Doesn’t fact we are on probation mean
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The stigma of probation and voiding wins is a big deal....but in reality this was as small as no pay jobs. This is such an injustice by NCAA when all kinds of Saban kids, etc.... are running around in BMW, tricked out Escalades, etc... and many guys are from poverty. And this happens all over the place (including basketball team) but we do this to a handful of football players.
I don't think Stoops contract should be voided due to this....but I 100% for sure can't see why UK agreed to honor all of his contract when he tried to leave for Texas AM. So if Stoops get fired and we owe him payout when he was more then ready to walk out to Texas AM....that woiuld be an equal injustice. But that is where good ole Mitch's nonsense comes to play.
I don't think Stoops contract should be voided due to this....but I 100% for sure can't see why UK agreed to honor all of his contract when he tried to leave for Texas AM. So if Stoops get fired and we owe him payout when he was more then ready to walk out to Texas AM....that woiuld be an equal injustice. But that is where good ole Mitch's nonsense comes to play.
The flip side of that is if he had gone to ATM he would have owed UK whatever the terms called for.
It’s not his duty to prevent the actions of individuals who aren’t part of the football staff. It’s his job to ensure that his staff and players are educated on the rules, and that there are processes in place to monitor and try to catch things. That’s the most he can do and that can only reduce the likelihood of violations. It can’t prevent them entirely.
In terms of his contract, UK cannot fire Stoops for cause simply because we’re on probation. For Stoops to be fired for cause, there would have to be:
- Major violations in the football program
- Those violations would also have to be committed by either:
- Stoops himself
- A member of the football staff AND where Stoops either:
- Had reason to know or suspect the violations and failed to act
- Attempted to conceal the violations
- Failed to report the violations to UK compliance after becoming aware of them
Actually Grumpy, the buyout is only if UK lets him go. It has come up before that Barnhart has publicly said that he does not agree with holding coach's to buyout clauses because he doesn't want a coach who doesn't want to be here so Calipari did not have to pay us a dime. Stoops, I'm 99% sure has the same clause. It's stupid, it hurts UK because hardly any other schools do this but it's a point of honor with him.
And even if he had done any of that, UK would lose in court if they fired him a season after UK was put on probation.
Stoops has a buyout. It started at $4.5 million and goes down by $500,000 every year of his contract.
I thought they had a standard of reasonably should have known.
At any rate I’m sure u guys are right and we are now on a downward spiral stuck with a coach who doesn’t really want to be here. No other school will be willing to pay him even half of what he makes here based on results and style of play .
Doesn’t bode well for future attendance .
But at last we will still get the bid SEC check to pay his unearned ten million a year as he mails it in.
I am not dismissing 4.5m as nothing, but it is a relatively small number compared to what many buyouts are today. I have read Napier's is 26m, not sure on Pittman. But even Pruitt had something like 13m. Some recent ones are Jimbo's was 75m, Gus got about 25m from AU. I think Kirby's is alone the lines of Jimbo's. Certainly not endorsing UK to get rid of Stoops, but it would be a relatively inexpensive dismissals as far as head football coaches in the SEC if thats the route UK takes. Probably less that the buyout of the next coach if he is a proven P4 winner as a head coach.
You are confusing buyouts. The small number represents what HE owes if goes to a new job. If he gets canned, the number is huge, something over 30M.
Different buyouts. The poster you responded to thought that Stoops would owe UK nothing if he walked on his own. He would ow UK $3.5 million if he walked this year. UK would owe Stoops $47.5 million if they fired him without cause this year.
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