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Ft. Campbell, KY schools removing books, billboards, etc. about slavery, Civil Rights Movement, Black History, etc.

Fake news. It's like when they claimed there wasn't going to be lessons taught on tuskege airmen anymore, which is a lie. It's self sabotage and everyone knows this. Dei is big business and big salaries...they are mad they're losing it.

It's not hard, getting rid of dei is not removing history, civil rights, etc. DEI is giving ppl positions when you remove qualifications and turn identity into the qualifications.

Let me make it even more easy to understand. There were endless non white women who were qualified to be selected for vp...Susan Rice for example. Kamala Harris was picked for vp, not bc she's qualified, but simply bc she checked boxes. Unless ppl are actually trying to claim she's solid, she's the definition of falling forward.

Another example. Ketanji Brown Jackson IS qualified. Yet, through DEI, how many ppl said, well she just got selected because of her identity? Which ended up hurting her qualifications that stand alone on merit. Not to mention, forget white ppl, how many badass Asian judges that busted their ass, weren't even considered bc they didn't check the qualifying boxes...not only is it racist, but that's what DEI does
 
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Nice to be GBI (God Blessed Independent). I'm beholden to NO man that's for sure.
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Me either. I certainly wouldn't worship one and buy clothes with their name on it.

I see you're getting dog-piled for not being full MAGA. I fully understand. I'm not a raging leftist by any means but am on this board because I don't like the leader of the movement or much of what it represents.

This GOP ain't my daddy's GOP, nor the GOP I was a part of in the late 90s and early 2000s. The Dems are nutjobs too who are just as whacked out as the GOP just in different ways.

I just miss normalcy and balance. I liked it better when you didn't know your neighbor's politics and religion, and Democrats and Republicans could be friends without having to pick a side and choose an enemy. My social positions are always liberal because I am live and let live to the fullest, but also like a balanced budget, lower taxes, strong defense and the right to bear arms. It is possible to exist outside of the cults.
 
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Fake news. It's like when they claimed there wasn't going to be lessons taught on tuskege airmen anymore, which is a lie. It's self sabotage and everyone knows this. Dei is big business and big salaries...they are mad they're losing it.

It's not hard, getting rid of dei is not removing history, civil rights, etc. DEI is giving ppl positions when you remove qualifications and turn identity into the qualifications.

Let me make it even more easy to understand. There were endless non white women who were qualified to be selected for vp...Susan Rice for example. Kamala Harris was picked for vp, not bc she's qualified, but simply bc she checked boxes. Unless ppl are actually trying to claim she's solid, she's the definition of falling forward.

Another example. Ketanji Brown Jackson IS qualified. Yet, through DEI, how many ppl said, well she just got selected because of her identity? Which ended up hurting her qualifications that stand alone on merit. Not to mention, forget white ppl, how many badass Asian judges that busted their ass, weren't even considered bc they didn't check the qualifying boxes...not only is it racist, but that's what DEI does
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Not fake news. Several teachers from Ft Campbell have mentioned this is in the works.
 
MegaBlue05 said:
Me either. I certainly wouldn't worship one and buy clothes with their name on it.

I see you're getting dog-piled for not being full MAGA. I fully understand. I'm not a raging leftist by any means but am on this board because I don't like the leader of the movement or much of what it represents.

This GOP ain't my daddy's GOP, nor the GOP I was a part of in the late 90s and early 2000s. The Dems are nutjobs too who are just as whacked out as the GOP just in different ways.

I just miss normalcy and balance. I liked it better when you didn't know your neighbor's politics and religion, and Democrats and Republicans could be friends without having to pick a side and choose an enemy. My social positions are always liberal because I am live and let live to the fullest, but also like a balanced budget, lower taxes, strong defense and the right to bear arms. It is possible to exist outside of the cults.
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Exactly. I used to enjoy watching Crossfire growing up. I LIKED politics. I enjoyed Paul Fienbaum and Tucker Carlson. It was always about discussing ideas for bettering America without vitriol. Now it’s so dogmatic p, up if you disagree with a side you’re going to Hell.
 
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They’ve pulled books about slavery and the Civil Rights movement. Those are parts of American history. What problem do you have with those being read about and taught?
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This has been explained to you several times: DEI is not American History.

