Cutter Boley to start vs UofL

[truebluewildcat]

It's not just about CB starting. We need to see an offense unleashed. Starting CB and doing the same thing offensively that CMS has done with every offense and QB over the past 12 years doesn't really do anyone nor the program moving forward anygood.

We need to see an entirely different game plan. Something other than offense holding on until defense gets back on the field.

 

[FirewithFire]

Someone asked on here the other day what the hype would be for next season. It appears that come back and see Cutter Boley next year will be it. That is provided that he has a decent game against UL. Otherwise not so much.

Gotta give Stoops credit for knowing how to work a crowd. Now if he could only coach.

 

[ManitouDan]

Would you rather him not start Boley? Seems like you're complaining just to complain.

I didnt take it that way ... should it have happened earlier , thats a different discussion . I look forward to the Cats kicking that UL lil bro ass ... GO Cats Go. Purple lot party !!

 

[MychalG]

Good decision. If Boley is going into next season as the possible # 1 QB, this season is over, so let's see what he has. He has good skills, just needs experience. After watching BVG this season. I welcome the change.

 

[3632]

Someone asked on here the other day what the hype would be for next season. It appears that come back and see Cutter Boley next year will be it. That is provided that he has a decent game against UL. Otherwise not so much.

Gotta give Stoops credit for knowing how to work a crowd. Now if he could only coach.

Yeah they’re aware of trying to get people to ‘re-up’ in the off season and giving the offensive returners a sell on why they should believe it’s finally going to change and stay. They’re becoming pros at it.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

STUD

 

[bishop45acp]

Don't give them any ideas lol. Hopefully the Wimsatt crap is over unless all of our QBs get hurt during the UL game.

I'm from Owensboro, and I watched Wimsatt play in high school. He's a great athlete. But, he's more suited to an option type guy, or WR than he is a traditional drop back passer. He can throw it a little bit, but when you do that your kind of taking him out of his skill set.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Idk how anyone can be excited next season if Stoops is the coach. 6 and 6 campaign at best.

All the harder games at home and swing games on the road.

We have the same schedule next year, so 6-6 isnt a bad year. Ya that isnt great but it's not awful. We really didn't get any breaks on scheduling.

 

[PhattyJ4UK]

If starting him v Louisville was not the choice I would have completely lost confidence in this coaching staff.

I can’t believe you haven’t lost it already. You got more patience than me.

Possibly the only smart decision by the coaching staff this year (besides the bomb to Barion during the Ole Miss game)

Funny thing is, that was one of the dumbest decisions he’s made. We just got lucky. Defense was playing great and at our own 20. 4 minutes left. Timeouts. Analytics scream to punt there. But it worked and I hoped it would lead to stoopid taking more gambles. But nope. He punted down two scores last week from the opponents 43(granted it was 4th and 20 but we just had two plays that just nearly missed a first down.).


Stoops has zero clue. He panics. Gets red assed and faced. He’s just no where close to head coach material.

 

[AshWilliams]

If starting him v Louisville was not the choice I would have completely lost confidence in this coaching staff.

A blind squirrel would have recognized that this was the right move. I give Stoops zero credit.

 

[ganner918]

Boley starts…”Only reason he’s making the change is because he’s feeling the pressure and trying to save his job.”

Brock starts…”Same old stubborn Stoops. Pathetic he won’t start Boley.”

We've officially reached the "bitch eating crackers" stage

 

[CRZ4UK]

Possibly the only smart decision by the coaching staff this year (besides the bomb to Barion during the Ole Miss game)

Wow. Kind of forgot about that. Without that play we win 3 games.

 

[Girthang]

Boley and Vandagriff were rated the same coming out of high school- 14th at their position in tbe country. BV was a 5 star by some services. CB was a consensus 4 star.

Boley is in his first year of college football. The reason he didn't start earlier in the season is that this isn't basketball. It's football.

Both Vandagriff and Boley are in their first year in this kind of system and at this school. We've struggled in passpro this season, and wasted opportunities to run the ball in order to establish the passing game.

Why? We need to recruit depth to a competent passing attack. UK is trying to shift to a greater % passing attack, while maintaining a strong rushing attack, and that isn't easy at better football programs, much less at UK.

