Gilmore gone

[Grumpyolddawg]

That for sure doesn't help. My point is, there are schools out there that are raising the bar out of the reach of schools like UK. When schools are budgeting $20 million a year for their roster, UK and many others can't compete with that.

20 million, much closer to 30m. UGA has tried to sign several from portal, was outbid on all, on signing day went 0 for 4 on instate kids, a DL got 3m from Texas. Kirby funnels UGA nil to retaining players he wants to keep. It is never the top bidder on a player. And now, players have wanted the same freedom to move like coaches, UGA is adding a buyout. You want to leave pay the buyout. But as things are going, UGA will be struggling getting bow eligible if it cost 25m to be competitive.

It's not just a UK problem, it's a college athletics problem. There are no rules, teams can contact your good players offer them big raises, kids are sueing and winning to get more eligibility because they aren't likely going to make it in NFL. A kid can go JUCO, sign with BYU, go on his 2 year .mission, RS and get a medical RS and be in college 10 years playing ball. But once the court system gets involved all logic goes out the window and the usage of a word changes everything and voids what both parties want.

 

[Kybluedude]

20 million, much closer to 30m. UGA has tried to sign several from portal, was outbid on all, on signing day went 0 for 4 on instate kids, a DL got 3m from Texas. Kirby funnels UGA nil to retaining players he wants to keep. It is never the top bidder on a player. And now, players have wanted the same freedom to move like coaches, UGA is adding a buyout. You want to leave pay the buyout. But as things are going, UGA will be struggling getting bow eligible if it cost 25m to be competitive.

Did I hear correctly that Beck tools around in a $300,000 Lamborghini?

 

[3632]

I think Stoops will stay at least another two years, Barnhart may not fire him no matter what. As others have pointed out, what did it gain A&M to pay $75M to Fisher, then spend another butt load of money on a new coach and staff, and another butt load on NIL . . . only to go 8-5?

Honestly, I have said for a long time now that I seriously doubt Kentucky has the financial resources to play the NIL/transfer portal game successfully, so from a business sense, what good does it do to waste $44M or $33M or even $22M to buy out Stoops, if you then have to go out and spend a ton more money on new coaches and players?

It’s only Elko’s first year but even if it’s the same performance again next year, I get it… at least they feel like they’re taking their swings.

 

[trueblujr2]

This tells me that Stoops is sticking with the same VANILLA offense that he has FORCED on every OC he's had here.

Why would ANY WR that wants to play in an exciting offense have a desire to play here????

SAD

If he gets back to the offense that won us 10 games then I’ll take it. Were you all pissed when we were running it down people’s throats and winning Citrus Bowls?

 

[catben]

If he gets back to the offense that won us 10 games then I’ll take it. Were you all pissed when we were running it down people’s throats and winning Citrus Bowls?

That was with All-American O-Linemen and NFL RB's and an All-American LB and NFL DB's!!! Then with an NFL QB, RB, WR and a defense that was top 10 in the country.

Do you see that being the case next season or the one after that?????

I don't.

 

[Tskware]

20 million, much closer to 30m. UGA has tried to sign several from portal, was outbid on all, on signing day went 0 for 4 on instate kids, a DL got 3m from Texas. Kirby funnels UGA nil to retaining players he wants to keep. It is never the top bidder on a player. And now, players have wanted the same freedom to move like coaches, UGA is adding a buyout. You want to leave pay the buyout. But as things are going, UGA will be struggling getting bow eligible if it cost 25m to be competitive.

It's not just a UK problem, it's a college athletics problem. There are no rules, teams can contact your good players offer them big raises, kids are sueing and winning to get more eligibility because they aren't likely going to make it in NFL. A kid can go JUCO, sign with BYU, go on his 2 year .mission, RS and get a medical RS and be in college 10 years playing ball. But once the court system gets involved all logic goes out the window and the usage of a word changes everything and voids what both parties want.

Well, come on now, I read yesterday that on the current roster, UGA has 69 4 and 5 star recruits, the most of any team in the country, so under any reasonable scenario I find it VERY hard to believe Georgia is going to go 5-7 or 4-8 anytime soon.

I do agree with the 2nd paragraph of your post 1000%. The current system just can't be sustainable, otherwise, the teams will be fully professional and only loosely affiliated with their "host" schools. Hell, that may be at least partially true now.

 

[Thecycle27]

I like Stoops, always have. I draw a different conclusion from all of this though. I think it's more likely, at least in my opinion, that whoever the coach is over the next five years, UK is getting closer and closer to not being able to afford a competitive football team.

I do think the lack of success on offense opens door for these conversations but the odds are the kid is getting more money. The odds are in the coaches opinion was the kid wasn’t worth the asking price.

The market is extremely fluid. For example UT looses a couple of WR’s recently the market for WR just went up. Not saying that is who is calling just UT may of been window shopping then their best receiver enters the portal now they are really in buy mode.

What fans don’t know is maybe the staff has guys interested and were willing to let him go.

This is why high school recruiting in this environment is crazy.

