen vehicle.
However, the collaboration did not stop. The PDC team worked diligently and purposefully to move forward and install the hydrogen refueling unit in the Stadium Control parking lot on the south side of the stadium.
"I want to thank the City of Philadelphia for working with us to get this product permitted to be sitting here," said PDC Executive Chairman Kareem Afzal. "It is a very unique installation nationally and throughout the world. This is truly the first that I have seen at a stadium, producing hydrogen, and fueling vehicles on site."
PDC is a local, father-and-son business that was started in 1977 by Kareem's father Sy after immigrating from India.
The goal of PDC is to lead the world's transition to clean energy while making a lasting impact on the community, planet, and generations to come. Over the years, PDC has made that happen, becoming an industry leader. The company now has offices in South Korea, Japan, and Germany, as well as a massive new facility in Souderton, Pennsylvania.
"My father worked very hard and diligently throughout my childhood, working to build this company," Afzal said. "Through his leadership over the years, we grew this company from a sole proprietor to the 208 people that are powering the future of hydrogen today."
The team's hydrogen-powered Hyundai Nexo was the first vehicle to use the hydrogen refueling station that is expected to change the game when it comes to using clean energy in the community.
After summer’s extreme weather, more Americans see climate change as a culprit, AP-NORC poll shows
BY TAMMY WEBBER AND LINLEY SANDERS
Updated 7:09 AM CDT, September 25, 2023
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Kathleen Maxwell has lived in Phoenix for more than 20 years, but this summer was the first time she felt fear, as daily high temperatures soared to 110 degrees or hotter and kept it up for a record-shattering 31 consecutive days.
“It’s always been really hot here, but nothing like this past summer,” said Maxwell, 50, who last week opened her windows for the first time since March and walked her dog outdoors for the first time since May. “I was seriously scared. Like, what if this doesn’t end and this is how it’s going to be?”
Maxwell blames climate change, and she’s not alone.
New polling from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research indicates that extreme weather, including a summer that brought dangerous heat for much of the United States, is bolstering Americans’ belief that they’ve personally felt the impact of climate change.
About 9 in 10 Americans (87%) say they have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the past five years — including drought, extreme heat, severe storms, wildfires or flooding — up from 79% who said that just a few months ago in April. And about three-quarters of those believe climate change is at least partly to blame.
In total, 64% of U.S. adults say both that they’ve recently experienced extreme weather and that they believe it was caused at least partially by climate change, up from 54% in April. And about 65% say climate change will have or already has had a major impact in their lifetime.
This summer’s heat might be a big factor: About three-quarters of Americans (74%) say they’ve been affected by extremely hot weather or extreme heat waves in the last five years, up from 55% in April — and of those, 92% said they’ve had that experience just in the past few months.
This summer was the hottest ever measured in the Northern Hemisphere, according to the World Meteorological Organization and the European climate service Copernicus.
Millions of Americans also were affected by the worst wildfire season in Canada’s history, which sent choking smoke into parts of the U.S. About six in 10 U.S. adults say haze or smoke from the wildfires affected them “a lot” (15%) or “a little” (48%) in recent months.
And around the world, extreme heat, storms, flooding and wildfires have affected tens of millions of people this year, with scientists saying climate change has made such events more likely and intense.
Following days of rain, floodwaters surround homes and vehicles in the Planada community of Merced County, Calif., Jan. 10, 2023. (AP Photo/Noah Berger, File)
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Anthony Leiserowitz, director of the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication, said researchers there have conducted twice-yearly surveys of Americans for 15 years, but it wasn’t until 2016 that they saw an indication that people’s experience with extreme weather was affecting their views about climate change. “And the signal has been getting stronger and stronger year by year as these conditions continue to get worse and worse,” he said.
But he also believes that media coverage of climate change has changed dramatically, and that the public is interpreting information in a more scientific way than they did even a decade ago.
Seventy-six-year-old Bruce Alvord, of Hagerstown, Maryland, said it wasn’t unusual to experience days with a 112-degree heat index this summer, and health conditions mean that “heat really bothers me because it’s restricted what I can do.”
Even so, the retired government worker doesn’t believe in human-caused climate change; he recalls stories from his grandparents about bad weather, and thinks the climate is fluctuating on its own.
“The way the way I look at it is I think it’s a bunch of powerful politicians and lobbying groups that ... have their agenda,” said Alvord, a Republican who sees no need to change his own habits or for the government to do more. “I drive a Chrysler 300 (with a V8 engine). I use premium gas. I get 15 miles a gallon. I don’t give a damn.”
