when we lose and when we win. Ready to trash the team and staff on our first "bad" season (by NEW AND RECENT standards only) and move on completely from a coach that has done an amazing job with a program that sucked dog sht off an on for decades and hadn't seen a 10 win season in 40 years.
I know yall are still smartin after that suck ass basketball season or two that we've had, but don't take out on football what you should've taken out on basketball. If you can stop yourself.
-So many asholes on this and every other board said they'd be happy if we went to a bowl game and were competitive in the SEC before Stoops was hired.
-Said we'd never get there.
-Said Stoops couldn't get us where we've been.
He's ended streaks, beat teams with much higher ranked recruiting classes every one of the last 5-6 years, taken us to 10 win seasons, beaten teams in bowl games that we used to lose to, and recruited AND DEVELOPED better talent year over year than any coach we've seen in a very long time, if ever.
Yall don't deserve winning football. There are about 70k UK fans spread out across the country that are true and faithful to this football program. The rest of you are ingrates that deserve the 2-10 years because you are complaining or spewing bs about the program 90% of the time.
A friend just sent me a text of a self-described "huge UK Football fan" trashing the team and the program on social media and gloating that they lost "because Stoops said" months ago that UK isn't just a basketball school. As if the 2 thingd are in any way related. Is that how FANS of a program act?
Yall wanted Brooks gone. You got what you wanted and deserved from JP. Careful What You Wish For ... actually, no. You get what you deserve when you keep asking for it. So ask away you fkn morons, ingrates, and serial abusers. The only reason the team has done this well over the past 5-6 seasons IS THIS STAFF, the players who turned down more historied programs to come here, and the fans that love and support this program publicly even when they have a bad showing.
1.) That's the problem with winning mate, you set a precedent. While our precedent isn't 10 win seasons, it also isn't losing to a horribly overmanned Vandy team at home. It isn't have 5 consecutive games where we can only muster 7 points in the first half with an alleged 1st round QB, top 5 all time RB and good talent at the skill positions. Our offensive scheme is horrid and Scang should have been fired after the UT debacle.
2.) Stoops has elevated the program from "just win 7 games and you get your check" to eight wins is realistic. But, let's be honest, he's also benefitted from a pretty atrocious SEC East. I'll forever hold him in high regard for how he's managed to have us ready to play UF but the man is 0-10 on the road vs. the West and has struggled mightily against the superior division.
3.) Starting to point the fingers at people about being "real" fans isn't any kind of argument. I remember arguing with PepsiMan99 12 years ago about how poor of a coach and decision it was to hire Joker Phillips. I'm no more or less of a fan if I can see the writing on the wall for Stoops. On paper, this is one of his all time best teams but on the field it's a mangled, undisciplined squad hampered by a horrific line (his OC and Line coach hires this year were HUGE whiffs) and he missed pretty drastically in the portal for our secondary. Are we better than we were 8 years ago? Absolutely. Should that be the barometer? I don't think so.
4.) Your friend is reacting to a person reacting (irrationally) on Social Media because they likely will find people that agree with them there. That's how irrational people act in the heat of the moment. He may feel different tomorrow or he may truly feel that way, he doesn't represent everyone and you likely know that.
5.) There wasn't much appetite to run off Rich Brooks. Much like now, a lot of people were arguing that we were likely at the extent of what we could accomplish after the end of the 07 season. From that 4th stop against LSU to losing four out of five including a heartbreaker to Tennessee, everyone could kind of see the writing on the wall. As it stands now, we are losing recruits and becoming less and less attractive as a program because our identity is confusing and because we've had 5 OC's under Stoops (and hopefully a sixth come next year).
6.) The reason we did well the past 5-6 seasons were because of the people at the helm like Schlarman, Sumrall, Coen and many others. They are now gone either taken from us or onto better things. The replacements have been, less than that. I have 0 doubt we'd have one loss right now if Coen is OC (Tennessee in that environment would be tough regardless). There was a lot of unknown when he was hired but excitement, I don't recall the same when Scang got the nod.
I'm saying all of that to say this, your response to the way people are reacting is just the same energy from an opposite perspective. It's not wrong to be frustrated with this loss to a level that you want to see change. I think it's misguided to want Stoops gone but you could also make the argument that a lot of the issues we face today could be directly related to the way he runs this program (no ST coordinator, poor hires this offseason, completely undisciplined play out of bye weeks and during trap games like today, poor clock management, super conservative playcalling especially on offense, etc.). Do I want him gone? No. But I think he needs to cut ties with Scangarello and Yenser and let Gran see what he can do with this group, something he never had.
Just another perspective.
