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Don’t care for “ physicality” of the game

yeah the physical contact has gotten incredibly out of control and is an officiating cluster&*%%#$ waiting to happen. The game is and has been ruined for a long time. that's why nobody bothers about it except paying a little attention with March Madness, which is hogwash. It's devolved into a horrible game to watch.
 
Age showing but I enjoyed the freedom of movement and actually seeing space between defender and offensive player.

Cringe when I hear basketball coaches saying we need to be more physical or we need to fight.

It’s a wrestling match anymore in the front court.
It has almost become similar to watching a pick up game at the park. Plus the officials never make the same call twice on the same play.
 
It has almost become unwatchable.
I have a slightly different take. I LOVE physical play. The rougher the better and I want players who crave contact. It’s not the physicality that makes the games unwatchable. It’s all the foul calls that makes it unwatchable. Let them play!
 
I have a slightly different take. I LOVE physical play. The rougher the better and I want players who crave contact. It’s not the physicality that makes the games unwatchable. It’s all the foul calls that makes it unwatchable. Let them play!
So when guys are setting screens like a blocker in football..you think that is good ?

Or a rebound becomes two wrestlers grabbing one another?
 
I enjoy physical basketball. Don’t mind bodying up and hand checking or guys finishing through contact but that’s not what we see. It’s guys out of legal guarding position holding and grabbing. Then when a guy is guarding well, the offensive player drives straight into them, snaps their head back and gets a foul call.
 
Age showing but I enjoyed the freedom of movement and actually seeing space between defender and offensive player.

Cringe when I hear basketball coaches saying we need to be more physical or we need to fight.

It’s a wrestling match anymore in the front court.
Same. I hate all the loosening of the rules and then the same ppl complain tons about inconsistency. I hate how almost every screen is a moving screen. I hate the hand check and ride the offensive player era. I hate the constant carries in the name of “handles”. I hate how “1 step and a half” turned into 3 steps somehow bc 2 steps was insinuated due to the gather step being the half step…and then ppl said “2 steps” long enough that it became “2 steps and a gather….so 3”.

A lot of the finesse and beauty of the game would come back by just enforcing the rules as written
 
So when guys are setting screens like a blocker in football..you think that is good ?

Or a rebound becomes two wrestlers grabbing one another?
Moving screens should be enforced. Hard screens are just part of the game. On the rebounding thing, hell yeah I want physicality allowed. I think as long as the players are going for the ball they should be allowed to be as physical as they want.
 
I’d hate to see this sport call even more fouls as the entire product seems to be nothing but free throws and threes.
If they allow a physical game then free throws become a premium. They can be the difference in the game and now when a guy goes to the line it has meaning and its impactful.

I don’t like the pussification of the game and that’s where we are now. So call say 20 percent less fouls and let it be the norm and it will train fans to stop crying so much about the whistle. The games will last no more than 1:45. It’s a win win.
 
Age showing but I enjoyed the freedom of movement and actually seeing space between defender and offensive player.

Cringe when I hear basketball coaches saying we need to be more physical or we need to fight.

It’s a wrestling match anymore in the front court.
Bring back the hand checking and prewwing would come back in style or have 15 players and run teams into the ground.
 
I like physical play. What I don’t like is an inconsistent whistle. If it’s allowed on one end, it should be allowed at the other. If it’s allowed in the first 4 minutes, it should be allowed in the next 36 minutes. If it’s allowed in January, it should be allowed in Feb and March.
Now there are some things that should never be allowed: Pushing an airborne player in the back should never be allowed. Hitting the shooting hand of a shooter while shooting is always a foul. Grabbing a player should never be allowed. There are other obvious things that should never be allowed.
However, hand checking, body bumps, etc just need to be called consistently. Not just consistent at both ends, but game to game.
 
It's been a little while since I played any pick-up games at the park but when I did you couldn't get away with what is let go in college basketball with three officials on the court.
I've been saying for a while that I believe it would be better as a "call your own" on the honor system than what we've been seeing. Physical play is fine to a point as long as it's the same for both teams.
 
I like physical play. What I don’t like is an inconsistent whistle. If it’s allowed on one end, it should be allowed at the other. If it’s allowed in the first 4 minutes, it should be allowed in the next 36 minutes. If it’s allowed in January, it should be allowed in Feb and March.
Now there are some things that should never be allowed: Pushing an airborne player in the back should never be allowed. Hitting the shooting hand of a shooter while shooting is always a foul. Grabbing a player should never be allowed. There are other obvious things that should never be allowed.
However, hand checking, body bumps, etc just need to be called consistently. Not just consistent at both ends, but game to game.
Agree 100%.
 
It doesn't help, either, with all the flopping going on. Ragdolls flying every which way on the court. That makes it look even more physical than it already is. Call the damn flops TECHNICAL FOULS. And then you have teams relying more and more and more on freshman, who mostly would scream if they got introduced to a weight room. And like others here have said, refs are just so inconsistent.
 
Age showing but I enjoyed the freedom of movement and actually seeing space between defender and offensive player.

Cringe when I hear basketball coaches saying we need to be more physical or we need to fight.