We also have an uptempo OC WITHOUT the depth to run an uptempo offense, and with a defense that lost all of its DL depth very early on. We just never got there.

The ENTIRE LOD has hated Stoops since he was hired.
They've hated that we run the ball

They've biched and moaned for a decade about not passing the ball down the field, regardless of how many games we've won, and no matter how many teams we've upset. Now that we're trying to switch to more passing, basketball people want it to happen immediately.

There's no winning with the LOD. They will always hate our coach and refuse to support him, if he doesn't have name recognition and a title under his belt.

Ffs, not even Mack Brown, with 2 decades of HC experience, who won a national title at Texas, could get UNC to a 10 win season IN THE FREAKIN ACC! And this clown show fanbase wants to drop a UK coach that has gotten. 2, 10 win seasons and 2nd in the SEC East while playing IN THE SEC in his first 10 seasons.

The LOD at UK just doesn't deserve an SEC Title. They can't commit nor can they support a coach & team for an entire football season. We just can't accept that this isn't Georgia or Alabama, and won't come close until we have some consistency DEVELOPMENT in position coaching and OC.

We're not far away, even with only 4 wins this season.

 

[UKFBFan78]

Is Wimsatt hurt as well? I know Boley is better and all, and glad he's starting, but I haven't even seen Wimsatt on any Wildcat or designed runs that they used him for a lot before.

Why would you see wimsatt. They gave him plenty of chances. He just isn't good.

 

[southindycat]

BVG and Wimsatt don't work. Do they both have eligibility beyond this year? If so, they either call it a day, transfer down, change position, or accept reserve role. I think BVG transfers down and Wimsatt changes position, if playing in 2025.

 

[mrschwump]

BVG and Wimsatt don't work. Do they both have eligibility beyond this year? If so, they either call it a day, transfer down, change position, or accept reserve role. I think BVG transfers down and Wimsatt changes position, if playing in 2025.

Both have one year left.

 

[Phil_The_Music]

Boley and Vandagriff were rated the same coming out of high school- 14th at their position in tbe country. BV was a 5 star by some services. CB was a consensus 4 star.

Boley is in his first year of college football. The reason he didn't start earlier in the season is that this isn't basketball. It's football.

Both Vandagriff and Boley are in their first year in this kind of system and at this school. We've struggled in passpro this season, and wasted opportunities to run the ball in order to establish the passing game.

Why? We need to recruit depth to a competent passing attack. UK is trying to shift to a greater % passing attack, while maintaining a strong rushing attack, and that isn't easy at better football programs, much less at UK.

We also have an uptempo OC WITHOUT the depth to run an uptempo offense, and with a defense that lost all of its DL depth very early on. We just never got there.

The ENTIRE LOD has hated Stoops since he was hired.
They've hated that we run the ball

They've biched and moaned for a decade about not passing the ball down the field, regardless of how many games we've won, and no matter how many teams we've upset. Now that we're trying to switch to more passing, basketball people want it to happen immediately.

There's no winning with the LOD. They will always hate our coach and refuse to support him, if he doesn't have name recognition and a title under his belt.

Ffs, not even Mack Brown, with 2 decades of HC experience, who won a national title at Texas, could get UNC to a 10 win season IN THE FREAKIN ACC! And this clown show fanbase wants to drop a UK coach that has gotten. 2, 10 win seasons and 2nd in the SEC East while playing IN THE SEC in his first 10 seasons.

The LOD at UK just doesn't deserve an SEC Title. They can't commit nor can they support a coach & team for an entire football season. We just can't accept that this isn't Georgia or Alabama, and won't come close until we have some consistency DEVELOPMENT in position coaching and OC.

We're not far away, even with only 4 wins this season.

I think you make some very valid points but are being a little hyperbolic in your description of how the fans have been towards Stoops. Or, at the very least you are equating the attitude of 10% of the fan base to about 80%. Most fans appreciate the success he has brought, and acknowledge that he has elevated the program. But here are some things that you conviently left out of your post. Stoops is making the same mistakes now that he made in year one as a coach. He's improved the program, but he hasn't improved at all as a head coach. All these years and he still can't manage the QB position, can't properly prepare his teams, has horrible team discipline, poor clock management and just can't put together a competent offense. These problems aren't just one offs, they have existed his entire tenure. Sure, we could regress with another coach but fans also know we will never get to the next level as long as we have these issues. We aren't trying to be Bama or Georgia right now. We would just like to compete with Vandy, Tenn, and SC at this point.