FILE - Salvation Army volunteer Francisca Corral, center, gives water to a man at a their Valley Heat Relief Station, July 11, 2023 in Phoenix. More Americans believe they’ve personally felt the impact of climate change because of recent extreme weather, including a summer that brought dangerous heat for much of the United States, according to new polling from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. (AP Photo/Matt York, File)
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The AP-NORC poll found significant differences between Democrats and Republicans. Among those who have experienced extreme weather, Democrats (93%) are more certain that climate change was a cause, compared to just half of Republicans (48%).
About 9 in 10 Democrats say climate change is happening, with nearly all of the remaining Democrats being unsure about whether climate change is happening (5%), rather than outright rejecting it. Republicans are split: 49% say climate change is happening, but 26% say it’s not and an additional 25% are unsure. Overall, 74% of Americans say climate change is happening, largely unchanged from April.
Republican Ronald Livingston, 70, of Clute, Texas, said he’s not sure if human activity is causing climate change, “but I know something is going on because we have been sweating our butts off.”
Tina Brotherton, 88, looks over the remains of her business, Tina’s Dockside Inn, which was completely destroyed in Hurricane Idalia, as was Brotherton’s nearby home, in Horseshoe Beach, Fla., Sept. 1, 2023. (AP Photo/Rebecca Blackwell, File)
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The retired history teacher said it didn’t rain for several months this year, killing his grass and drying up a slough on his property where he sometimes fishes. It was so hot — with 45 days of 100 degrees or more — that he could barely go outside, and he struggled to grow a garden. He also believes that hurricanes are getting stronger.
And after this summer, he’s keeping an open mind about climate change.
“It worries me to the extent that I don’t think we can go two or three more years of this,” Livingston said.
Jeremiah Bohr, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh who studies climate change communication, said scientific evidence “is not going to change the minds that haven’t already been changed.” But people might be swayed if people or institutions they already trust become convinced and spread the word, Bohr said.
New Orleans braces for drinking water emergency from drought-stricken Mississippi River
PUBLISHED TUE, SEP 26 20236:25 AM EDT
Denise Chow
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People walk along the banks of the Mississippi River, which has seen record low water levels, in Grand Tower, Illinois, November 2, 2022.
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Officials in Louisiana are in a race against time as salt water from the Gulf of Mexico threatens drinking water supplies in New Orleans and its surrounding areas because of unusually low levels in the drought-addled Mississippi River.
New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell signed an emergency declaration Friday in response to concerns that salt water encroaching upriver could affect the availability of safe drinking water in the coming weeks.
The situation highlights the dangers of saltwater intrusion for communities in the southeastern part of Louisiana and adds to broader concerns about climate change and the availability of safe drinking water in drought-prone parts of the country.
Stephen Murphy, an assistant professor at Tulane University’s School of Public Health and Tropical Medicine, estimated that close to 1 million people within the greater New Orleans metropolitan area could be affected if water levels in the Mississippi River remain low.
Though forecasts may change, it’s estimated that briny water could reach water intake facilities in Belle Chasse by Oct. 13 and facilities in New Orleans later in October.
Around 2,000 residents in Plaquemines Parish, south of New Orleans, were already relying on bottled water this summer after salt water infiltrated the area’s water systems.
Excess salinity in drinking water can cause elevated sodium levels in the body, which increases blood pressure.
Lingering drought conditions have kept the Mississippi River at abnormally low levels and significantly weakened its flow, Murphy said, adding that the area’s unique topography has aggravated the situation.
The mouth of the Mississippi River sits substantially below sea level, which means some salt water from the Gulf of Mexico naturally creeps inland. Salt water is denser than fresh water, so it flows like a wedge along the riverbed underneath the fresh water of the Mississippi.
In normal times, the river’s downstream flow is powerful enough to stem the encroaching salt water, preventing it from moving too far inland. Severe drought conditions have caused water levels in the Mississippi to plunge to one of their lowest levels in recent decades.
“The river’s flow rate is no longer able to combat the saltwater wedge,” Murphy said. “On a typical day, it’s strong enough to keep the salt water at bay, but we’ve just seen a reduced volume of water coming this far south downriver.”
Scientists have said saltwater intrusion in the Lower Mississippi River region becomes an issue when the river’s flow falls below 300,000 cubic feet per second. As of last week, Murphy said, the flow stood at 148,000 cubic feet per second.
At a news briefing Friday, Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards said lack of precipitation has been to blame for the river’s woes.
He said in a statement released Friday, “Unfortunately, without any relief from the dry weather we are starting to see the saltwater intrusion creep further up the river despite efforts to mitigate the problems by the Army Corps of Engineers.”