If you can show me something from the government stating that slavery or the civil rights movement can’t be taught, post it here.

If somebody is pulling or removing those subjects, that’s their misjudgment, not mine.
 
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JumperJack said:
This has been explained to you several times: DEI is not American History.

If you can show me something from the government stating that slavery or the civil rights movement can’t be taught, post it here.

If somebody is pulling or removing those subjects, that’s their misjudgment, not mine.
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You are being disingenuous- and dodging my question. Yes or no. Is teaching about slavery or the Civil RIghts Movement DEI?
 
So reparations wouldn't make sense if Slavery etc was eliminated from the history books?
Loophole ftw

Shhesh what a slap to the face of slaves who sacrificed and other black leaders who paved the way for others.
 
bbncal02 said:
Is it fact or not? It seems he's getting the contract. I could give a shit less why. It's a conflict of interest. While he's working FOR the government, he shouldn't be getting ANY contracts that further his own interests.

"Quit believe what Facebook says"

Oh the absolute IRONY of that.
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Curious if you were upset when the Biden admin decided to purchase $400 million cyber trucks and entered into that contract, along with other EVs, or if it’s just now that Musk is uncovering so much other government waste?

There’s a bit of a difference in Musks companies selling goods and services the private market wants to the government, like using his spaceships to rescue astronauts, and the government spending billions of dollars to convince kids in Zimbabwe to cut their dicks off while the director of the “N”GO makes a million dollars a year for nothing.
 
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Curious if you were upset when the Biden admin decided to purchase $400 million cyber trucks and entered into that contract, along with other EVs, or if it’s just now that Musk is uncovering so much other government waste?

There’s a bit of a difference in Musks companies selling goods and services the private market wants to the government, like using his spaceships to rescue astronauts, and the government spending billions of dollars to convince kids in Zimbabwe to cut their dicks off while the director of the “N”GO makes a million dollars a year for nothing.
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No because he wasn’t working directly for the government at that time. He’s acting as an auditor and is getting a contract that benefits him while auditing other programs. That screams conflict of interest. I have no qualms with stuff being cut. But it does bother me a bit when you’re cutting stuff but then push for things that personally benefit you.
 
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No because he wasn’t working directly for the government at that time. He’s acting as an auditor and is getting a contract that benefits him while auditing other programs. That screams conflict of interest. I have no qualms with stuff being cut. But it does bother me a bit when you’re cutting stuff but then push for things that personally benefit you.
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What do you mean pushing for things that benefit him? They’ve said the state department has no plans to go through with the purchase. It was the Biden admin that planned the purchase of $400 million of armed EVs.
 
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What do you mean pushing for things that benefit him? They’ve said the state department has no plans to go through with the purchase. It was the Biden admin that planned the purchase of $400 million of armed EVs.
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Then I missed that news. Last I saw the deal was still planned to proceed.
 
Ron Mehico said:
Feel like Fort Campbell is going the extreme response here imo. But at the same time I do t really give a shit and this is the exact type of nonsense that everyone pays attention to and focuses on instead of important issues that actually effect the people of this country.
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It seems like someone wanted this story so they responded in an extreme way to the EO.
 
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Like renaming bodies of water while grocery prices skyrocket? The problem is the current administration is making a lot of noise about small things. And I'm not sure exactly why.
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I would ask who is making a lot of noise about renaming a body of water? Is it really the administration or all of the people who run around with their hair on fire over everything?
 
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Then I missed that news. Last I saw the deal was still planned to proceed.
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A State Department spokesperson told Forbes Thursday there are “no current plans” to move forward with the $400 million armored EVs contract, noting the procurement forecast “should have been a generic entry ‘electric vehicle manufacturer’” without the mention of Tesla.

The Biden administration asked the State Department last year to “explore interest from private companies to produce armored electric vehicles,” according to the spokesperson, who added the agency only “received interest” from a single company for the project.

