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Does Calipari deserve a pay raise?

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I've been thinking about this and my opinion is no he doesn't. He is paid to recruit and coach. His recruiting is great but his coaching needs major improvement. Since 2012 Kentucky has had the best talent and every year we have seen subpar teams win the championship. I don't care what you say duke was given the championship this year. Last year was ucrap. I mean seriously you have a roster full of NBA players and can't win. If anything calipari should return some money due to lack of performance.
Now bash away. I'm ready for your comments.
 
I understand what you are saying but what cal has done hasn't been seen at UK since Rupp. Now I see the argument where he doesnt deserve one but you have to look at the bigger picture. We have competed for a title every year he has been here save one. 4 final fours and a title, hard to beat that. So my opinion is that he does.
 
Yep. 6 years, 4 final fours, 1 title. He sucks. We should fire him.

I'm guessing you are the type of fan who will complain about his salary then bitch if he left for the increased pay of the NBA.
 
I've been thinking about this and my opinion is no he doesn't. He is paid to recruit and coach. His recruiting is great but his coaching needs major improvement. Since 2012 Kentucky has had the best talent and every year we have seen subpar teams win the championship. I don't care what you say duke was given the championship this year. Last year was ucrap. I mean seriously you have a roster full of NBA players and can't win. If anything calipari should return some money due to lack of performance.
Now bash away. I'm ready for your comments.
I'd say he deserves the raise but we deserve a high level, highly paid recruiter to replace Slice.
 
Yes, he deserves a raise. Whatever keeps him at UK as long as possible. And UK did not have the best talent or team in 2012/2013...OP needs to get his head out of something there. As far as 2013/2014, if Cal has a healthy team he probably wins the title, and same thing with this year. I'm less inclined to give that excuse for this past season as UK still had by far the best team IMO, but as others have pointed out, it is a valid one to use if one wants to.
 
2 responses are typical.

question: does Cal deserve a pay raise?

Answer: yea lets just fire him

seems to be a disconnect somewhere when anyone dares question Cal
 
It's a fair question IMO. I don't know if he deserves a pay raise but I am damn happy he is here and whatever Mitch has to do to keep him here I am fine with. The amount of money that he makes should not affect anyone on this board. IMO we should be happy he is getting a raise.
 
I've been thinking about this and my opinion is no he doesn't. He is paid to recruit and coach. His recruiting is great but his coaching needs major improvement. Since 2012 Kentucky has had the best talent and every year we have seen subpar teams win the championship. I don't care what you say duke was given the championship this year. Last year was ucrap. I mean seriously you have a roster full of NBA players and can't win. If anything calipari should return some money due to lack of performance.
Now bash away. I'm ready for your comments.
LOL. I'll admit that as annoying troll threads go this one is a bit better than some because it reads like it was written by an authentic nincompoop rather than someone just trying to provoke heated responses. Still an Idiot Wind, though.
 
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It's a fair question IMO. I don't know if he deserves a pay raise but I am damn happy he is here and whatever Mitch has to do to keep him here I am fine with. The amount of money that he makes should not affect anyone on this board. IMO we should be happy he is getting a raise.
Is Cal above being questioned on things? No. But imo he is absolutely perfect for this job and deserves every penny and more. 6 years and in 5 of those years a legit shot at winning a title. That is amazing. One title in 6 years is very good. Ahead of UK's all time average I believe. With a break or two, and yes, a little better preparation/bench coaching, we could have have 1-2 more titles under Cal. I'm very satisfied with him.
 
Does any college coach deserve 8 million a year when schools have a hard time making budget?
Short answer is yes. How much has Cal brought to the program and UK monetarily speaking? IMO, he's a great investment.

Also, every campus I've been on recently, large or small, there is a building boom. Not just a boom, but an explosion I don't think most schools are having a hard time making budget.
 
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Cal deserves to be highly compensated.

Cal is highly compensated.

at some point it turns into begging/extortion to stay

Either a coach wants to be here or he doesn't.
 
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Cal deserves to be highly compensated.

