Diallo projected lottery pick.
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i'm with you. kanter put in an entire year, and he really wanted to suit up, and the ncaa unfairly prevented him from doing so. diallo had all the opportunity to do it, but chose not to. in what other circumstance would we okay with an eligible player doing this? we were all upset at liggins when he refused to play in one game!
Though my thoughts are leaning on him probably staying in the draft, Bleacher Report really isn't a good source for this kind of thing. Love to have him if he stays, will have no ill-will towards the kid if he gets a 1st-Round guarantee from someone and decides to stay in. Hopefully Knox turns out to be even better or at least an even trade if Diallo goes now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with Knox committing to Kentucky, I can't even think of another guard/wing that Diallo might have caused us to miss out on. Seeing as it doesn't even seem like we really even really recruited anyone else to fill those spots besides the guys we landed and Trae Young before we shifted to Green. We never really seemed to seriously pursue guys like Duval or Bowen, so I don't really see what the harm was.
If Diallo had pushed Knox to someone like Duke or UNC, then I could understand people being upset. As of now the only thing I'm "upset" about is the fact that this kid with great potential may not suit up for us next season, not at him personally.
If Diallo had pushed Knox to someone like Duke or UNC, then I could understand people being upset. As of now the only thing I'm "upset" about is the fact that this kid with great potential may not suit up for us next season, not at him personally.
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Possibly, but it just never seemed to me like we were ever perceived as the frontrunners in that recruitment. Then again, neither was Miami, so you never know.
You do understand the issue don't you?Yeah, I heard the athletic department was about to file bankruptcy
I think I do. It's to come up with whatever absurd stretch of logic you can to try to make a big deal out of Cal taking a shot on Diallo. Worst case, if he goes to the NBA, Kentucky got a practice player to hone Fox and Monk for the final stretch for the cost of some sneakers and Ben Gay. If there was a 20 percent chance he would stay for a year, I'd want Cal to take the gamble every single time. And he still might!
Breaking News:
The Mr_GG report is now reporting that scouts are now projecting Diallo as the last pick in the draft.
I think this means he will definitely be back guys. We're going to be awesome next year!
The Mr_GG report is now reporting that scouts are now projecting Diallo as the last pick in the draft.
I think this means he will definitely be back guys. We're going to be awesome next year!
University of Kentucky,” Diallo said. “I can’t wait to hit the floor and get rolling and get better each and every day. I chose the University of Kentucky because the plan Coach Cal had for me was just phenomenal and I felt like this was the best place for me to achieve my goals. I felt like this was the best choice for me and my family.”
I'm sure Cal's plan was to get him to the NBA and I'm sure that was his goal. Cal has previously said he encourage players to test the waters. IMO if an NBA team wants to draft him and he stays in the draft then both parties have reached their end state.
Coach Cal isn't going to change his mindset over what fans think. If us as fans don't like what he is doing as a coach then you either boycott UK games to decrease attendance and following or you deal with the way he is running the program.
I am happy Cal is here and as the coach he is the one that takes the chance on players coming and going. If he can make it work and win games then us as fans should be ok with that.
Would we question a CEO who hires a guy, trains him then allows the employee to leave while the other employees still get paid and the company maintains a level of success?
I'm sure Cal's plan was to get him to the NBA and I'm sure that was his goal. Cal has previously said he encourage players to test the waters. IMO if an NBA team wants to draft him and he stays in the draft then both parties have reached their end state.
Coach Cal isn't going to change his mindset over what fans think. If us as fans don't like what he is doing as a coach then you either boycott UK games to decrease attendance and following or you deal with the way he is running the program.
I am happy Cal is here and as the coach he is the one that takes the chance on players coming and going. If he can make it work and win games then us as fans should be ok with that.
Would we question a CEO who hires a guy, trains him then allows the employee to leave while the other employees still get paid and the company maintains a level of success?
I would agree and that's not meant to be a shot at Diallo. It doesn't matter who it is you are wasting money drafting someone in the first round, let alone lottery, site unseen. Thon Maker was a ridiculous enough risk a year ago but the NBA had much more to go on with him than they do Diallo.
