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Giles down to final five. Kentucky included.

K isn't the first to copy Cals recruiting style, lol EVERY COACH HAS ALWAYS TRIEDTO GET THE CREAM OF THE CROP! This is my pet leave. As if coaches have been turning down top players because they might leave early LMFAO! Every COACH, even the ones like Pitino tries to get the best players feels he has a chance with, just like K has done all his career, with the only difference being that he's been coming out of his slump do to his pumping his status as the USA coach along with his NC! Just look at EVERY top player and they are being recruit by every coach who thinks he has a 1/1,000,000 chance at lending them, and by many who don't even think they have a chance. Anyone who believes that these coaches using " philosophy" as an excuse to explain getting creamed year after year by Cal, so they say they don't like that philosophy, however they tried to get all the players that Cal got with zero success! It's truly amazing how even our own fans buy that pathetic exuse about them not trying to land top 10 players so that they could take far inferior talent to have them stay longer. As if every recruiting season these coaches our truly happy that they didn't get e top 10 recuits and 5 top 25 recruits because they have to replace all those AA! Please people, WAKE UP, Coach K never stoped trying to get elite players, they just recently got their mojo back, and EVERY HC out their would do the same exact thing if they could.

Sorry about the rant lol, it truly bugs me when sssooo many people act like Cal was the only HC to have the guts to take full classes of uher talented kids.
 
Reasonable post.

Don't know about Giles being me first... I don't know him that well. As you say, I am sure K can iron that out. Duke usually doesn't have problems with attitudes... K runs the program with an iron fist, and there isn't a lot of leeway allowed.McRoberts never seemed to buy in, and there were problems with the a Rivers team, but generally they are few and far between. The Brand thing was completely embarrassing.

Again, the K/Cal comparisons just aren't valid yet. First, K never dismissed a group of players to make room for his own players. Second, K has had exactly one season with more than a single OAD, and of the three only one was really expected. I assume he will start having more of them, although this next season doesn't seem likely for that to happen (likely only Ingram). I think the Giles/Tatum class will be the second class from K to have more than a single OAD. And the two coaches just don't approach it the same way. Cal has been repeatedly explicit that NBA and individual success are two of his key driving forces. K has been repeatedly explicit that Duke success is his driving force. While some of that is simply marketing of the program, I do think the two have some fundamental differences in how the two approach things. So I just don't see this as a "Well now K is just like Cal" thing.

As a Duke fan, it is interesting having a team where you are suddenly missing so much. But K hasn't seemed like he will be doing huge, repeated classes of one and dones. If he does, then yes, sustaining it will be tough, but k has a lot of experience with bringing in three and four year guys to teach the culture and provide stability. But yes, sustaining excellence is DAMN hard, OAD or not. In the twenty years since I graduated from Duke, K has done a pretty good job.

Agreed on Smith.

And UNC should never get another player again. Cheating sacks of crap... Now trying to throw the women's team under the bus, because, you know, decades of cheating is TOTALLY a about women's b-ball.

Why? Why? Why are you trying to be cute or coy on the cats board. Enjoy, last season. I hope Duke falls flat this year.
 
Hey guys I'm from Winston-Salem, NC and Harry is a great kid!! A yessir and no sir type kid who doesn't hesitate to sign or take pictures whenever he's stopped. When I've spoken to him he says he's wide open amongst the schools. His family are Tarheel fans and they have a shot but it would be a lock if not for their troubles. Duke is mentioned as the favorite but the prevailing thought is he'd be best served with you guys. But everyone around here is hoping Danny Manning can pull it off and keep Harry home!! Wake made Dennis Smith final cut and we all have our fingers crossed. He'd have a Chris Paul impact with Wake where you guys are gonna be fine with or without Harry. Just my two cents and I'm a HUGE fan of Cal!!!
 
Is this the Duke board? The way some of these guys are slinging around insults, you'd think it was. Getting about time for some house cleaning. Only respectable one is Gastineau.
 
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