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Elon Musk Denies US Government's Possible $400 Million Deal To Buy Musk's Tesla Cybertrucks—Here's What To Know

A State Department spokesperson told Forbes the department has “no current plans” to move forward with the potential contract, which was initiated under the Biden administration.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
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I hear ya and agree. The right was tore up over censorship on social media and well, they had every right to be. Months before the election some districts banned books because the author wasn't straight and the story included a gay relationship. Some adults were so uncomfortable they transferred their fears onto youth. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone say "why ain't there a White History Month?! Nah, can't do that because (insert some weird, slightly racist old timey view)." I recently had someone I know say they didn't like Michelle Obama and called her "monkey face." It's incredibly gross but obvious some view learning about slavery, civil rights, or having pride and being comfortable with one's self as some sort of negative. So now we get to play the immature game of pretending these things don't exist/banning things to make a few in this country feel more comfortable. In the meantime, DEI is going to be the excuse for anything negative, including the air tragedy in DC. I mean, it is what it is.
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I think the issue of “history months” is out of control, but also believe there is a legit question from a psycho-social perspective as to whether young children bombarded by “history months” may perceive not being included as something detrimental to their well-being. Adults can philosophize about whether white males should see white males praised during a month and complain that this country’s history has been all about white males, but a grade school boy may internalize that differently. The culture has done a lot over the past 40 years to minimize boys (the education system veered toward little girls and understandably, but did not perceive the ramifications of that on boys, as example). The extremism in this country is not rational. I think the article that initiated this thread is an example of that. I think normal people want actual history, the good, the bad, and the ugly, fairly taught in and out of schools. I also don’t think rational people equate the foundations of DEI with that concept. The administration praised the civil rights laws when the EO was entered. Not sure the story captured that fact.
 
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Weird how these programs, many of which have been in place for 25-50 years, didn’t become racist against the white man until a person came along running on the white guy grievances platform, which is admittedly quite popular with its intended audience.

I also think you might be confusing DEI with critical race theory. Can you link DEI policies or provide company names for any company that explicitly says "white people are inherently racist and oppressive" in its policies or training materials? CRT theorizes white systems are inherently racist and oppressive, not white individuals. I learned CRT at a very intro level in 2001 in a 300-level sociology course, so I could be misremembering. But I am pretty sure it's the theory that white men rigged the game in this country to benefit themselves over anyone else.

End of the day, if these programs gotta go, they gotta go. I know they positively affected white women the most, and it might negatively affect minorities, the disabled veteran amputee, or the deaf/blind/mentally challenged person seeking employment or housing protections. But it won't hurt me, the straight, white, able-bodied male (and I'm pretty sure that's the point).

The good thing about all of this theater is we no longer hire based on race, gender or any other kind of identity nonsense. We only hire based on merit and qualifications.

I am so happy the president appointed a highly qualified, lifelong educator with a passion for educating children as Secretary of Education and not some perverted billionaire wrestling promoter's wife who happened to be longtime donors to and pals of the president. That would be like DEI for rich people and could be seen as hypocrisy.
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I think you need to revisit your history. Focus on constitutional law. Government preference programs have been the subject of litigation for decades. The rationale at one time was that something wrong could still be right to rectify some lingering remnant of historical wrongs. The courts are realizing that if that approach was ever correct, it is no longer valid.
 
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That’s the point of all this. Learning about civil rights and past atrocities such as Jim Crow and slavery will hurt certain students’ parents’ feelings, so we’re white washing everything and pretending it didn’t happen, so when it happens again no one will be like “how could we let this happen?”

I still remember being horrified when learning about the Civil Rights Movement in grade school in the mid 80s and that wound was still pretty fresh then but it was taught as if were 300 years ago. I never understood why people who looked like me were such assholes to other people based on skin color. I understand now.

The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth, Latino Heritage Month, Asian Heritage Month. I’m sure Columbus Day and President’s Day are still OK. (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...k-day-black-history-month-other-celebrations/)

Some of us desperately wanted this. Others did not. We will see how it goes.
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This is a knee jerk reaction to what should be minor changes. I don't understand why people go to extremes just about every time when it comes to correcting problems. It happens everywhere. My old office would do the same thing when a disgruntled customer who did not get what they wanted (usually going against regulations) and would give a bad review. We would have a meeting telling us that we handled the situation wrong (1400 atta boys and one aww sh*t wipes the slate clean) and that we must now do this (whatever they came up with). My workers would complain to me (the office lead) that the new directives put a strain on work, and I would just tell them to wait a week or two and we would be back to status quo. I could do that because our managers where hardly ever around so, I did what I wanted. Many people will not do that so, changes seem to stick until new management arrives.

