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Does this team seem to be getting worse?

whhs22

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I could be wrong ,but this is not the same team i seen against Duke.

Seem frustrated ,uninterested, lost confidence. Its like they are not comfortable and spend more time looking to the sideline at Cal then just playing.

Against Duke these guys were cocky .tough and played freely making plays.

They seem tired to. uK takes a lot out of you on and off the court. And Cal riding you non stop the entire game seems to have Murrey frantic and confused.

Just not the same motor or play i seen against a tough Duke team.
 
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the "secret" is out, we can't shoot and can't defend. I'm sure we're super easy to game plan against
 
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I could be wrong ,but this is not the same team i seen against Duke.

Seem frustrated ,uninterested, lost confidence. Its like they are not comfortable and spend more time looking to the sideline at Cal then just playing.

Against Duke these guys were cocky .tough and played freely making plays.

They seem tired to. uK takes a lot out of you on and off the court. And Cal riding you non stop the entire game seems to have Murrey frantic and confused.

Just not the same motor or play i seen against a tough Duke team.
Defensively they are.
 
Thats my point at the beginning of the year we defended. Shut Duke Down. Shot pretty well. Our glaring weakmess was rebounding.

Against EKU guards getting lay ups that much better Duke guards didnt get. Seems like a scared team playing. Not scared of other team but scared to make a mistake.

Cant play that way. Guess the word is tight. They seem tight when once they seemed lose and confidence
 
Yes. Defense is terrible and seem to have forgotten how to shoot outside of 3'.
 
Icecold we just got blown out by a unranked UCLA team. This has nothing to do about last year. Its about the play from the first game until this game.

There are some noticeable issues. The reason mess boards we're created we're to discuss things, just like they are right now on T.V saying exactly what we're discussing.
 
Icecold we just got blown out by a unranked UCLA team. This has nothing to do about last year. Its about the play from the first game until this game.

There are some noticeable issues. The reason mess boards we're created we're to discuss things, just like they are right now on T.V saying exactly what we're discussing.


So everyone can discuss it as long as you agree with what they say? Good luck with that. 8 and 1, only loss on the road when UCLA played out of ther minds, Lee went out hurt earliy, Poythress was in foul trouble from the get-go and Ulis wasn't himself.
 
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8 and 1 with another blowout. Last year ruined some of our fans for good.

Guess it ruined Seth Greenberg too as he didn't have much nice to say about the W. Doubtful cal will be happy overall too, guess the same applies to him, spilled from last years team. Team looks horrible right now, bottom line.
 
no anyone can have an opinion on the subject. but I'm not taking the easy way out and say we were spoiled by last years team and have to high of expectations.

like I said I could be wrong but this team was playing different and at a different level against Duke. to be honest seems like they are not having as much fun.

they just seem tight to me , that's all I'm saying. and asking for the opinion why do you think they seem tight and uninterested even on the def side?
 
crowds getting worse too. people dont seem to grasp that this team is a work in progress. not all the pieces are going to click at the same time. thought our guards would be better early though
 
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Ulis and Murray have got to start shooting/hitting some 3's..them 2 need to shoot 10-12 a game between them..both are 40% shooters..think Cal needs to tweak the offence to get them 2 more 3pt shots..Briscoe needs to drive to kick back for 3 if not a clear layup...
 
I dont think they are getting worse. Their best game was Duke so far, UCLA the worst, but things seem pretty steady. I think there will be gradual improvement. They made some careless mistakes today that will surely be cleaned up over the course of the regular season.
 
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Guess it ruined Seth Greenberg too as he didn't have much nice to say about the W. Doubtful cal will be happy overall too, guess the same applies to him, spilled from last years team. Team looks horrible right now, bottom line.


Who cares what Seth Greenburg says. UK often plays sluggish up until the U of L game. It is what it is.
no anyone can have an opinion on the subject. but I'm not taking the easy way out and say we were spoiled by last years team and have to high of expectations.

like I said I could be wrong but this team was playing different and at a different level against Duke. to be honest seems like they are not having as much fun.

they just seem tight to me , that's all I'm saying. and asking for the opinion why do you think they seem tight and uninterested even on the def side?


