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Fox getting 163 million for 5 years. Another report says 195 million

I am glad to see a former UK player do well; but let’s put this in perspective.
We pay some millions on top of millions to play a game but yet we pay those who save our lives, protect us from harm, risk their lives for us and we reward them with $50-60,000 a year.
Wonder if a front line nurse dealing with COVID patients, a policeman, firefighter, or a soldier stationed in the Gulf region would like it to get paid more?
Just saying this to put things in perspective folks.
And then we listen to these highly paid ball players lecture us middle class on how we should live our lives.
Glad to see a UK player make it. But after seeing and listening to so many of these players this past year with what all has gone on, screw the pro leagues.
 
I am glad to see a former UK player do well; but let’s put this in perspective.
We pay some millions on top of millions to play a game but yet we pay those who save our lives, protect us from harm, risk their lives for us and we reward them with $50-60,000 a year.
Wonder if a front line nurse dealing with COVID patients, a policeman, firefighter, or a soldier stationed in the Gulf region would like it to get paid more?
Just saying this to put things in perspective folks.
And then we listen to these highly paid ball players lecture us middle class on how we should live our lives.
Glad to see a UK player make it. But after seeing and listening to so many of these players this past year with what all has gone on, screw the pro leagues.

yes but this is capitalism. They made a bunch of money bc they bring in a lot of money. They are valued highly by their company and compensated accordingly.
 
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And the alternative is that billionaire owners who don't even play the game would just get even more of the money

yep. I mean I don’t disagree that it seems a little silly in the grand scheme of things but a lot of things are not “fair”. I might make 40k a year as a state employee but I live a simple modest life and can pay my bills. I’m aware I’m in a better spot than a lot of people and that perspective keeps me from worrying too much about that kind of stuff. Happy for these guys who put in work and make their dreams come true
 
yep. I mean I don’t disagree that it seems a little silly in the grand scheme of things but a lot of things are not “fair”. I might make 40k a year as a state employee but I live a simple modest life and can pay my bills. I’m aware I’m in a better spot than a lot of people and that perspective keeps me from worrying too much about that kind of stuff. Happy for these guys who put in work and make their dreams come true

I get you. My fiance is a teacher, and she's grossly underpaid and her school is grossly underfunded. She takes money out of our personal accounts to make sure her students have all the tools they need, and she does a helluva job. I'd put her up against anybody in the field.

But people aren't lining up around the block to watch her fill the minds of 5 year olds with wonder and knowledge. It is what it is. The market for athletes is what it is. And I'd argue they provide a meaningful a service. Don't take for granted how entertainment, however you find it, enriches your life. It's a tough row to hoe, day to day life. Getting that break from it, I believe, is necessary.
 
I am glad to see a former UK player do well; but let’s put this in perspective.
We pay some millions on top of millions to play a game but yet we pay those who save our lives, protect us from harm, risk their lives for us and we reward them with $50-60,000 a year.
Wonder if a front line nurse dealing with COVID patients, a policeman, firefighter, or a soldier stationed in the Gulf region would like it to get paid more?
Just saying this to put things in perspective folks.
And then we listen to these highly paid ball players lecture us middle class on how we should live our lives.
Glad to see a UK player make it. But after seeing and listening to so many of these players this past year with what all has gone on, screw the pro leagues.

These are socialist perspectives. Trying to impose some sense of equity among perceived job skills and titles. Economies at their roots are capitalist in nature. Fox is expecting what the market will bear. The market paid based on the value it perceives. Further, if there were 1000’s with Fox’s skill set then competition would drive down the prices. The salary is driven by demand versus supply.

The problem here is not pro sports. The problem, if there is one, is that people clamor for the entertainment that pro sports supplies. This creates demand with very deep pockets. Would you dictate the will of the people to levelize salaries according to your sensibilities?
 
I am glad to see a former UK player do well; but let’s put this in perspective.
We pay some millions on top of millions to play a game but yet we pay those who save our lives, protect us from harm, risk their lives for us and we reward them with $50-60,000 a year.
Wonder if a front line nurse dealing with COVID patients, a policeman, firefighter, or a soldier stationed in the Gulf region would like it to get paid more?
Just saying this to put things in perspective folks.
And then we listen to these highly paid ball players lecture us middle class on how we should live our lives.
Glad to see a UK player make it. But after seeing and listening to so many of these players this past year with what all has gone on, screw the pro leagues.

Isn’t this really just an argument that those industries need better/some union representation?
 