While going overboard happens a lot with the left these days (which is why Trump won this time) it is not exclusive to one side and the right needs to temper their response with a little more wisdom than this. I agree that this should not be... The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth. Holidays regardless of who they represent must remain. However, whenever we honor one specific race with a month, we invite hate and anger. Every month should be for everyone and not just focusing on one race. We should be beyond that now. We must seek common ground. There is a limit
 
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Fake news. It's like when they claimed there wasn't going to be lessons taught on tuskege airmen anymore, which is a lie. It's self sabotage and everyone knows this. Dei is big business and big salaries...they are mad they're losing it.

It's not hard, getting rid of dei is not removing history, civil rights, etc. DEI is giving ppl positions when you remove qualifications and turn identity into the qualifications.

Let me make it even more easy to understand. There were endless non white women who were qualified to be selected for vp...Susan Rice for example. Kamala Harris was picked for vp, not bc she's qualified, but simply bc she checked boxes. Unless ppl are actually trying to claim she's solid, she's the definition of falling forward.

Another example. Ketanji Brown Jackson IS qualified. Yet, through DEI, how many ppl said, well she just got selected because of her identity? Which ended up hurting her qualifications that stand alone on merit. Not to mention, forget white ppl, how many badass Asian judges that busted their ass, weren't even considered bc they didn't check the qualifying boxes...not only is it racist, but that's what DEI does
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lol KBJ

A better example was the lesbian LA fire chief. She actually seemed semi competent, but everyone assumed she was totally incompetent because they had a policy of just hiring lesbians.
 
Also, Juneteenth, lol.

Kudos to you guys sneaking in that extra summer day off during Covid, but I don’t think the country is going to suffer if we go back in time to 2019 before anyone knew what the hell it was.
 
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This is a knee jerk reaction to what should be minor changes. I don't understand why people go to extremes just about every time when it comes to correcting problems. It happens everywhere. My old office would do the same thing when a disgruntled customer who did not get what they wanted (usually going against regulations) and would give a bad review. We would have a meeting telling us that we handled the situation wrong (1400 atta boys and one aww sh*t wipes the slate clean) and that we must now do this (whatever they came up with). My workers would complain to me (the office lead) that the new directives put a strain on work, and I would just tell them to wait a week or two and we would be back to status quo. I could do that because our managers where hardly ever around so, I did what I wanted. Many people will not do that so, changes seem to stick until new management arrives.

While going overboard happens a lot with the left these days (which is why Trump won this time) it is not exclusive to one side and the right needs to temper their response with a little more wisdom than this. I agree that this should not be... The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth. Holidays regardless of who they represent must remain. However, whenever we honor one specific race with a month, we invite hate and anger. Every month should be for everyone and not just focusing on one race. We should be beyond that now. We must seek common ground. There is a limit
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Black History Month has been around for nearly 50 years with very little issue when Ford set it forth. This seems petty tbh. I wonder if Women's History Month next month will cause issues? Now, that will be an interesting watch if that once gets cancelled.
 
chroix said:
Everybody is getting run through both sides propaganda cycles and it’s very effective. Effective at tearing the country apart.
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This is how I've felt for at least 5 years. As I've said numerous times, I'm an independent. I will vote for either party if they have good ideas, decent leaders, etc.

Sadly, we haven't seen much statesmenship in a long, long time.
 
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Christian County Now is a digital newspaper/news website focused on providing trusted local journalism in Christian County, KY. Established in 2023, it’s part of 5 Star Media Group, a dominant radio operation in the Clarksville and Hopkinsville areas, and owned by Saga Communications.

It's weird that a company called Saga Communications of North Carolina, LLC received a $47k grant from FEMA in FY25.

https://www.usaspending.gov/recipient/90e0940c-ae57-2702-63ac-1244174a986a-C/latest
 
Appreciate the mods for allowing this political subject to be discussed in a separate thread. I’ve enjoyed both sides of the discussion. Separate political threads should be allowed more often.
 