I've seen more UK teams play like crap around and after Thanksgiving than I can count... Hope you don't lose any sleep overanalyzing it.
 
Lost 85% of their scoring and 78% of their rebounding from last year. It will take longer for these guys to gel and work together as a team.
 
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Guess it ruined Seth Greenberg too as he didn't have much nice to say about the W. Doubtful cal will be happy overall too, guess the same applies to him, spilled from last years team. Team looks horrible right now, bottom line.
Horrible? Please. Did we just lose to Gardner Webb?
 
no we are not worse. These are freshman. The trajectory for success is gonna look more like a massive coronary on an ekg vs a steady line to the championship
 
Eastern shot 40% tonight.
Our weak side rotation was much better in the second half.
We held them to 67 pts.
You young guys better understand that team last yr was a once in a lifetime team defensively.
We have a long way to go but its early.
We are 8-1 and Ulis Lee and Poy are nearing 100%.
Chill out.
Oh and Briscoe is a bad ass.
 
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EKU has several really good one on one players. Tough to keep those guys out of the lane and our defensive rotation is not good right now. But we win by 21 so it can't be all bad. AP, Ulis and Briscoe played well and when Murray quits aiming his 3's he's going to go off for 40.
 
They didn't have to fly across the country and play on the road with lots of Freshman and one of their key players getting hurt early in the game either.
Agree with you about Lee, he may have helped. You're putting too much weight into the travel, though. Monmouth had to travel a longer distance.
 
UCLA really isn't that bad, yes they lost some early season games but they're young too and have good talent. The season could go either way for them depending on coaching etc but all of their players were ranked high coming out of high school.
 
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This team just needs to realize that the 3pt shot is part of any offense.

UK shot 19 three's...they made 4. What more do you want in attempts? They honestly shot too many. We shot 21% from 3 and almost 69% from 2.
 
18 year old kids and horses.....hard to bet on either one. Remember how worn out Randall looked in the championship game? WCS vanishing against Wisconsin? As long as we beat Louisville and don't slip up before then, I'll be thrilled with just one loss so far.
 
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Sometimes coaches work the kids harder than usual in practice to teach them toughness by playing sore and tired. Not saying this is the case, but it may be.
 
a lot of great points. it is early and I'm not panicking. think once Murrey gets the feel and Ulis finds his stroke it will open up the floor. But I am curious to see how we match up with a team like Michigan St in March. no way do I want to play them today. that's a bunch of men out there. not sure we are ready for that yet.
 
Last years team was better early and then got kinda worse, they never did go to that extra gear. This team has more upside, and more fun to watch, even with the problems we have right now. So, no, I am not spoiled. I enjoy watching this team.
 
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Man, if only it was December 9th and we have more time to prepare.

Kansas or UNC are this year's 2015 Duke obsession. It's already begun.
 
Last years team was better early and then got kinda worse, they never did go to that extra gear. This team has more upside, and more fun to watch, even with the problems we have right now. So, no, I am not spoiled. I enjoy watching this team.

Huh? I don't get it. You're offering...

Reason?

Logic?

Patience?

Don't you know you're supposed to expect a Calipari team to play like world beaters in December?
 
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Tonight they missed a lot of open jumpers. Had a few of these went down it would be a normal game against a lesser opponent. The offense seems confused and their mindset is very fragile. I am hoping that the extra coaching and time away that the light will come on and the game will slow down. Willis probably knocks down every shot in practice- during the game it seems like he rushes every shot . This would be a good example of slowing the game down and knocking down a shot he has probably done a thousand times.
 
my biggest concern is the sloppiness. 17 turnovers against a team that plays no defense is very concerning.
 
if you want my brutally honest opinion - I'm mad cause I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated - not because this team took a loss last week, it's HOW they lost; and even though we won tonight, we didn't really play a whole lot better.
Now, that being said - I do believe we'll improve; this is NOT a repeat of 2012-2013; by this time, that season, we were 6-3. And, IIRC - this was just about the time that Ryan Harrow had his first major disappearance of the season.
There is something going on with this team - and I think it's all mental. I was hoping for a better bounceback from the UCLA game; maybe the win instilled a little confidence and the real bounceback game will be Saturday.

But, I'm still mad
 
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