Yikes. Some of you will owe him an apology when he decides to come back. (Like he was always gonna do, by the way)
If Diallo comes back I will apologize for whatever anyone wants me to.
Diallo
Knox
Bamba
Trust me no one will mind being wrong.
Why do people think it's absurd that the NBA would draft a player without them playing college? 15 years ago that was normal. It worked out well for some, and not so much for others.
If an NBA team thinks Diallo might be a top 4-7 pick after next season, the would easily take him 10-15 this year with no problem. That's what this is going to come down to.
NBA waste picks all the time. People seen to forget this.
If Diallo comes back I will gladly eat crowe until I puke... But there's no way some team in the 20's doesn't see him and think they could be getting a future top 10 pick at a discount... If he has to be shipped off to the d-league for a couple of years so be it.
Not sure why most people are so mad over this situation. Calipari brought him in last year to practice with the team(which probably helped a lot)! He didn't waste a spot on the roster. If he comes back that is a plus for us but if he doesn't then we will get someone else. I bet if he becomes top 5-10 NBA player in a few years every one will be claiming him as a Wildcat!
The only issue I have is UK could have been recruiting other SG's. I realize there were not a lot out there by the time we got Diallo, but even the 5th best shooting guard in the class would have been nice. I think Alexander and Baker can take up the slack but I think we could of had a better option if Diallo had not been on the roster.
Thought I'd go ahead and post the mock for 2018, which has him in that lottery projection.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft (Hey! At least its not B/R)
I just can't see him climbing there simply because we have heard he's one of the best athletes BUT his jumper needed work.
So tell me who drafts a shooting guard who doesn't have a jumper? I must be missing something.
Here's one of those reviews I was talking about:
Weaknesses: Can create jump shots but struggles to connect with consistency ... Needs to improve in all areas as a shooter; free throws, midrange, and three point. Shot 16.7% from three over the Nike EYBL ...
If I had to go with that description, Diallo is coming back after testing the waters.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft (Hey! At least its not B/R)
I just can't see him climbing there simply because we have heard he's one of the best athletes BUT his jumper needed work.
So tell me who drafts a shooting guard who doesn't have a jumper? I must be missing something.
Here's one of those reviews I was talking about:
Weaknesses: Can create jump shots but struggles to connect with consistency ... Needs to improve in all areas as a shooter; free throws, midrange, and three point. Shot 16.7% from three over the Nike EYBL ...
If I had to go with that description, Diallo is coming back after testing the waters.
Exactly. It's risk/reward. Some team will think they could get a top-5 talent in next year's draft with a top-20 pick this year and take that chance. Who knows if that works out for them?
From that perspective, it's smart for Diallo to skip the 5-on-5. The more mystery surrounding him the more intrigue by some teams.
There's probably no draft in the last 30 years where Diallo is a top 5 pick. He's good, but you guys acting like teams are salivating over the chance to draft him with just one more year at UK are going overboard. I think his ceiling is mid-late lottery unless he drastically, drastically improves his jumper.
I can also see a world where he's a late 20's pick no matter the year because of his athleticism, but this is a kid who teams know still needs work. He doesn't play hard all the time. He forces jumpers instead of attacking. He's inconsistent with his attitude. There are questions marks. This isn't John Wall.
Now, if he's cool with that late-first spot and wants to go get paid, there's no reasonable person that will fault him for that. But I would imagine NBA teams need to see more to even know what his ceiling *might* be.
By the way, why are some of the same fans convinced he's gone because "teams know what he can be down the road" the same ones who cry that our guys should come back because "they aren't ready?"
I can also see a world where he's a late 20's pick no matter the year because of his athleticism, but this is a kid who teams know still needs work. He doesn't play hard all the time. He forces jumpers instead of attacking. He's inconsistent with his attitude. There are questions marks. This isn't John Wall.