Hard for anyone to expect any administration to do anything about inflation in three weeks.

And, tbh, I don't have a problem with the goal of DOGE which is to identify programs and funding that can and should be cut. I just wish Musk/Trump weren't taking the Bull in the China Shop approach (probably wishful thinking on my part given Trumps past history) including a bunch of stuff that has been stopped by Judges, at least so far.

If DOGE would identify specific items (which it has) and present it to Congress for action, e.g., disbanding USAID or folding it into the State Dept, and then let Congress do its job (probably even more wishful thinking on my part), I personally would welcome the effort. Reps and Trump won the election, they have the votes, I don't know why they don't just run it through Congress and pass some legislation adopting recommendations from DOGE.
 
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Hard for anyone to expect any administration to do anything about inflation in three weeks.

And, tbh, I don't have a problem with the goal of DOGE which is to identify programs and funding that can and should be cut. I just wish Musk/Trump weren't taking the Bull in the China Shop approach (probably wishful thinking on my part given Trumps past history) including a bunch of stuff that has been stopped by Judges, at least so far.

If DOGE would identify specific items (which it has) and present it to Congress for action, e.g., disbanding USAID or folding it into the State Dept, and then let Congress do its job (probably even more wishful thinking on my part), I personally would welcome the effort. Reps and Trump won the election, they have the votes, I don't know why they don't just run it through Congress and pass some legislation adopting recommendations from DOGE.
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This. I have no problem reducing waste. It's a good thing. The problem is we're using a Howitzer to go bird hunting 200K people are now out of work in ONE week. That's going to hurt a slowing job market like crazy. Companies are already not hiring at a decent clip. Now 200k from all across country will be job hunting. Gonna be a nightmare.
 
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Absolutely not. You are sorely confused. I don’t think you have any idea what the problems are with DEI.
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And I think you think DEI solely means "white people bad". I'm not the world's biggest proponent of all of it, however, it's also not the insane boogeyman folks have made it out to be. DEI includes neurodiversity as well; veteran's programs were also brought into DEI initiatives. Guess what? Some of those have now been potentially put on the chopping block.

The entire issue is when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
 
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And I think you think DEI solely means "white people bad".
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“To give an example of how DEI is actually practiced, consider the following training materials from University of Colorado Boulder’s DEI program.

The basic predicate of CU Boulder’s DEI program is that “Black, Indigenous and People of Color,” or “BIPOC,” students are failing because of “white supremacy culture.”

What is white supremacy culture? According to CU Boulder’s DEI documentation, it includes “individualism,” “perfectionism,” “a sense of urgency,” “worship of the written word,” and “objectivity.” These traits are supposedly vestiges of “whiteness” and unavailable to racial minorities—an unintentionally bigoted attitude.

Next, CU Boulder’s DEI bureaucrats would have you engage in a 21-day “Racial Equity Habit Building Challenge.”

One of the resources included in this program is a guide on “How to Be a Better White Person.” The document supplied a protocol on how to accomplish this task. Step one: “Realize you’re white.” Step two: “Recognize your privilege.” Step three: “Know things.” Finally, from a related resource, instructions on how to be an “ally” to racial minorities: “Transfer the benefits of your privilege to those who lack it”; “amplify the voices of the oppressed before your own”; “acknowledge that, even though you feel pain, the conversation is not about you.”

This is not the language of an academic program but of an abusive relationship.

Unfortunately, the language of DEI has also taken hold in CU Boulder’s curriculum. For example, the university has recently included a course on “Critical Whiteness Studies.” The syllabus is replete with activist terms, such as “institutionalized whiteness,” “white privilege,” and “white fragility.” The basic concept is that “whiteness” is an irreducibly malicious essence, loaded with ancestral guilt.“

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Root of the problem? Barack Hussein Obama. Liberalism ruins everything it touches: the USA is not exempt.

Dems ran roughshod over the country in 12 of the last 16 years: now comes the pushback. You fvcking idiots told us Biden was coherent, inflation was temporary, and everything was fine.

Gonna be a looong 4 years for you azzholes: hope you leave the country.
 
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