It’s a wrestling match anymore in the front court.
Wait until NCAA and the Refs do not allow physical play. SEC will be in trouble without thug ball
 
If they allow a physical game then free throws become a premium. They can be the difference in the game and now when a guy goes to the line it has meaning and its impactful.

I don’t like the pussification of the game and that’s where we are now. So call say 20 percent less fouls and let it be the norm and it will train fans to stop crying so much about the whistle. The games will last no more than 1:45. It’s a win win.
There is no pussification of the game today. It’s a horrible game to watch as the ncaa has changed the rules and ruined the purity of the game. It’s basically football on a basketball court. You are the only person I have seen that wants the game to be rougher. Very odd.
 
Age showing but I enjoyed the freedom of movement and actually seeing space between defender and offensive player.

Cringe when I hear basketball coaches saying we need to be more physical or we need to fight.

It’s a wrestling match anymore in the front court.
Yep , the product sucks … ask why . Why ? The game looks like rugby or football .. bring back the carry .. don’t allow the 2 hand hand checking . Offensively you shouldn’t be able to steam roll the guy guarding you. Shaq ruined the game .. im bigger , im running over you with my ass the size of a small country .
 
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UK had two goal tending calls go against them and both ended up being reversed. Wonder if the same ref called both ?
 
The SEC has turned into what the Big 10 used to be. It looks more like football than basketball at times. This could hurt some of the top SEC teams during the tourney when they are no longer able to mug their opponents.
 
Yep , the product sucks … ask why . Why ? The game looks like rugby or football .. bring back the carry .. don’t allow the 2 hand hand checking . Offensively you shouldn’t be able to steam roll the guy guarding you. Shaq ruined the game .. im bigger , im running over you with my ass the size of a small country .
I don't know what a player has to do to get a carry call anymore. Often the ball is cupped in the hands of the dribbler and nothing is called. Heck, I don't know the last time a lane violation was called. It is certainly killing the game.
 
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If they allow a physical game then free throws become a premium. They can be the difference in the game and now when a guy goes to the line it has meaning and its impactful.

I don’t like the pussification of the game and that’s where we are now. So call say 20 percent less fouls and let it be the norm and it will train fans to stop crying so much about the whistle. The games will last no more than 1:45. It’s a win win.
No blood no foul. Let's introduce scrums to move the ball down the court. And make the rim 11 feet tall. No pussies allowed.
 
Don’t mind physical play just don’t like the inconsistencies from the officials between teams. Let one team play ‘tough’ defense on one end then call a brush foul on the other. I call this bullshit, corruption, and downright cheating. I hope to hell that when we take the floor next week that I don’t recognize any of these slimy douchebags that we’ve had to deal with all season.
 
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Wait until NCAA and the Refs do not allow physical play. SEC will be in trouble without thug ball
Pre conference SEC record would seem to indicate otherwise.

But I agree the constant grabbing, pushing, hacking coupled with the flopping, head jerking etc by “favored” players is ruining the game from a fan’s perspective.
 
I predict a change of philosophy in the SEC next year and you’ll be hearing the phrase “freedom of movement” just like the nba done. When basketball is compared to a football game as these announcers and commentators have been saying, not a good look and they’ll want to “open” things up next season meaning the lane. As long as they clean up these incompetent officials and get rid of the trash, I’m for that more than anything.
 
No blood no foul. Let's introduce scrums to move the ball down the court. And make the rim 11 feet tall. No pussies allowed.
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There is no pussification of the game today. It’s a horrible game to watch as the ncaa has changed the rules and ruined the purity of the game. It’s basically football on a basketball court. You are the only person I have seen that wants the game to be rougher. Very odd.
The game is rough enough. I want less fouls called, thus allowing for the rough play that’s already happening. It’s a very subtle difference, but still a difference.

It’s not a horrible game to watch because of roughness. It’s a horrible game to watch because the refs insert themselves into the game by calling a million fouls and doing a million reviews. The NFL has a similar issue now that the refs won’t allow a qb to be touched without throwing a flag. Let the players play. It was never meant to be ballet.
 
Whatever happened to they wanted more freedom of movement and wanted the game to be more free flowing with a focus on letting offense score points?
 
Watching Bama, they are the perfect styled team to take advantage of driving to the basket . . . we had one guy adept at it and they had at least 3.

College offensive ball has become one of two things: lower a shoulder and drive through anyone in your way, or (2) kick the pass out if they manage to get in your way.

A team full of Oweh’s and Keith Bogans would rule, and Bama is as close as I have seen.
 
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It's been a little while since I played any pick-up games at the park but when I did you couldn't get away with what is let go in college basketball with three officials on the court.
Same here and we would even call our own fouls if we made an obvious foul on someone. Watched some pickup games at a local gym I workout in and it's anything goes with constant yelling at each other. That sure looks like a lot of fun. College game is getting similar and doesn't resemble basketball all that much. Just a pushing, bumping, very rough game where the strongest guy wins as the reffing is horrible. Not much fun watching that crap.
 
Age showing but I enjoyed the freedom of movement and actually seeing space between defender and offensive player.

Cringe when I hear basketball coaches saying we need to be more physical or we need to fight.

It’s a wrestling match anymore in the front court.
Add the excessive taunting getting worse every season. Totally classless. Respect your opponent.
 
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