Curt Cignetti V Jon Sumrall v Someone else

[bthaunert]

I’m well aware of that, but Mitch knew Hurley was going to say no and Drew was a close friend so he was obligated to try because the fans demanded it, at least with Hurley. but prying someone away from a place they’ve been for a very long time is difficult as it was with Drew. Pope was his fallback but he didn’t hesitate after asking Drew and Hurley. Feel like tge fans are pretty much demanding Sumrall at this point.

I’m not sure there has ever been a more obvious choice tbh. A P4 program is going to get him very soon. The dude can recruit better than anyone that has coached here (yes, better than Vince), has the “it” factor, is an alum of the university and is crushing it in the G5. He probably has the best G5 record over the past 3 seasons of any coach out there. If the decision is to go that route…he’s the guy imo.

 

[NoviG8r]

As mentioned above, Cignetti's 64...he's going nowhere. He'll retire at IU.

Not a major difference, but Cignetti is actually 63. I think that 8-10 years is a good stretch in today's world of college football, and he could likely manage that somewhere .... if he chose to leave IU.
The man is very intriguing. His father was a longtime cfb head coach, including at WVU, where he gave Nick Saban his first job. His brother is an assistant at Pitt. Curt Cignetti served as an assistant at several P4 schools before spending 4-5 years at Alabama under Saban in the latter half of the 2000's.
Subsequently, he has been a head coach at a couple of lower division schools, immediately turning around the programs and taking them to the playoffs. He built James Madison into a relative power, replicating the same success in his first year. He is only in year one in Bloomington, but everyone can see the immediate impact he had.
Two other things: He can recruit (was recruiting coordinator at 'Bama) and the man has more fire and energy than most coaches of any age.
Not everyone is enamored with him, but I would like for UF to take a look at him if/when we let Napier go.

 

[LukaszObrzut]

He left Oklahoma to avoid playing in the SEC. No thank you

He left for what looked like a great fit on paper. Only team they have beat is a Sec team.

 

[jeffky]

Don't say that remember John Ray, Bill Curry and Joker to name a few

John Ray damn that's going way back remember dinke McCay?

 

[CatJustice]

Not a major difference, but Cignetti is actually 63. I think that 8-10 years is a good stretch in today's world of college football, and he could likely manage that somewhere .... if he chose to leave IU.
The man is very intriguing. His father was a longtime cfb head coach, including at WVU, where he gave Nick Saban his first job. His brother is an assistant at Pitt. Curt Cignetti served as an assistant at several P4 schools before spending 4-5 years at Alabama under Saban in the latter half of the 2000's.
Subsequently, he has been a head coach at a couple of lower division schools, immediately turning around the programs and taking them to the playoffs. He built James Madison into a relative power, replicating the same success in his first year. He is only in year one in Bloomington, but everyone can see the immediate impact he had.
Two other things: He can recruit (was recruiting coordinator at 'Bama) and the man has more fire and energy than most coaches of any age.
Not everyone is enamored with him, but I would like for UF to take a look at him if/when we let Napier go.

This. And Kentucky is a better job than Indiana. I would make a run after him.

 

[cathouse]

If you can get Cignetti he is the correct answer. But my guess is he will land a top tier job if this season pans out like it seems it may. He will also be 64 at start of next season...have to wonder how long he will want to coach.

The LAST thing we need at UK is another 60 year old coach looking for a retirement contract.

No thank you. Unless it is Nick Saban.

 

[cathouse]

John Ray damn that's going way back remember dinke McCay?

I go back to Blanton Collier and Charlie Bradshaw.

 

[runthedangball2]

Sumrall is the logical choice for head coach. He would probably make Neal Brown the OC after Neal gets fired at West Virginia. Not the biggest Neal Brown fan but we could do worse at OC.

 

[The-Hack]

There is a difference in hiring someone just because they are are an alumni and played here and someone who is one of the top G4 coaches in college football. Dude is 28-6/20-2 as a HC. He will be on a lot of P4 radars, not just UK.

Yes.

Anyone who says Sumrall is “just” an alum is speaking either from pure igonornce, or actual malice toward UK’s future.

He has won at an 82% clip at two G5 schools, four of his six losses to ranked P4 programs, and one on the road at Appy State by a Hail Mary.

He’s one of the most prominent up-and-coming Coaches in the nation.

God-Willing, the timing works out right for him to come to Kentucky!!

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Lincoln Riley will be looking for a job soon.

Lincoln Riley willingly coming to an SEC school?

 

[HagginHall1999]

The LAST thing we need at UK is another 60 year old coach looking for a retirement contract.

No thank you. Unless it is Nick Saban.

Possibly...but Rich Brooks did well here.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

I’m not sure there has ever been a more obvious choice tbh. A P4 program is going to get him very soon. The dude can recruit better than anyone that has coached here (yes, better than Vince), has the “it” factor, is an alum of the university and is crushing it in the G5. He probably has the best G5 record over the past 3 seasons of any coach out there. If the decision is to go that route…he’s the guy imo.

Hard to argue that Cignetti isn't a top of the line coach and doing it at a place not known for football, but at best he is a 4-5 year hire.

Sumrall is at or very near the top of the pile group coaches. He would very likely jump on the offer, if a change is made can't see why he wouldn't be the next coach at UK. But if a change is a couple years down the road and another P5 grabs him, may be a tough pull. Don't think there will be a high turnover for head coaches in SEC this year unless there is some swapping. But who knows, he will get a shot soon.

 

[Creed Bratton]

Most fans just want to win and don't even know who john sumrall is. He is the choice of the ride or die Barny/stoops supporters that have finally given up realizing the current situation is untenable. I am not against sumrall but you go for the best available that have proven it at the highest level first not someone just because there are an alumni or played here.

And who would that be realistically.

 

[Coach Marrow]

Sumrall is the best option I can think of who’s not currently coaching in the Power 5. You never know who else could be interested until the job opens.

Edit: I would be happy with Sumrall but wouldn’t want any holdovers from the current staff. I’m sure Mitch would want as many staff holdovers as possible though…

 

[Pelosigalore]

Sumrall is the best option I can think of who’s not currently coaching in the Power 5. You never know who else could be interested until the job opens.

Edit: I would be happy with Sumrall but wouldn’t want any holdovers from the current staff. I’m sure Mitch would want as many staff holdovers as possible though…

I agree, I don’t want the new coach to be handcuffed by having to retain anyone from the current staff. Unless the new coach absolutely wants them to stay aboard, they gotta go, even Vince. I feel like there’s way too many misses with our best recruiting classes under Vince.

 

[bthaunert]

Sumrall is the best option I can think of who’s not currently coaching in the Power 5. You never know who else could be interested until the job opens.

Edit: I would be happy with Sumrall but wouldn’t want any holdovers from the current staff. I’m sure Mitch would want as many staff holdovers as possible though…

I don't think Mitch would do that. I think there could be a couple holdovers because of the relationship that Sumrall has with them, but I highly doubt Mitch would force it upon him.