Matt Jones with an article on those idiots. The Prof and that Katman derelict
https://kentuckysportsradio.com/1/the-dynasty-defenders-strike-back/
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Matt Jones with an article on those idiots. The Prof and that Katman derelict
https://kentuckysportsradio.com/1/the-dynasty-defenders-strike-back/
If anyone finds one of those videos and could link it I would love to see this dude. Sounds like great quarantine entertainment.
"that the WORST thing that can be done to Kentucky’s national image is to be seen forcing out a successful and well-liked coach for reasons that are deemed to be unrelated to basketball performance. I think most objective viewers of Kentucky basketball believe Tubby to be a great coach and if he is forced out, the reputation of the school and our fan base suffers. If folks really wanted to “defend the dynasty,” they would realize this fact and take a step back and consider the consequences of their actions."
that's the kind of BS Matt Jones was spouting all the time and that attitude fed others to drive their anybody that wants Tubby gone is a racist nonsense. There wasn't anything to their dislike of Tubby other than his performance
and Jones is saying objective viewers believe Tubby to be a great coach. Talk about out of touch.
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Dog Dynasty Defenders all you want but don't support Jones driving a racist agenda against UK fans who were ultimately right about Tubby's performance as a coach.
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his connection was a judge that was close to the program
and he was wrong as much as he was right.
some of these posts about how connected that place was is revisionist history.
Ironically, it was KSR that was providing the fodder for Tubby critics. Go back and read the stuff on AJ Stewart and Marshall Moses. It was damning of Tubby's recruiting approach. MJ seemed to play both sides.
its like the George Carlin bit
when driving everyone in front of you is an idiot, everyone behind you is a maniac
everyone had their limit for when their support for Tubby would end. For those that went before you, they were racists, those that still supported him after you were sunshine pumpers
Its that way with Cal now. He's the greatest coach and you're not a fan if you don't support what he is doing, until he isn't the greatest coach and then no coach is bigger than the program.The line is out there for everyone, its just what tolerance level you have to get there.
At least it appears Jones has either become so big it doesn't matter or he's learned to be more diplomatic in his unqualified support.
One more thing about DD - the irony of their ending is once Tubby left, they really had no reason for being. The single entity that united them the dismissal of Tubby, when gone made them all look at each other and realize some of those guys weren't people you really wanted to be around.
and what created DD? Whatever version of this board was back in the day banning hundreds of UK fans who had the nerve to speak out against the state of the program.
While it was certainly their right to control the speech - it definitely came at a cost - to them and the University they worked so hard to protect.
DD was an oasis for free thought. Katman was following Ricky Nelson's advice. You can't please everyone so you've got to please yourself.
Excellent post. Very well thought out. I singled out one quote because the application is so broad. I recall an election in which the new school board members were elected to stop the building of a new high school But, the contracts were signed by the former board and could not be negated. Those elected no longer had a mission and were on the board for 3 years and did nothing but create problems.
Katman. Some of y’all are too young to know what’s up with DD. Good times.
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I used to post a lot at DD. It was great to have freedom to speak the truth about Tubby and not worry about being banned.
place had some characters
place had some characters
From what I remember of DD, many of its members were arrogant, disrespectful and full of false pride. Several of the comments in this thread confirm that, lol.
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Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored!
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It was a site that was loaded with accurate information based on true connections to the program. Not the stuff we hear today on various sites of “I’m hearing” or information about someone developing a theory from multiple “I’m hearing” sources. Also, for the most part the site was adults with no agenda other than promoting Kentucky Basketball at the highest levels and holding leadership to a level of accountability.
It’s surprising to me that many fans don’t realize there are back room “encouraging conversations” that make the wheels of high level athletic programs turn. It’s no different than any other endeavor, business or politics. The people that have access to that information may share snippets but you won’t hear names and details. People don’t become trusted with info if they run their mouth in general but especially on public message boards. That’s why all the information at dynasty defenders was always so cryptic.
It’s surprising to me that many fans don’t realize there are back room “encouraging conversations” that make the wheels of high level athletic programs turn. It’s no different than any other endeavor, business or politics. The people that have access to that information may share snippets but you won’t hear names and details. People don’t become trusted with info if they run their mouth in general but especially on public message boards. That’s why all the information at dynasty defenders was always so cryptic.
