To answer your question, is it impossible to do better paying someone else less? No no impossible. But it’s unlikely
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To answer your question, is it impossible to do better paying someone else less? No no impossible. But it’s unlikely
LSU > Kentucky. You can’t make this comparison. Look at it like this, let’s say LSU and Kentucky both fire their basketball and football coaches. Would you expect Kentucky to hit a home run with this football hire and lsu to hit a home run with their basketball hire?
You think all those other teams didn't do interviews and due diligence?
I agree, it was a rhetorical question not a literal one
That was not my point, my point was picking a coach that will achieve the goals many, including myself are hoping for, is not as easy as one may think, and history shows the odds are stacked against you. IMO I would only get there if I became thoroughly convinced Stoops will not be able to move the program forward, I'm not there yet - just sayin.
Top 10 @9 million a year is attractive...no more HCs that's a lifetime DC in 2023
We won’t be paying our next coach what stoops makes now. So many people don’t understand this. Stoops has a pretty standard sec contract. Just like everyone else, he gets raises the longer he is here. A coach with his tenure will make what he makes. If you didn’t support his firing 3-4 years ago then stop crying about his money now.
Fair enough. I am the one who brought LSU into the mix but let’s compare the others that he mentioned shall we.
Florida > UK
Auburn > UK
Tennessee > UK
Arkansas > UK
South Carolina = UK
If y’all think Stoops is doing so great, why are we still considered below everybody else except Vandy? Y’all are contradicting yourselves.
WRONG! Get off the UK board for a minute and listen to any fan base in the country. Barnhart is the laughing stock of all AD’s around the nation due to Stoops’ outrageous contract.
Our rivals love that he’s here. I’m not afraid to say it’s the worse contract of any coach in any sport in the country, although Jimbo’s is right there too but at least he is a national champion.
I’m jumping in late here but there’s no contradiction. Mark Stoops has beaten Florida three years in a row but you wouldn’t find a single analyst who would say Kentucky is a better job than Florida.
That’s because it’s not. No job with a lower expectation can be better. No fan, coach or analyst would say UK is better than UF. Billy Napier will be gone after this year. They’ll keep searching until they find the right guy then it’ll be another 30 year streak.
As TV contracts balloon and super conferences build , nearly all p-5 contracts will be like Stoops’. As jobs open , new hires will get $7-9 mil per yr easy . Stoops will be middle of the pack within 5 yrs
You think auburn and arky are superior? Have you watched them? Auburn is an embarrassment in the last few years. Littered with 5 star talent yet they plow through coach after coach trying to get it right. South Carolina s not equal to Kentucky either. Florida? Havnt we won 3 out of the last 5 against them? Again, littered with 5 star talent and they throw away coaches like they toss out old socks and we still beat that ass. lol
What the hell are you even talking about?
Beamer has really regressed this yr . Auburn is at least 2 yrs away . Arkansas is way down and likely will make a coaching change and be down for a bit . Miss state is down . Texas A&M will likely make a change , then watch them throw $$ at Kiffin ..that’ll drag Ole Miss down. Tho , the portal has changed things a lot . Any school ( including UK) could pop right in the portal and have that 10 win season
No one is 2 years away with NIL and the portal. No one. This whole attitude of it takes 3-5 years to build a program is archaic and just plain dumb. Recruiting and developing will always be important but I would argue just as important and even more important now is getting players in the portal who are proven commodities and paying the right guys. Make no mistake about it. This is professional football, no longer are these guys amateurs.
9 mill a year for a banjo bowl...seems legit... ![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
Brad White should be paid inbitcoin shitcoin...
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In the SEC? I don’t think so. Who was the last team in the sec to “pop” under a first year coach and win 10? Keep in mind that in those states you mentioned they produce tons of D1 talent within driving distance of the recruiting coaches. How many D1 kids come out of Kentucky every year?
Look I want to win as much as anyone. I love my cats and I’m pissed about the game. But we have to be somewhat grounded in our thinking. A lot of posters on here are the same people who are trying to find a magic weight loss pill.
The portal hasnt been around a long time , but I think it might be possible for someone to get that right quarterback or something and have a special year. Who knows….NIL plays a role as well, obviously. James Franklin winning nine at Vanderbilt in his second year, or whatever , is an indication about anything is possible
What did Franklin’s magic year do for vandy long term? Nothing. They are vandy still. He won 9 and they promptly lost him. Stoops has won 9 or 10 on more than one occasion and he’s still here. That’s why he gets paid what he does. He’s earned tenure and he’s built equity. The portal gave us Levis and now Leary. Leary was the number 1 portal qb. That’s literally the best we could get in the portal. Thank god he finally looked good yesterday. Hopefully he builds on that.
As for NIL, Kentucky does not that the advantage that other places have and we also have to split the pot with basketball. Let’s not forget uk is a basketball school. Another disadvantage.
This is all moot. Stoops is going nowhere for at least a few years. He still gives us our best shot at winning.
Since Steve Spurrier left they’ve only found the right guy one time. It’s not as easy as some of you think.
We are ranked in the top 25 recruiting before Stoops we were usually ranked about 80 in recruiting.
Why didn’t you just say they haven’t found the right guy since Urban Meyer left? Lol. Not to pour salt on the wound but if he were still there the streak would still be active.
They struck out on one between SS and UM. Finding the right guy ain’t easy. Even for Florida.
Are you being serious right now? You’re saying that UK is more respected, better program, better job than Auburn, Florida, and Arkansas??? If so you’re smoking some serious stuff man.
I’m not talking about about the last three years. I’m talking about the program as a whole. They fire their coaches for winning 6-8 games. Ours gets a lifetime contract.
Not Arkansas . They’re 167-184 all time in the SEC and 3-4 versus Kentucky . They’ve been an average program at best for a long time
Join the ACC if you want to compete for titles. Less revenue more competitive.
UK fans won’t/don’t compete in sec football nil.
UK fans won’t/don’t compete in sec football nil.
No that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying yes they fire their coaches for winning 6-8 games and where are they now? Behind Kentucky. We are better than Florida, arky and Auburn. You need to throw Arkansas out of this discussion anyways. We are the better program. Why even include them?
He either proves he can be consistent a get 8-9-10 wins most years or we should take a chance at getting someone who can while we still have a solid foundation. If he somehow gets to 8 wins this year that would be credit worthy after these last 3 games but it’s a shame we could have easily gone 2-1 instead of 0-3. I’ll give him credit in that he did a great job overall but we need to take the next step or get left in the dust again for decades.
Your last sentence is dead wrong. Should have stopped before you stated that.
The statement UK isn’t attractive enough is old as the hills. When will it be?
Your argument is who sucks the worse right now. You might not trade this years team but you would trade tradition and relevance for theirs.
I don’t know. You’re the one who keeps saying how great of a program Stoops has built.
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