Murray didn't shoot enough!
GET MURRAY OUT OF THE GAME!
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This is a fallacy for every shot he hit he turn the ball over make stupid foul or defensive breakdown leading to points. Murray has the skills but he needs to sharpen the mental game big time
Cal just stated post game he has been yelling at Murray to drive the ball in traffic and said he is getting their. Guess he wants the D to foul him or open up a big for an oop.
Oops actually require passing the ball. When Jamal drives into traffic he either loses he ball or throws up a wild shot. He is instant offense when he is playing within the offense (when we actually run something that looks like an offense) and coming off screens or using screens for jumpers.
OP I agree, yet disagree. As other's have said what's the alternative. Despite his liabilities and obvious weaknesses he does have the ability to fill it up at times. Cal gave Mulder a shot tonight, and he played hard, but he doesn't have the ability to "go off" on a team like Murray does even if he was the best rebounder on the team tonight. That's a guy we may yet see some really good things from. Perhaps not this year, but in the one's to come.
You're insane. I wish he would be more selfish. Him and Ulis are the only ones that give a F
Terrible thread. With all of our issues and the OP chooses Murray, at least Zaytoven the Murray Troll liked all the posts.
Our fanbase is laughable.
Our fanbase is laughable.
Outside of Ulis, NO ONE gives 100% effort
Outside of Ulis, Murray is the ONLY OFFENSIVE threat
If you can't score, you can't win
What is laughable is how posters like to get so defensive when you call out an obvious issue. I do not have a problem with Murray shooting the ball because he is our best scorer. What I do have a problem with is Murray driving into 2-3 guys and chucking up a shot or turning it over due to dribbling too much when he has a man wide open on the wing. Cal allows Murray more freedom then anyone due to his ability to score, but there comes a time when you have to sit a young player down and say "Settle Down!" when they start playing how Murray was playing before that time out.
How in the heck does anyone know if Cal was sitting him to rest him before the timeout or if he sat him due to his 2 minute horrible stretch of play? Did anyone personally ask Cal? As soon as Murray made the boneheaded turnover and foul Cal yanked him. He did not have someone ready at the table...he pulled from the bench after Murray made the foul.
It is laughable how posters like yourself believe that every UK player and Coach is free from criticism. Check my record and you will see I have never been a fly by poster or one who only jumps on after a loss to pile it on. I give my opinion on play good or bad and some of you can't handle it. Just because a kid is our best scorer doesn't mean he is free from criticism or from sitting the bench...which IN MY OPINION is what Cal did last night whether some of you "basketball mind reading experts" want to believe it or not.
I dont think you are flyby by any means.
And this comment "It is laughable how posters like yourself believe that every UK player and Coach is free from criticism." makes you look very silly when it comes to me. I have 100 posts in the last 24 hours, none of which are complimentary.
With all of our issues for you to come out and slam one of the 2 glimmering hopes this team has is a bit odd.
I dont care why Murray was taken out. You overreacted way too early on the wrong guy. We had tons of suck last night, Murray's few issues are not even on the radar with the awfulness we witnessed.
This team doesn't have much potential if it doesn't develop a perimeter game and unless Hawkins can stay in the game on the defensive end the only way to do that is to have Murray and Ulis keep shooting until they get out of this season long slump. I don't care how many they miss they need to keep chucking it up there.
He's young. He makes dumb mistakes, but he hoops.
He's not the problem.
The problem is our front court being zombies.
He's not the problem.
The problem is our front court being zombies.
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Without Murray this is an NIT team at best .. not clear we could have a winning record without him
My apologies on the "like you" comment. After reading many posts in this thread I just ASSumed (lol) that you were in he same group of blind defenders. I don't think I jumped the gun considering it was late in the second half before I posted. Yes Murray is one of only two bright spots, but I cannot stand selfish play as a coach myself and absolutely cannot stand it watching a game that we pulled close enough at one point to have a chance to win. Murray is a great player, but anyone who watches the game can see his "flashes" of selfish play and to start that stuff when you have a chance just irks me. If not for him it would have been an even larger pounding, but he has to learn when to take over and when to let it come to him....and he will considering this is an 18/19 year old kid.
Murray and Ulis are the only two players on this team worth a damn most games...so do your thing Jamal I say.
OP, its clear you have an anger issue, but to direct it at Murray is beyond dumb. Yell at Marcus Lee who fouled out without scoring. Yell at Alex Poythress, who again began playing like Jane instead of Tarzan. Yell at Skal for being a ladies reproductive organ. Yell at Briscoe for going 1-7 on FT's. Yell at Derek Willis for no defense and one handed rebounds. Heck, yell at Cal for not trying Wynard inside (and Cal tried to put him in Ole Miss game with 10 seconds left so you can't call 'redshirt')
Murray was not the problem last night.
Lee stumbling around like Helen Keller and playing only 5 minutes was a much bigger problem.
Lee stumbling around like Helen Keller and playing only 5 minutes was a much bigger problem.
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