Cal is highly compensated.

at some point it turns into begging/extortion to stay

Either a coach wants to be here or he doesn't.
I really disagree with this point. He is want this program needs. If UK can pay him what he's worth, then he deserves it. I don't think that's begging or extortion.
 
Short answer is yes. How much has Cal brought to the program and UK monetarily speaking? IMO, he's a great investment.

Also, every campus I've been on recently, large or small, there is a building boom. Not just a boom, but an explosion I don't think most schools are having a hard time making budget.

Yeah, I agree. UK is not having that many issues. With the football program, and being in the SEC with the even more added money of SEC Network, and UK b-ball brings in great revenue, etc, so yeah our big two deserve whatever they want.
 
Cal deserves pretty much any provision, within reason, that can keep him here. If offering him an extension and some extra coin extends his era here at UK, I'm all for it. Just put it this way.....the longer he stays here the more likely it is that UK can find a legitimate replacement for him. As of now there is less than a handful of coaches that could even handle this position let alone being as wildly successful as Cal has been here.
 
ZERO dollars from Cal's contract are derived from anyone on this board's bank account. With that being said, it's none of your business what Cal makes.
 
Cal deserves to be highly compensated.

Cal is highly compensated.

at some point it turns into begging/extortion to stay

Either a coach wants to be here or he doesn't.

Extortion??? What planet do you live on? If I were as good at my job is Cal is at his, I'd be asking for a pay raise too, because I KNOW I would get it. And if I didn't get it, there would be another company right down the road that would love to give me that raise.
 
After Tubby and Billy, Kentucky needs Cal a lot more than Cal needs Kentucky. Just follow the money
 
Kentucky is making a TON more money because Cal is here. We weren't even filling Rupp for home games with Tubby and Tubby.

How much free marketing did UK get from ESPN during our undefeated run last year? Almost every single game on tv someone was mentioning UK. What's the price on that.

Cal is worth every single penny.
 
If we didn't have Cal, who would you honestly want? There are for sure some what if moments, but he's done what any fan could ask for...kept us relevant and competitive.
 
Does any college coach deserve 8 million a year when schools have a hard time making budget?

Spoken like a true Canadian. All the college coaches ought to pool their money to help out all the schools that have budget shortfalls. Then feed and clothe the poor while they're at it. Then give whatever's leftover to working families with children that can't afford cable.
 
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You know who MOST thinks Cal doesn't deserve a raise? Louisville, Indiana, North Carolina and Kansas fans.

Ask yourself what it is worth to fans, alums and the university to be Kentucky Basketball instead of Indiana Basketball. If the answer is 'not much' then allow Cal to be vulnerable on the free market. If the answer is 'a lot' then raise his pay in an effort to keep that from happening.
 
Also, every campus I've been on recently, large or small, there is a building boom. Not just a boom, but an explosion I don't think most schools are having a hard time making budget.

You are correct sir. We are always crying about the budget, but in reality the Provost Budget Office and UK BOT be like.........
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Does any college coach deserve 8 million a year when schools have a hard time making budget?
A Card fan talking about the misappropriation of funds when his own fan base gloats incessantly about the money pit that is the Yum Center? I enjoy some rich irony every now and then.
 
If a coaches pay is determined by his results each year, then is there any coach in the country that deserves a raise more than Calipari? He has had the best results over the past 6 years with the exception of maybe Coach K, but that could be argued.

So on the basis of results then, yes, Calipari definitely deserves a raise.

Frankly he is a bargain at twice the price, especially since not one dime comes out of my pocket. Calipari generates interest and money, he brings in donors and treats them well. If we need to give him a raise every year to keep him here, then that's what needs to happen.
 
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Did Cal have two and maybe 3 teams that should have won the title? Yes. But that happens throughout the history of the tournament. Houston in '83. Georgetown in '85. UNLV in '91. And so on. Look at a lot of Dean Smith's UNC teams.

Am I frustrated that UK didn't win it this year? Yes. Maybe more than any year in recent memory. But if you think Cal isn't getting it done at UK your memory is very short. Four FF's in five years is not the norm at UK or anywhere else.

Those that are unhappy with the current run UK is on, are either the type that just like to complain or are not aware of how hard it is to do what UK has done.
 
