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Do you really think the Unforgettables' jerseys should be in the rafters?

If you are meaning the Unforgettables, their importance to the program can not be overstated. Along with, and to a lesser degree than Mashburn, they brought the program back from the depths of Hell.

Their inclusion in the group of those with jerseys retired is questionable at best, however. And for the record, there were only 3 homegrown boys in that group. Woods was from Indy.
 
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Yea I think they should be, there were three Kentucky boys on that team that stuck with the program and they could have left, but they stayed and helped the team reach what people thought were unattainable heights, like someone said earlier, the program was about as low as it could be during that time.
 
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What do you think, OP?
I don't think so. Not understating their collective contribution, and I do like the idea of a team banner, but to me it's like a HOF honor to be up there. That season was surreal, FWIW. I was a UK student at the time.
 
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There is a precedent. Guys like Gayle Rose are in the rafters because Rupp wanted to honor the undefeated team from 1954. Other than Hagan, Ramsey and Tsiropolous, none of those guys "deserve" it. But I have no problem with it.

I don't think it devalues it.
 
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They're up there for good. It would look bad to take them down at this point. As individual players they do not deserve to be up there. If you want to memorialize the season somehow that is fine, but that should have been it.
 
They're up there for good. It would look bad to take them down at this point. As individual players they do not deserve to be up there. If you want to memorialize the season somehow that is fine, but that should have been it.
agree with this too; it's too late to do anything about it because it would look bad.
 
no, I don't think they should be up there individually. BUt something should be there for the guys who stayed around and helped resurrect our program
Good point. An "Unforgettable" banner with their names on it or something like that. It was a special team/time of the individuals collectively so I'm not saying take their jerseys down. If some didn't know I believe Sean Woods parent(s) were from Lexington or were just maybe UK grads
 
The spirit of the time in which they were hung should be what we continue to honor. We shouldn't allow revisionist history, void of relevant emotion, dictate things like this. If you believe the revisionist version of history then you shouldn't condemn UNC and Kansas fans mentioning helms banners.

I would have been cool with putting them on the back of Mashburns jersey though, but that's a different arguement.
 
It was such an emotional season ....first post probation...Cats win SECT...go to EE...then play in what many believe was greatest basketball gm ever played...only to lose on a buzzer beater in OT to defending champs Duke by the slimmest of margins.

Cawood retired after the gm.
Pel, Farmer, Feldhaus and Woods all Srs.
3 of the 4 from Ky.

Listen, that to this day is my fav UK team ever.

Sure having the Ky born and bred players had alot to do with that but it was more than that. They overachieved because they cared because they were Kentuckians.

Kentuckians are primarily blue collar workers and this team was blue collar.

Frankly you guys that dont think they should be up there...I question your fanhood.
 
No one at the time had any problem with it being done. In fact it was embraced by the fanbase. I don't see what the problem is.
Me either. What they accomplished was amazing and what it did for our program at that time was second to none. One of my top three teams in history.
 
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It was such an emotional season ....first post probation...Cats win SECT...go to EE...then play in what many believe was greatest basketball gm ever played...only to lose on a buzzer beater in OT to defending champs Duke by the slimmest of margins.

Cawood retired after the gm.
Pel, Farmer, Feldhaus and Woods all Srs.
3 of the 4 from Ky.

Listen, that to this day is my fav UK team ever.

Sure having the Ky born and bred players had alot to do with that but it was more than that. They overachieved because they cared because they were Kentuckians.

Kentuckians are primarily blue collar workers and this team was blue collar.

Frankly you guys that dont think they should be up there...I question your fanhood.

Really good post except that I don't think it's a fan hood issue at all. Just some with differing opinions. I don't have a problem at all with them being up there. But in hind sight, one banner would've been better imo.
 
Is there a certain requirement to get your jersey hung in the rafters and who judges what gets hung or not:popcorn:
 
It was such an emotional season ....first post probation...Cats win SECT...go to EE...then play in what many believe was greatest basketball gm ever played...only to lose on a buzzer beater in OT to defending champs Duke by the slimmest of margins.

Cawood retired after the gm.
Pel, Farmer, Feldhaus and Woods all Srs.
3 of the 4 from Ky.

Listen, that to this day is my fav UK team ever.

Sure having the Ky born and bred players had alot to do with that but it was more than that. They overachieved because they cared because they were Kentuckians.

Kentuckians are primarily blue collar workers and this team was blue collar.

Frankly you guys that dont think they should be up there...I question your fanhood.
I agree with you 100 percent..
 
At this point you can't take them down, and I appreciated that team as much as anyone. However I think it's selling them short to act as if they were a bunch of overachievers.

Mash is a top 5 all time UK player. They had the best record in the SEC the previous season (90-91) but were ineligible to win it. And they were only 7 point underdogs to the defending champs, who had 2 all-americans in the starting lineup.

There was no reason at all to think they couldn't win that game.
 
Yes, but I do think you need to have lived through it all to truly understand. The late 80's were dark days for UK's basketball program. Very dark. It seemed almost weekly there was some little story about the allegations, and overall it was a headline scandal leading to the infamous SI cover. In today's world there would have been TV shows talking about it just about every day. Let's not even imagine the internet. At the time I was working at a place with people from schools all over the country, and I endured a fair amount of mostly good natured joking about the whole thing. Getting my perspective? You really need to have it to understand how much that team meant to us. To see the program rise so quickly from what had felt like total annihilation. Those guys stayed when so many left, and they played better than we ever hoped they could. They belong up there, and so does their coach. His banner is not for the guy we now know, but for the UK coach we knew then.
 
Leave it up there..as a reminder of a Coach who slapped us in the face over his own arrogance that we would accept him at the sewer he now inhabits..He made his bed.As he used to say.."what goes around..comes around"
So true Rick..
 
Really good post except that I don't think it's a fan hood issue at all. Just some with differing opinions. I don't have a problem at all with them being up there. But in hind sight, one banner would've been better imo.

and that's what this thread is, in hindsight it seems that we shouldn't have gone that far. But also understand the emotions at the time, and at the time it seemed a good idea.

Someone mentioned Mashburn - IIRC his name isn't up there? If we're going to honor that TEAM what they did, he should've been included.

and KWilt - don't question my fanhood, nor anyone else's because of their opinion on this. No one is saying they shouldn't be recognized, it's how they should've been.
 
Being a lifelong resident and fan of UK, I would say that most TRUE UK fans would take exception to someone even mentioning removing the jerseys. They were invaluable in bringing UK back to glory at the pinnacle of college basketball. I guess you would want to take down Cawoods or Bill Keightlys as well. NO NO NO
 
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Stop with this "true fan" crap. One of those names up there stole/misused over 100k in state funds for his personal benefit.

Can't say I'd have any problem with someone not wanting his jersey up there.
 
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I certainly would not take them down now that they are there, however, I felt at the time the decision was made hastily and was not what should have been done. There are other ways to honor those individuals that I think would have been more fitting. Retiring a jersey should be a reflection of individual accomplishments, most of which should be greatness as a player on the floor not just greatness in philosophical attitude. I am very appreciative of what those young men did but hanging their jersey's was a mistake.
 
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