You also left out that we have clearly regressed as a program the last two years. Down years happen, but now we are seeing a trend and there really isn't much to suggest the trend will be reversed.

And the most glaring issue you left out. Stoops doesn't even want to be here. He tried to bolt last year and how effective can a coach be if he isn't happy where he's at? You ever worked with someone that didn't want to be at their job? They are miserable and they make everyone around them miserable too. NIL is here to stay and instead of embracing the change and finding creative solutions, Stoops just biches about it and insults his entire roster at the same time.

I agree with you on most topics and love you as a poster, but I disagree with you entirely this time my friend. Stoops has reached his peak and is now heading back downhill. You have to ignore a lot of things to not realize this. I'd rather take a chance that we may regress with a new coach but also have a chance to be better than what we are. Stoops isn't getting us to the next level, in fact, all signs indicate he is bringing us back to where we were before he started.

 

[cathouse]

I think you make some very valid points but are being a little hyperbolic in your description of how the fans have been towards Stoops. Or, at the very least you are equating the attitude of 10% of the fan base to about 80%. Most fans appreciate the success he has brought, and acknowledge that he has elevated the program. But here are some things that you conviently left out of your post. Stoops is making the same mistakes now that he made in year one as a coach. He's improved the program, but he hasn't improved at all as a head coach. All these years and he still can't manage the QB position, can't properly prepare his teams, has horrible team discipline, poor clock management and just can't put together a competent offense. These problems aren't just one offs, they have existed his entire tenure. Sure, we could regress with another coach but fans also know we will never get to the next level as long as we have these issues. We aren't trying to be Bama or Georgia right now. We would just like to compete with Vandy, Tenn, and SC at this point.

You also left out that we have clearly regressed as a program the last two years. Down years happen, but now we are seeing a trend and there really isn't much to suggest the trend will be reversed.

And the most glaring issue you left out. Stoops doesn't even want to be here. He tried to bolt last year and how effective can a coach be if he isn't happy where he's at? You ever worked with someone that didn't want to be at their job? They are miserable and they make everyone around them miserable too. NIL is here to stay and instead of embracing the change and finding creative solutions, Stoops just biches about it and insults his entire roster at the same time.

I agree with you on most topics and love you as a poster, but I disagree with you entirely this time my friend. Stoops has reached his peak and is now heading back downhill. You have to ignore a lot of things to not realize this. I'd rather take a chance that we may regress with a new coach but also have a chance to be better than what we are. Stoops isn't getting us to the next level, in fact, all signs indicate he is bringing us back to where we were before he started.

Big Truth Bomb right here.
Prepare for the counter attack..

Excellent post.

 

[mrschwump]

I think you make some very valid points but are being a little hyperbolic in your description of how the fans have been towards Stoops. Or, at the very least you are equating the attitude of 10% of the fan base to about 80%. Most fans appreciate the success he has brought, and acknowledge that he has elevated the program. But here are some things that you conviently left out of your post. Stoops is making the same mistakes now that he made in year one as a coach. He's improved the program, but he hasn't improved at all as a head coach. All these years and he still can't manage the QB position, can't properly prepare his teams, has horrible team discipline, poor clock management and just can't put together a competent offense. These problems aren't just one offs, they have existed his entire tenure. Sure, we could regress with another coach but fans also know we will never get to the next level as long as we have these issues. We aren't trying to be Bama or Georgia right now. We would just like to compete with Vandy, Tenn, and SC at this point.

You also left out that we have clearly regressed as a program the last two years. Down years happen, but now we are seeing a trend and there really isn't much to suggest the trend will be reversed.

And the most glaring issue you left out. Stoops doesn't even want to be here. He tried to bolt last year and how effective can a coach be if he isn't happy where he's at? You ever worked with someone that didn't want to be at their job? They are miserable and they make everyone around them miserable too. NIL is here to stay and instead of embracing the change and finding creative solutions, Stoops just biches about it and insults his entire roster at the same time.