Now, if he's cool with that late-first spot and wants to go get paid, there's no reasonable person that will fault him for that. But I would imagine NBA teams need to see more to even know what his ceiling *might* be.
By the way, why are some of the same fans convinced he's gone because "teams know what he can be down the road" the same ones who cry that our guys should come back because "they aren't ready?"
You're basically right, but 10 is a really high pick with which to take that big of a gamble, especially with a guard. In the straight to the pros era of 95-2005, the only pure guards who went in the lottery were Shaun Livingston and Sebastian Telfair. Monta Ellis and Lou Williams went in the 2nd round, JR Rider and DeShawn Stevenson went middle-late 1st.
OTOH, plenty of guys taken in the 9-11 range who don't amount to much. This decade, Cole Aldrich, Jimmer Fredette, Austin Rivers, Trey Burke, and Noah Vonleh have all ended in that range. So a gamble might not be as big a deal as it seems.
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Yeah, I think going 10 is a reach. I don't really see him being a lottery pick in this draft, but nothing would surprise me outside of that.
I just wanna be editor in chief of a site called, "T&A". The hell with BR.
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Didn't they change formats to be more credible after being under the SI label?
Yeah, but they're usually either big men or international guys (or both).
Even freakishly athletic guards have to show that they can play some point, be a great shooter, etc in combination with their physical tools to be drafted that high.
Not to say he's a bad player, or that he can't be a lottery pick--but I think some fans are overselling his draft stock or potential draft stock to make it more likely that he'll leave.
If he leaves, it's because he's fine with his draft stock being in the (likely late) 20's or second round. Not because some random, worthless mock draft has him as top 10 in it and therefore signifies he can be a top 5 pick with a year at UK so teams MUST be lining up to take him a year early. He's not that caliber of player.
BBN made it through Pitino's sense of fashion (denim?!?). I wear that as a badge of honor.
We'll make it through Diallo's decision, either way. Obviously, most of us hope he comes back (or stays--not sure if he'd technically be "coming back," since he hasn't actually left), but if he decides to stay in the draft, so be it. More power to him. Personally, I sure hope we're not becoming a none-and-done program, but we'll be just fine next year, regardless.
We'll make it through Diallo's decision, either way. Obviously, most of us hope he comes back (or stays--not sure if he'd technically be "coming back," since he hasn't actually left), but if he decides to stay in the draft, so be it. More power to him. Personally, I sure hope we're not becoming a none-and-done program, but we'll be just fine next year, regardless.
Im really happy, but not everybody thinks the same way, what you or i think is no big deal may have someone else steaming. There is no method to the madness, i try to respect everyones opinion even when they are steaming mad trolling because i dont think EXACTLY the way they do. And man ive never seen such silliness of someone so mad that cant indoctrinate you on a message board lol.
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Dude you quote me in every post. Would you like an autographed photo?
You have not respected anyone on here or our players - you act like a whiny bi%$&. And you kept saying "somebody prove to me this and that" and everyone did and you didnt like it. You couldnt and still cannot wrap your teeny little brain around the Diallo situation.
And you, as a newbie, calling all the old timers here trolls makes as much sense as your previous idiotic posts.
Get off my jock sweetheart, you are punching way above your class.
Zagoria says Indiana, Brooklyn and Dallas have inquired about Diallo. Dallas has the 9th pick. Indiana the 18th pick, and Brooklyn has picks 22 and 27. BTW, they contacted his AAU coach, not just Cal.
To add intrigue: Kings (8&10), Magic (5, 25) Nets (22,27), Lakers (3,28) & Blazers (15,20,26) all have multiple 1st round picks.
I predict the Blazers may show interest at 26. Tankathon.com has the Nets grabbing Diallo at 27. ahead of Swanigan, Dylan Brooks, Bam, Donovan Mitchell, and Thornwell.
I predict the Blazers may show interest at 26. Tankathon.com has the Nets grabbing Diallo at 27. ahead of Swanigan, Dylan Brooks, Bam, Donovan Mitchell, and Thornwell.
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