It's not that questioning Cal is unacceptable. It's that the people who think Cal is not very good with Xs and Os are either stupid or are holding Cal to a different standard than other top coaches because they personally dislike him.

If you go look at the other coaches who destroy on the recruiting trail (Miller, Self, K, Donovan, Roy, a lesser extent Drew, Barnes, Pastner) and compare what they've done on the court to Cal (only K is comparably good), everything I just said becomes clear as day.

The point is you're comparing him to some imaginary coach who doesn't exist. Every coach has had embarrassing losses to teams far below their skill, and most of them do it in far worse fashion than Cal. That's why Cal's wins above expectations is the third highest in the modern era. In fact, most of Cal's losses have been deep in the tourney to HOF coaches with the same or higher seed than him. If you look at K or Self's tourney chokes in the last 6 years (the other two elite recruiting, coaching demi-gods) it's not even a comparison.

So like I said, you're either dense or you just don't like Cal.

1. You're dense and reactionary like a child, still can't get over the Wisconsin loss, are incapable of looking at the big picture, and aren't able to make an objective comparison to what other talent-rich elite coaches are doing with what they have.

2. You don't like Cal, and you'd trade some of the success we've had for a coach who does things the "old fashion way" and still wins. In this case, you don't care that Cal has had the best run in the last 6 years of any coach in the country (only other one with an argument is K). He could win everything and you'd still find ways to take little underhanded shots at him at every opportunity.

If you're in the first case, you're gonna be miserable no matter who you're a fan of. If you were a dense Duke fan when K lost a 2/15 and 3/14 game within 3 years and started questioning him being paid 9 mil a year, the smart Duke fans likewise would've told you to shut the hell up. Same with Self and all his early flameouts. And Donovan's Elite 8 losses.

In the second case, just leave the board until we get a new coach. Seriously, nobody wants to hear your constant negativity. If he makes you that miserable, then come back when we have another coach with 4 year guys who gets us to a final four every 3-4 years at best, and you can praise him until your throat is hoarse.
 
It's not that questioning Cal is unacceptable. It's that the people who think Cal is not very good with Xs and Os are either stupid or are holding Cal to a different standard than other top coaches because they personally dislike him.

If you go look at the other coaches who destroy on the recruiting trail (Miller, Self, K, Donovan, Roy, a lesser extent Drew, Barnes, Pastner) and compare what they've done on the court to Cal (only K is comparably good), everything I just said becomes clear as day.

The point is you're comparing him to some imaginary coach who doesn't exist. Every coach has had embarrassing losses to teams far below their skill, and most of them do it in far worse fashion than Cal. That's why Cal's wins above expectations is the third highest in the modern era. In fact, most of Cal's losses have been deep in the tourney to HOF coaches with the same or higher seed than him. If you look at K or Self's tourney chokes in the last 6 years (the other two elite recruiting, coaching demi-gods) it's not even a comparison.

So like I said, you're either dense or you just don't like Cal.

1. You're dense and reactionary like a child, still can't get over the Wisconsin loss, are incapable of looking at the big picture, and aren't able to make an objective comparison to what other talent-rich elite coaches are doing with what they have.

2. You don't like Cal, and you'd trade some of the success we've had for a coach who does things the "old fashion way" and still wins. In this case, you don't care that Cal has had the best run in the last 6 years of any coach in the country (only other one with an argument is K). He could win everything and you'd still find ways to take little underhanded shots at him at every opportunity.

If you're in the first case, you're gonna be miserable no matter who you're a fan of. If you were a dense Duke fan when K lost a 2/15 and 3/14 game within 3 years and started questioning him being paid 9 mil a year, the smart Duke fans likewise would've told you to shut the hell up. Same with Self and all his early flameouts. And Donovan's Elite 8 losses.

In the second case, just leave the board until we get a new coach. Seriously, nobody wants to hear your constant negativity. If he makes you that miserable, then come back when we have another coach with 4 year guys who gets us to a final four every 3-4 years at best, and you can praise him until your throat is hoarse.

U mad bro? :)
 
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