Won’t work. They just downsize to cut the cost. A budget is a budget.

True in some cases but not all. Traveling nurses are making tons more money if they work high risk areas. There’s always more flexibility if workers have leverage. It might end up in higher prices but there are plenty of examples where unions have increased wages.
 
I am glad to see a former UK player do well; but let’s put this in perspective.
We pay some millions on top of millions to play a game but yet we pay those who save our lives, protect us from harm, risk their lives for us and we reward them with $50-60,000 a year.
Wonder if a front line nurse dealing with COVID patients, a policeman, firefighter, or a soldier stationed in the Gulf region would like it to get paid more?
Just saying this to put things in perspective folks.
And then we listen to these highly paid ball players lecture us middle class on how we should live our lives.
Glad to see a UK player make it. But after seeing and listening to so many of these players this past year with what all has gone on, screw the pro leagues.
Booooooo.
The free market determines what these guys are paid. Good for them. I'm glad they're using they're given abilities to get that money.
Almost all those jobs you just mentioned, aside from Healthcare workers, are public employees. Can you imagine what our taxes would look like if we paid just police officers the league veteran minimum? Now add the other first responders and our military.
When it comes down to it, it's not that these people are so rich and telling you how to live, it's that you disagree with what they say. We have a billionaire president who grew up in NYC and knows jack about what it's like to live in the South, yet so many have no problem with him telling us how to live.
You can't have it both ways.
 
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True in some cases but not all. Traveling nurses are making tons more money if they work high risk areas. There’s always more flexibility if workers have leverage. It might end up in higher prices but there are plenty of examples where unions have increased wages.

Actually, I agree in principle but there are a few problems with your statement. Union negotiators have won some moderate increases in wages and benefits. However this thread is in the context of Fox’s contract. No union will win a package for that sort of increase without extraordinary circumstances like those encountered in the sports market.

Your analogy with the traveling nurse is an excellent illustration of this point. In that case it’s not the union, but the high demand, limited supply of the medical skill set in the high risk area. Fox’s example is a similar circumstance carried to extreme.
 
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While I agree that athletes and celebrities are grossly overpaid in comparison to those brought up the only way to fix that is with socialism which I am strongly against as it has never worked in our planets history and never will.

what I would be in favor of is cutting the salaries of senators and Congress and giving that money to the paychecks of military, ems, public school teachers, and the military. Not their general budgets, but their salaries.
 
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While I agree that athletes and celebrities are grossly overpaid in comparison to those brought up the only way to fix that is with socialism which I am strongly against as it has never worked in our planets history and never will.

what I would be in favor of is cutting the salaries of senators and Congress and giving that money to the paychecks of military, ems, public school teachers, and the military. Not their general budgets, but their salaries.

To play off of an ol' Winnie Churchill quote, "capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others." :p
 
I get you. My fiance is a teacher, and she's grossly underpaid and her school is grossly underfunded. She takes money out of our personal accounts to make sure her students have all the tools they need, and she does a helluva job. I'd put her up against anybody in the field.

But people aren't lining up around the block to watch her fill the minds of 5 year olds with wonder and knowledge. It is what it is. The market for athletes is what it is. And I'd argue they provide a meaningful a service. Don't take for granted how entertainment, however you find it, enriches your life. It's a tough row to hoe, day to day life. Getting that break from it, I believe, is necessary.
Bless your fiance bc teaching is absolutely the least compensated job I think there is. And for you bc you will be in situations I’m sure the high stress and low pay make for some tough days for her which sometimes carries back home. My mom taught kindergarten/1st grade for 30 years and dad taught middle school science for a majority of his career.
Yes I think everyone should have a better understanding how important entertainment is in 2020.
 
Glad to see UK continue the success in the NBA department.

The only time you see certain people clamoring in favor of the free market system is when? Maybe someone can figure the rest out.

The NBA is losing a ton of money. The ratings are never going to recover, and eventually all of these contracts will be a thing of the past.

Aside from the league becoming an activist wing of one party, they live on extreme ends of the spectrum. The consequences from a mindset with tunnel vision for “get all you can, leave LA for Ohio as long as Cleveland offers a couple ice cream vouchers - or the dreaded “join up with 3 other HOF’ers and write the story before a ball is tipped”. There is no middle anymore, no face to a city, little excitement, and ...........politics - Fairly unpopular politics at that.

You can deny that these things matter but eventually the final product will tell the story. Im
Hoping the NBA will figure these things out and be great again because I’m not raising my kids on that trash league in the shape it is.
 
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