Just curious, but how do you know that any of that is fact? Anyone can write anything on a message board and claim they have connections.
nonsense
from the Donovan to Pitino stories in regards to coaching search to the ever changing recruit we were going to get during Gillispie, it wasn't any better, and probably worse than any other board providing "insider" info
writing cryptic was an attempt to appear connected, while at the same time providing an out during the multiple times the information was just plain wrong. It was also just weird.
DD had some positives in regards to posting freedom, but their opinion of their inside info was inflated to bordering on delusion. Many members stopped posting there because it became so sycophantic toward RR and his insider info.
The "they had Calipari info before anyone else" is a perfect example. Its revisionist.
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What you just said was total bull S***. They did have the best info by far and away. I was here on the board previous to this one. Think I was member 18 here. I was #4 on DD. The sources there were the best, PERIOD. I remember one Friday evening when Billy Donovan had supposedly turned down UK for the job. At 6:30 the next morning it had been posted who reallly was taking the job. The truth was many hated Cal. both here and a lot of places. Jones was one of the worst offenders. He hated everything about Cal. Anyone that suggests that DD did not have a total inside track on not only the HQ position but recruiting after that. The information was pure gold. It would be on this board in 5 mins after it was posted there. There was no "appear to be connected" it was totally wired.
you call it how you see it
but you won't acknowledge all the times the information was wrong, and the handful of people like you that would come out of the woodwork when it was brought up that it was wrong.
The approach was throw a bunch of stuff out there, and whatever stuck you take credit for, and whatever didn't, if you were called on it, then claim the conditions changed.
No different than anywhere else, and certainly not any better.
DD served its purpose putting a spotlight on Tubby that no one else was willing to do. After that it was hit or miss, and it was alot of misses.
but you won't acknowledge all the times the information was wrong, and the handful of people like you that would come out of the woodwork when it was brought up that it was wrong.
The approach was throw a bunch of stuff out there, and whatever stuck you take credit for, and whatever didn't, if you were called on it, then claim the conditions changed.
No different than anywhere else, and certainly not any better.
DD served its purpose putting a spotlight on Tubby that no one else was willing to do. After that it was hit or miss, and it was alot of misses.
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nope
If the posts are still up from back then - go back and see what was said about Donovan, about Pitino, about Rick Barnes.
the RR supporters have selective memory about all that inside info that went nowhere.
I'm sure many people from DD (well many being the 20 or so that still posted regularly there) believe that RR called Calipari before anyone else. He'd be the first to tell you, multiple times and then the RR supporters would be second to tell you , multiple times
to the point that everyone actually believed it.
I said DD had information on Cal before anyone else. You are going down rabbit holes unrelated.
You are conflating.
give me the date/time the news broke on DD by RR
if we're going to get specific about whether it happened or not, then it should be documented. We should be able to see exactly what was written.
With RR or a representative lurking, I'm sure it will be available.
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I have not heard that story. Whoever he or she is I tip my hat. . Maybe that is why Tubby left in the middle of the night
I had to write down a few gems reading all of this BS.
"Toaddy"
"Barnyard"
OK grown adults trying to be cute making up juvenile names of people associated with UK that they hated is good for the fan / schools rep.
"Encouraging conversions"
But of course it is only encouraging if you agree with the witch hunt / gang like mentality. Disagree with anyone wanting a coach or AD fired and you became the hunted or outcast.
"Cryptic"
Post info leaving a out just in case the info is BS and the guess was wrong. Think a modern day insider but not as many naysayers because the site was a cult like club. Like a modern day Dave Kersey.
"Promoting UK basketball to the highest level"
Wanting people fired and calling the people names is definitely promoting UK to the highest level. Especially with media and rival fans reading the garbage. No way that could / would hurt our program they love so much.
In short, it was a bunch of circle jerking, think alike, blow hards that thought their little "club" was really be cool to join and be part of, everyone else was just a follower of the great or plain unwanted outsider. it is exactly why it folded up like a cheap tent. It was made of fake, non quality material, destined to fail. Mostly agenda driven topics for discussion.
"Toaddy"
"Barnyard"
OK grown adults trying to be cute making up juvenile names of people associated with UK that they hated is good for the fan / schools rep.
"Encouraging conversions"
But of course it is only encouraging if you agree with the witch hunt / gang like mentality. Disagree with anyone wanting a coach or AD fired and you became the hunted or outcast.