I agree with you on most topics and love you as a poster, but I disagree with you entirely this time my friend. Stoops has reached his peak and is now heading back downhill. You have to ignore a lot of things to not realize this. I'd rather take a chance that we may regress with a new coach but also have a chance to be better than what we are. Stoops isn't getting us to the next level, in fact, all signs indicate he is bringing us back to where we were before he started.

Re Stoops/NIL, as recently as last week Stoops states that NIL is on the upswing, Eddie Gran is now the General Manager and he(Stoops) feels UK is now on the right path. Now...if that's true, if it's so much BS, if it's coach-speak I have no idea. That's up to the individual and whatever agenda they may have as to what they want to believe.

As for the whole "Stoops doesn't want to be here"...so what? It's what coaches do for whatever reason, Float the rumor to get a raise, get more perks, or just to get their ego stroked. Hell, Calipari chased Texas, UCLA, and about every NBA job that came open the last 10 years he was here. It's much ado about nothing.

 

[Phil_The_Music]

Re Stoops/NIL, as recently as last week Stoops states that NIL is on the upswing, Eddie Gran is now the General Manager and he(Stoops) feels UK is now on the right path. Now...if that's true, if it's so much BS, if it's coach-speak I have no idea. That's up to the individual and whatever agenda they may have as to what they want to believe.

As for the whole "Stoops doesn't want to be here"...so what? It's what coaches do for whatever reason, Float the rumor to get a raise, get more perks, or just to get their ego stroked. Hell, Calipari chased Texas, UCLA, and about every NBA job that came open the last 10 years he was here. It's much ado about nothing.

Comparing Cal to Stoops certainly doesn't help your case to keep Stoops. A lot of fans were criticized for wanting to move on from Cal years ago and obviously they were right all along.

 

[trueblujr2]

Why would you see wimsatt. They gave him plenty of chances. He just isn't good.

Never said I wanted to see him, was just curious because he hasn’t touched the field in the past few games. Not even for a Wildcat designed run play.

 

[trueblujr2]

Re Stoops/NIL, as recently as last week Stoops states that NIL is on the upswing, Eddie Gran is now the General Manager and he(Stoops) feels UK is now on the right path. Now...if that's true, if it's so much BS, if it's coach-speak I have no idea. That's up to the individual and whatever agenda they may have as to what they want to believe.

As for the whole "Stoops doesn't want to be here"...so what? It's what coaches do for whatever reason, Float the rumor to get a raise, get more perks, or just to get their ego stroked. Hell, Calipari chased Texas, UCLA, and about every NBA job that came open the last 10 years he was here. It's much ado about nothing.

Cal didn’t Chase any of those jobs. He was sought after by those schools and the NBA when he was having success here. He wasn’t going anywhere, He just used those for more leverage.

 

[warrior-cat]

There's no question in my mind that BV has some type of injury, probably from the assault and battery he endured at TN. But it's obviously time to move on, just hope Boley's up to the task. If Boley were to lead UK to an upset win as a true freshman it would cement his legacy at a very young age.

I just worry about the start of the game. I believe UL will try to pressure early to disrupt and confuse and get in his head. If he handles it without mistakes, UL will be in trouble.

 

[mrschwump]

I just worry about the start of the game. I believe UL will try to pressure early to disrupt and confuse and get in his head. If he handles it without mistakes, UL will be in trouble.

I think Boley has the talent and make up, I'm more concerned about those who surround him. UK makes so many mistakes, penalties, turnovers, missed tackles/blocks, etc...I just hope he's not being set up to fail. I think he'll play well but he has to have help.

 

[bnewt]

... damage control to try to salvage his job. This announcement very un-Stoops like.

Throwing the kid to the wolves. Knows there is little chance of winning the game, but it might ease the fans disdain over the season

 

[sefus12]

Throwing the kid to the wolves. Knows there is little chance of winning the game, but it might ease the fans disdain over the season

Not saying we will win, but how can you think that UK has little chance to win when we beat Ole Miss on the road and played both UGA and Tenn very well? UL may be better than us, but they aren’t in the same league as OM, UGA, or UT.