De'Aaron Fox Trimming List
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De'Aaron Fox trimming list...
I used to have a trim list when I was single.
I used to have a trim list when I was single.
Draft boards change drastically once incoming freshmen actually play a game of college basketball. The basis for your argument is immensely flawed. That said, we are going to have to agree to disagree, as you aren't likely to change your opinion and neither am I.
Self for some odd reason hasn't recruited PGs well. He's been excellent landing studs at every other position. Last blue chip elite PG he signed was who- Chalmers?
Self's a great coach and recruiter, but Cal has a big advantage at the PG position.
Self's a great coach and recruiter, but Cal has a big advantage at the PG position.
Bolden won't play at Duke. Duke will have Jeter, Giles, Obi, and Gabriel and doubt offer the immediate playing time Bolden is looking for and that doesn't even consider Ingram who is rail thin and may not be one and done.
That's a good point. It is also almost verbatim what Fox has said in a past interview. Paraphrasing, but basically that he is the type of point guard which Kansas has lacked in years.
Has a certain ring to it, doesn't it?
I certainly like UK's chances here, after seeing the article where he said he wants to go to a school where the teams have had one & dones and how "everybody wants to go to Kentucky"
He put a lot of emphasis on not wanting to go to a school to be the first one & done
I thought you guys found that elite guard in Josh Selby?
Here's a photo of Selby taking an ill-advised shot against 3rd tier foreign talent.
I like UK's chances when Fox said this :
Kentucky: There’s a lot you could say about them. Coach Cal is the one of the best guys at getting guys to the league. Being able to bring top talent together and teach them how to play the game and play together. He’s probably second to none. Kentucky just wins no matter who he puts on the court
Kentucky: There’s a lot you could say about them. Coach Cal is the one of the best guys at getting guys to the league. Being able to bring top talent together and teach them how to play the game and play together. He’s probably second to none. Kentucky just wins no matter who he puts on the court
Thing is, Coach K has no problem recruiting over guys.
Obi and Jeter will rot on the pine while Giles and Bolden play.
Duke probably doesn't get both Bolden and Gabriel, but they probably get one of them.
If Ingram is back, then I don't see why Gabriel would want to go to Duke and back up Ingram and Tatum (two similar players- long, tall guys who want to play on the wing).
I would rather see Gabriel and Bolden both at UK, but I would take a split of Gabriel to UK and Bolden to KU if it means Duke doesn't get both.
UK still has Killeya-Jones and Ayton (if he reclassifies) as possibilities at the 5.
In a battle for point guards, I know who my money is on.
Not counting Ryan Harrow, who's the last point to play for Cal that didn't play in the league?
Not counting Ryan Harrow, who's the last point to play for Cal that didn't play in the league?
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Yes it is. The fact that Texas, the previous Crystal Ball Leader, didn't even make his final 7, should tell you all you need to know.
Who's the best out of Fox, Smith, and Simmons? This is the first year since Cal's been here I haven't followed recruiting close enough to have preferences on recruits.
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All around and best potential complement to Ulis, Fox. Love his defensive game to match his athletic game.
Fox is a bigger, quicker much better shooting version of Kenny Anderson. (the Georgia Tech Anderson not the Bengals version). He is the closest thing to John Wall since the original. That UT (Shaka Smart) couldn't keep him in TX says he's coming to the bluegrass. Really great news.
I take Fox.
Smith is the biggest name, because he leaped (almost literally) onto the scene the earliest. There's no question he has huge potential, and I'd take him or Fox in a second. However, Fox is nearly as good an athlete (not quite as good a leaper, but might actually be quicker with the ball), doesn't have a torn ACL, and has played well on every big stage he's been on. He also seems to be improving.
Simmons, to me, is a pretty distant 3rd. Great athlete, excellent ballhandler for a 6'5"-6'6" guy, but not a shooter, and maybe not a real PG. No idea how recruiting services still have him rated ahead of Fox. I can see Smith over Fox, because that's close, but I can't see Simmons over Fox at all.
All 3 guys are major prospects, but Fox and Smith seem a lot more polished than Simmons.
Draft boards change. Mostly for incoming freshmen, not guys that have been in college for a few seasons now. Like I said, Greene and Mason may go pro, but it will be in something other than sports. Neither will have NBA careers.
The only player that will play the 5 that you mentioned is Jeter. The others will see little to no time over Bolden at center.
Fox is fastest and most well rounded. I'd say he's most like an athletic version of Nick Van Exel.
Smith Jr drops due to knee injury. Cruel as that sounds, you ride with the healthy guy over the injured. Talented but his biggest performances were on the Adidas Circuit whereas he really wasn't as dominant in Nike EYBL appearances.
Kobi Simmons is a super athlete with upside, but a lot of work--and he'll be thinking one and done. Think Archie Goodwin decision making without any jumper. Struggled this Summer and really seems to be a kid who would have to adapt most at UK in terms of distributing and not being "The man". Talks a lot about being "UK's guy" but don't see it. Think his visit is either canceled or UK will tell him he can't commit as they have other guards ahead of him.
Smith Jr drops due to knee injury. Cruel as that sounds, you ride with the healthy guy over the injured. Talented but his biggest performances were on the Adidas Circuit whereas he really wasn't as dominant in Nike EYBL appearances.
Kobi Simmons is a super athlete with upside, but a lot of work--and he'll be thinking one and done. Think Archie Goodwin decision making without any jumper. Struggled this Summer and really seems to be a kid who would have to adapt most at UK in terms of distributing and not being "The man". Talks a lot about being "UK's guy" but don't see it. Think his visit is either canceled or UK will tell him he can't commit as they have other guards ahead of him.
His visit was not cancelled. Just tweeted he is looking forward to his UK official.
Yeah...he's Anderson but even better. I believe Anderson averaged 26p & 8a at Tech so Fox should throw up 30&10 no problem.
I would say Fox is the one I prefer of the three as well. Thing is, Simmons is an excellent slasher and an elite athlete. He just has no shot and is not a great distributor either. At 6'5" I wonder if Cal could sell him on playing off ball as a wing. With Fox and Monk spreading the floor I could see Simmons as a nasty weapon. But not if he's intent on playing the point.
My Pick
PG --------First Pick-------------- Second Pick----------Third Pick
Fox Smith Simmons
SG ---------- Monk Fultz Alkins
SF ---------- Bridges Gabriel Maker
PF ---------- Giles TJ Leaf Jones
C ----------- Bolden Azubuike Allen
PG --------First Pick-------------- Second Pick----------Third Pick
Fox Smith Simmons
SG ---------- Monk Fultz Alkins
SF ---------- Bridges Gabriel Maker
PF ---------- Giles TJ Leaf Jones
C ----------- Bolden Azubuike Allen
Smith was the best of the three before he got hurt. But regardless of how far ACL surgery has come, it still makes him a question mark, particularly in college because he's only going to be there one year, and it normally takes a couple years to return both physically and mentally.
Before injury, it was Smith, Fox, Simmons. Now I'd say Fox, Simmons, Smith.
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