 

[Thecycle27]

Sounds like he may go to OM, FSU or Miami, they appear to be the most likely. OM is tampering with multiple rosters. Been called out on it too, just falls on deaf ears, NCAA has zero authority, whoever will just sue and NCAA has lost more than the Washington generals.

Let’s be honest every team is and has been tempering the only difference is how much money teams are throwing around in SEC and at other places that have big donors.

 

[PhattyJ4UK]

If he gets back to the offense that won us 10 games then I’ll take it. Were you all pissed when we were running it down people’s throats and winning Citrus Bowls?

Lmao.

You are so fricken delusional and if mark stoops asked you to give him a blowie you’d hit your knees with a quickness.

But to answer your question- yes. That season was the EXCEPTION. Not the rule. And we won 9 games and a bowl. Major difference. 10 wins has not been done here and it also means a most likely playoff birth. 9 does not.

But let’s look at it:
Oh wait it’s vacated. But we can still discuss

Started off pummeling a shit team.

Won the Missouri game who finished 3-5/6-7

Needed a lucky break to beat the might moccasins of Chattanooga

Beat 3-5/7-6 South Carolina by 6

Beat 2-6/6-7 Florida by 7

Won good at 3-5/6-7 lsu


Now we think we’re good. We’re super hyped(even though people who can actually comprehend football knew we were closer to Florida/sc than Georgia) Then came the annual Georgia game where we looked like complete dog crap.

Then came the annual pre/post Georgia game complete cluster**** and giving away of a game because stoops is COMPLETELY unable of getting over a big loss and a loss to 4-4/7-6 Mississippi state

Next up: another loss to 4-4/7-6 Tennessee

Get back in the W column with a MASSIVE win over 0-8/2-0 Vanderbilt

Then patsy New Mexico State and Louisville to round it out.


In other words, we will NEVER have a gift schedule like that again and stoops STILL found a way to fuc@ it up. With a semblance of competence we should’ve been in a fricken playoff position.


Stoops boot lickers- really can’t believe any exist anymore but you and bbinsanity must be his lovers or something- use that vacated season as a “but but, what about…”. When in reality it’s THE most telling season of just how bad stoops is as a coach. For example: Indiana just had A very similar schedule to our NINE win season. And a similar team to us- not elite but better than middling teams and they did what they needed to do. We needed a miracle to beat the moccasins.

Suck off stoops all you want but it only makes you look like a moron.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Lmao.

You are so fricken delusional and if mark stoops asked you to give him a blowie you’d hit your knees with a quickness.

But to answer your question- yes. That season was the EXCEPTION. Not the rule. And we won 9 games and a bowl. Major difference. 10 wins has not been done here and it also means a most likely playoff birth. 9 does not.

But let’s look at it:
Oh wait it’s vacated. But we can still discuss

Started off pummeling a shit team.

Won the Missouri game who finished 3-5/6-7

Needed a lucky break to beat the might moccasins of Chattanooga

Beat 3-5/7-6 South Carolina by 6

Beat 2-6/6-7 Florida by 7

Won good at 3-5/6-7 lsu


Now we think we’re good. We’re super hyped(even though people who can actually comprehend football knew we were closer to Florida/sc than Georgia) Then came the annual Georgia game where we looked like complete dog crap.

Then came the annual pre/post Georgia game complete cluster**** and giving away of a game because stoops is COMPLETELY unable of getting over a big loss and a loss to 4-4/7-6 Mississippi state

Next up: another loss to 4-4/7-6 Tennessee

Get back in the W column with a MASSIVE win over 0-8/2-0 Vanderbilt

Then patsy New Mexico State and Louisville to round it out.


In other words, we will NEVER have a gift schedule like that again and stoops STILL found a way to fuc@ it up. With a semblance of competence we should’ve been in a fricken playoff position.


Stoops boot lickers- really can’t believe any exist anymore but you and bbinsanity must be his lovers or something- use that vacated season as a “but but, what about…”. When in reality it’s THE most telling season of just how bad stoops is as a coach. For example: Indiana just had A very similar schedule to our NINE win season. And a similar team to us- not elite but better than middling teams and they did what they needed to do. We needed a miracle to beat the moccasins.

Suck off stoops all you want but it only makes you look like a moron.

That was about as 2024 Indiana Like schedule a team will ever get n sec play.

 

[Bereacat420]

Maclin was "gone" until he wasn't. And the vast majority of portal transfers are players who were shown the door by their former schools. None of those guys are coming back. Gilmore will make the deal that is best for him and what those other players (the ones who actually had a choice; most don't) did is irrelevant to that.

Except he didn’t even enter the portal. He waited till Dane and barion made their decisions. Gilmore waited till the last minute to enter. 99% chance he had his destination b4 enterIng

 

[Bereacat420]

That was about as 2024 Indiana Like schedule a team will ever get n sec play.

Texas had it this year. Actually prob easier than UKs

 

[3632]

If he gets back to the offense that won us 10 games then I’ll take it. Were you all pissed when we were running it down people’s throats and winning Citrus Bowls?

2021 we won because we had our only functional passing offense. In 2018 we weren’t running it down throats we were just playing ‘don’t turn it over’ football because that was an elite defense with our only top level pass rush during stoops time thanks to Josh Allen.