This week, the Army Corps is expanding an underwater barrier that was first constructed in July to delay the saltwater intrusion upriver. The barrier, known as a sill, functions similarly to an underwater levee. Murphy said that if conditions remain dry, the sill will most likely be overtopped again.
“We’re trying our best to delay the onset of this saltwater wedge moving further north and bide time until hopefully Mother Nature intervenes but also to help us get some assets and resources to offset some of that salt water,” he said.
State officials said they will work with parishes to test water supplies and monitor any changes. The Army Corps also said millions of gallons of water are being brought in to dilute local water supplies if needed.
“The Corps is securing water barges that will support impacted water treatment facilities by transporting water collected from portions of the river that do not have salinity readings,” Col. Cullen Jones, the Corps’ New Orleans District commander, said Monday in a statement. “This water can then be combined with water at the municipal facility to create a mixture that is safe for treatment.”
Murphy said the region’s drinking water concerns are part of a bigger narrative about drought and the availability of potable water in a warming world.
“It’s something that we can no longer ignore,” he said. “We’ve had an extremely hot season, we had a heat dome across the Southern states, and we experienced hotter-than-average temperatures across the entire globe. It’s unfortunate, but sometimes it takes a moment of crisis to call attention to these things in our own backyards
Cool mornings and evenings starting to dot the calendar, as autumn makes her entrance.....same as she does every single year at this time.
KingSeve.....go to google and research horrible weather incidents. You will find, after a quick search (if you are a googler) that there are dozens after dozens of stories dating back hundreds of years identical to what you just listed above.
In Louisville, we have had a cooler than average August and a cool September. We are in a drought of about 5-6 weeks. That dry spell usually comes in the June to August stretch. So, a little later this year.
Extreme weather is a regular occurrence today and at a record breaking pace
So is everything because the internet. In 1920 you wouldn’t know there was a earthquake in the Philippines that killed 1,000 people for 6 months and other places you wouldn’t even know it happened.
Of course it “happens” more because we see it with satellites and TV and the internet.
Do you think NOAA knew about a hurricane or earthquake in Iran 80 years ago?
I’ll take global warming over global cooling any day.
So, when is everyone supposed to die? Soon? Or were we already supposed to be dead?
Y’all unhinged climate lunatics have done a real number on our youth. And I’m sure you’re proud of it.
Y’all unhinged climate lunatics have done a real number on our youth. And I’m sure you’re proud of it.
They happen yearly...and have for centuries.
Yeah they will happen wether people are on earth or not. We don’t want to exacerbate them but they will happen no matter what.
None of us will be here, but from 2095 thru 3025, there will be hot summers, and cold winters. There will be storms, floods, hurricanes, blizzards, and droughts. There will be mild summers and winters as well.
^^^All true unless the big guy decides he has had enough. Getting rid of all the aqua-net in the world isn't going to change it.
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So how are you going to control the temperature of the planet?
You may be already dead. Posting in this thread is an indication that something has died.
Can go back to when we did not have weather?
oh SNAP!
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Someone got paid for this research.
New ‘supercontinent’ could wipe out humans and make Earth uninhabitable, study suggests
The formation of a new “supercontinent” could wipe out humans and all other mammals still alive in 250 million years, researchers have predicted.
Someone got paid for this research.
There goes my plans for living longer by controlling my diabetes if I’m going to die in 250 million years regardless of how much I workout. 😉oh SNAP!
New ‘supercontinent’ could wipe out humans and make Earth uninhabitable, study suggests
The formation of a new “supercontinent” could wipe out humans and all other mammals still alive in 250 million years, researchers have predicted.
Someone got paid for this research.
China recently completed an 1,100 mile railway to transport 200 million tons of coal annually for it's utilities. They are responsible for 1/3 of the planet's greenhouse gases and that share is only increasing. The Paris accord is a total joke. Meanwhile, the Biden administration wants to outlaw gas stovetops , ovens and water heaters. 🤔
www.dailymail.co.uk
China prepares to open LONGEST coal transporting railway in the world
As Western nations spend and impose restrictions on citizens in the name of climate change, China is plowing ahead with its coal-powered plan for global dominance.
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Possibility for record-breaking high temperatures in and around ATX this afternoon and tomorrow. 96°F end of October? Unprecedented.
Much of Europe has been hit with cold temperatures and heavy snow falls so far this month, taking Europeans by surprise. “Experts” blame warming.
The man who founded the Weather Channel says if you believe in global warming you are full of shit. Lol. Remember Al Gore started this bull shit and said America would be under water by 2020 because of ice melt.
95% of Democrats believe in more than 2 genders as well.
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