ESPN says Duke #1 smh
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It’s not a conspiracy, it’s reality. Duke is the best team in CBB right now. Can they lose, sure. Can we beat them, maybe. But it doesn’t take much time watching them to see they have the best team.
I assume all this emotion is because we want TN to be ranked 1st when we play them, but be honest. You know what you would do if you had to bet your check on TN vs Duke on a neutral floor?
I assume all this emotion is because we want TN to be ranked 1st when we play them, but be honest. You know what you would do if you had to bet your check on TN vs Duke on a neutral floor?
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Nobody else of substance has beat UVA because they haven't played anyone of substance. Their best win is 19th ranked Wisconsin. They get their lofty ranking by playing the slowest basketball since the four corners and holding mediocre and weak teams to 40s. Bennett has never got his perennially elite teams to the Final Four, even when he has NBA talent. None of this goes to Duke's ranking. I'm simply addressing UVA.
Huh? Nope, not correct in the least.
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2019/team-net-sheet?team=Virginia
Damn!! I am sorry I clicked that link. I know better than to click anything espn. GO CATS!!
1. Most athletic (freshmen) does not make a team the best team...this isn't the NBA draft...
2. You make the correct argument against yourself...the way the poll usually works; you don't drop and unless you lose or win playing terribly... (unless Duke is involved)
3. There are more Pro-Duke and Pro-Zion posters on this board that call anyone (that disagrees with their glorious assessment of Duke) morons, idiots, homers, etc.
they will not win the NCAAT...book it
Today's AP Poll:
1. Tennessee
2. Duke
3. Gonzaga
4. Virginia
5. Kentucky
https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll
1. Tennessee
2. Duke
3. Gonzaga
4. Virginia
5. Kentucky
https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll
Tennessee hasn't played a ranked opponent in over 2 months. They've played like 3 all year. Some could argue they should have never been #1 over Duke to begin with.
Duke beat the shit out of us and are clearly the best team in the country when healthy, their A game vs anyone else's.
To try to make some sort of overrated claim about them is nonsense.
Who the frick cares? It's February 11, and UK is in the top 5. Win and you get what you want. Don't win, and it doesn't matter what Duke does. Duke has more quality wins than Tennessee anyway. I think Virginia is a top 5 team, but I still do not trust them in the tournament. I think Kentucky can beat Virginia, but Duke has beaten them twice. Virginia does not do well against athletic wings and point guards, and they are great given the talent level. Duke has Lebron and Durant; that's enough to be the best team in the country. I still don't think they're better than the 99' Duke team (I think is K's best team), but they are better than everyone else. I think Kentucky is as good as anyone not named Duke. I give them a 40% chance to beat Duke now.
True, but Nov 6 has zero to do with these two teams now. The UK team that played on November 6 would be lucky to have a .500 overall record. They almost lost to Southern Illinois. Duke likely beats UK again because of matchup issues, and top-end talent, but the Nov 6 game can almost be thrown out anymore.
Who has Vir beaten? If you say VT or FSU, I'll slap you..They are not a top 7 team
So UVA beating #14 (in NCAA rankings) VA Tech doesn't count but UK beating #15 UL does???
Just want to make sure I got that right.
I despise it, but bluebomb is right, I can't think of one college team in the country that I would wager anything on that I couldn't afford to lose against Duke. If they didn't have that blamed Tre Jones to make it all work it would fall apart, they are head and shoulders above all others. I am only thankful they didn't go 40-0. Tennessee has earned the top spot due to their record but I dont think they could handle Duke, hope if they meet I am proved wrong.
Duke and UVA are good. Outside that I think the ACC doesn't deserve the hype. I don't have a problem with Duke being #1. That was an impressive win the other night. That being said they are not a clear cut #1. There are at least 2 other teams who could be argued for. It'll all shake out.
The fact is, you just don't leapfrog teams simply because you want them to be #1, that's not how this works. Tennessee needs to either lose or have a very ugly win. But they've continue to pass tests, haven't lost since November, and also beat Gonzaga.
Virginia's resume is def slipping with some of there key wins not looking so great now. Tonights game is pretty huge for them, def for UNC in this game.
If you think VT is as good as UL then I don't know what to say...But i don't like either one to make any noise.
With Robinson VT is probably better and could make noise. Without him they are significantly worse.
Here you go:
UVA has beaten (NCAA net rankings Quad 1):
#11, 14, 23, 25, 35, 37 and lost to #2 (twice)
Average Quad 1 win ranking of 24.2
Average loss ranking of 2
UK has beaten :
#9, 15, 20, 29, 29, 41 and lost to #2, 43, 65
Average Quad 1 win ranking of 23.8
Average loss ranking of 36.7
I thought i said not come at me with VT.. They are 1-3 vs top 25 and 3-3 vs top 50 .. They suck.. Winning @UL (UL won @VT) is much better than beating VT at home...If Virginia beats UNC tonight, then I'll believe
Very good post. Refreshing to read a sensible opionon on here. I agree with everything you said.
If you can say that UT doesn't deserve to be #1 because they've played a crap schedule so far, but are totally okay with the Zags being ranked high, then you can't think logically. I'd go so far to say you're pretty stupid. Sauce for the goose.
I agree UVA overrated. They just don't match the top teams athletically imo. Not beating really good teams when it matters.
Nah...there are like 350 teams in D1. Average is probably what you consider complete and utter garbage more or less.
Even we pair it down to the top 100-120. Average is going to be the NIT/NCAA bubble.
We have to go all the way down to an at large team to get close to average having any context which means maybe top 35ish at which point they are only rated as a little above average which I guess is fine by me since I'm not prepared to wage war that Florida St, Louisville, or Maryland are clearly better.
I'm not saying there are no good cases to be made, just that I am not motivated nor compelled by the data to make them. This year once you get to maybe the 3 line and definitely the 4 it is going to be some parity to the 6 or 7 area.
They may have the metrics, but UVA is a System team. Perfect for beating the majority of teams but they are going to struggle against more physical teams who can defend them well. Defend UVA well enough and it's a recipe for defeat.
We've seen this story for several years now. UVA wins a lot of games, gets popped in the tournament, because by and large they just aren't a good offense.
I never said Virginia sucks..I said UK has a better resume... I said VT sucks...Also, go back and read my last sentence...