"Cryptic"
Post info leaving a out just in case the info is BS and the guess was wrong. Think a modern day insider but not as many naysayers because the site was a cult like club. Like a modern day Dave Kersey.
"Promoting UK basketball to the highest level"
Wanting people fired and calling the people names is definitely promoting UK to the highest level. Especially with media and rival fans reading the garbage. No way that could / would hurt our program they love so much.
In short, it was a bunch of circle jerking, think alike, blow hards that thought their little "club" was really be cool to join and be part of, everyone else was just a follower of the great or plain unwanted outsider. it is exactly why it folded up like a cheap tent. It was made of fake, non quality material, destined to fail. Mostly agenda driven topics for discussion.
I have no idea on Cal but my friend, who had became acquainted with Rupps Runts, called me and said that he had just spoken with RR and Tubby was gone. It was a few hours later that the news broke.
It was broken by Cal's inner circle. Thursday, February 26th, 2009. Memphis was playing at UAB. It was during that game. I was a member over there when this happened. I have a photographic memory and laugh at challenges like this.
It was around 8:50 Eastern. Name of thread was Cal is interested. Have a nice day.
Actually it was post
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I'm going to need more than your photographic memory
Give me a screen shot or better yet a link
and lets be clear, Cal is interested isn't exactly a stretch
that's the bs I keep talking about
Cal is intersted, then after Cal takes the job "SEE, SEE ,, we told you!
meanwhile everyone forgets the Donovan want its, they have contacted Pitino to gauge his interest that is posted as well
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well yea
they thought coming over here and posting that wiseman nonsense would actually impress people and prove without a doubt his Nostradamus predictions
and I haven't argued he had inside info on Tubby and as long as you had the weirdo decoder ring, you could figure it out. He clearly had some connection in regards to Tubby being offered a buyout.
after that it was dart /ouija board time.
but I'm sure I've stirred up the hornest nest of DD followers, so I'm done with the thread.
others can hash it out if they care to do so
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If the truth isn't good enough for you I don't know what to tell you. A member of Cal's inner circle posted during a road trip game for Memphis on February 26, 2009. I did not take a screenshot nor have I been a member there for years.
You're being told the truth.
You are correct. Nearly every “journalist” around Kentucky basketball at the time didn’t like Calipari and wanted no part of him at Kentucky. Some of that was because they never believed there was a chance of Calipari landing at Kentucky because of Todd and Barnhart. So all those “journalists” had to tow the line for the administration. They wanted to stay in good standing. As soon as Calipari was announced, those same guys became instant fans and believed it was the absolute best for rebuilding the program. Funny how that works.
The dude that ran that site didn’t, in anyway, strike me as “connected”—unless you mean to the end of a crack pipe. He worked at some automotive supplier putting seats into cars.
That site was about as good as Lazy Tuesday.
That site was about as good as Lazy Tuesday.
Except for Tipton and a few others at the LHL, who were upset that Tubby left and would do anything to bring down Cal.
During the Tubby wars, I posted at what used to be this site until I was informed my thoughts on Tubby's coaching abilities were no longer welcome. Every since then until today, Dynasty Defenders is the only place I have posted. I have over 26,000 posts there and know the place well. This thread has inspired me to sign up so I can comment.
First, Katman did not start DD as an anti-tubby site. He was very much pro tubby for a long time after the site was formed. I had many "discussions" with him on the subject. Eventually due to Tubby's coaching and arguments from many of us, Katman saw the light.
In the early days, I saw DD as an internet version of a wild west saloon. Those who were easily offended usually left pretty quick. These days it is a much milder version of it's old self.
As to The Professor and rr, many on here are not well informed about them. I've had the pleasure over the years to share many private messages with both of them. Both are good guys with the welfare of UK basketball in their heart. In those days, both had advance knowledge of certain things going on within the program. There were also others from DD working behind the scenes.
First, Katman did not start DD as an anti-tubby site. He was very much pro tubby for a long time after the site was formed. I had many "discussions" with him on the subject. Eventually due to Tubby's coaching and arguments from many of us, Katman saw the light.
In the early days, I saw DD as an internet version of a wild west saloon. Those who were easily offended usually left pretty quick. These days it is a much milder version of it's old self.
As to The Professor and rr, many on here are not well informed about them. I've had the pleasure over the years to share many private messages with both of them. Both are good guys with the welfare of UK basketball in their heart. In those days, both had advance knowledge of certain things going on within the program. There were also others from DD working behind the scenes.
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