Cooper Flagg
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How many truly great players have supposedly gone through the Duke system vs those who truly demonstrated their label of great in college? I don't know the exact number, but it is very small. On the flipside, look at the number of Kentucky players who weren't considered great, but became great in the NBA.
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This reminds me of a team I played against in high school my sophomore year. They had about 3 big guys that made up their frontline, the types that struggled to get up and down the floor. They used longer than normal nets so that the ball wouldn't go through them as quickly, sometimes almost hanging in them. My coach said it was to slow the game down for their bigs. If I mentioned the school's name people on here likely would know who the big guys were on that team back then, especially if you're from southern Kentucky.
I heard they got free tickets for life at all Clemson games
Flagg is really good. May be great. Damn sure would love to have him in a UK uniform.
But announcers/analysts today all yearn for a “generational” talent to play up trying to make every moment of their broadcast far more consequential than it is. But them comparing Flagg to those at this point is ridiculous and unfair to Flagg.
If he was in a UK uniform, he wouldn't be getting all of the attention he is getting.
Probably not. 75% of the Flagg vitriol is created by announcers/analysts/ESPN hyping him and forcing him down our throats. The rest is Duke hate (I get and partake lol) and him doing stuff like grabbing his nuts when he dunks and no T called.
I get so tired of hearing him called by both names on every move he makes. It is so similar to how Billy Packer always referred them as Duke University every game and every other team as Kentucky, Indiana, Arizona etc.
Serious question: because of his age will he have to stay at Duke one more year?
Oh I agree
Just pointing out the obvious for the people in the back
Just when you think Duke media love can't get worse they take it
to a whole new level
He's just your average 6'10" guy with around a 40" vertical and good fundamentals that plays hard on both end of the court. Those types are a dime a dozen, right? Just my opinion but the media is going to gush forever about any great white player at any blueblood school, including UK, because they just don't come along that often. Reed Sheppard got hyped into the 3rd overall draft pick.
Not saying anyone is but he's getting more hype than Wemby. I get Wemby was foreign but still.
Oh, I agree with you but I think it's just that Wemby wasn't the next great white hope.
Edit note: when I said "great white hope" I was speaking about the media's attitude. I have no racial feelings, no animosity toward ANY other races and no pride regarding my own race. I was born pale skinned but it was not some accomplishment on my part. In fact I've always wished I was darker so I wouldn't fry in the sun so easy.
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I think he’s overrated but only slightly. He’s arguably the best player in CBB but I don’t think he’s a generational talent or a sure fire perennial NBA all-star.
Put it this way; I think if Johnni Broome or Braden Smith played for Duke and Flagg played for Auburn or Purdue, I think THEY’D be leading the Wooden Award outs right now.
Agree but honestly Flagg is likely the best I have seen play for Duke since Grant Hill maybe Zion if he was ever healthy.
I worked for the Carolina Panthers and one of our players was Will Witherspoon from Georgia. When I told him I went to Kentucky he got a funny look on his face. Apparently we grew the grass on our field extra high to slow Georgia down. I had heard that some baseball teams would do that so that their more speedy players could leg out infield base hits.
He’s a freshman that is leading his team to a high ranking and he is living up to expectations put on him coming into the season . He isn’t overrated . I get people are annoyed at the love fest since he’s at Duke but he’s the real deal at this level .
People bring up Harper and Bailey and they are wasting away at Rutgers and we most likely won’t get to see them at the big stage .
People bring up Harper and Bailey and they are wasting away at Rutgers and we most likely won’t get to see them at the big stage .
Back when Kentucky played Florida in Commonwealth Stadium later in the football season they would make Florida use the sideline that was in the shade to make it colder for them.
He turned 18 in December, which means he turns 19 in December of 2025. The rule is you must be at least 19 during the calendar year of the draft, so yes, he is draft eligible.
It's not a freak accident, he did the same thing against us in the final seconds. Not yet ready for the ball in his hands in crunchtime. Immaturity.
If he were in our uniform, we would be touting him as the second coming of MJ. You and I both know that is true. We love our kids more than most fanbases in America. We rarely think other team's players are good or great. We just need to be honest about how we view our kids. This is how it should be but for us to cut our opponents kids because they don't wear a KY uniform is really unfair. Other teams have great players. Flagg is a great player even if he does wear a shvty uniform. Every team in the SEC has atleast one player that we would love to have on our team. Some teams have several kids that would be put on a pedestal if they played at KY.
That is simply not true. We have had better players than Cooper Flagg under Cal and I have never heard anyone on this board tout any of them as the 2nd coming of MJ. Good to great players? Yes but not the 2nd coming of MJ.
You must have missed all those big shots he made, as well as the slip clearly due to moisture on the floor. I don't see how a wet floor shows that he isn't ready for crunchtime, considering he hit what... three clutch threes at the end.
He clearly pushed off on one of those threes that the ref didn't call. I guess when he's had 1 game out of 23 where his time was limited due to fouls, a reasonable person shouldn't really expect them to call an obvious push off on him.
In ACC play he is averaging 13.50 shots per game. The rest of the team combined only have 2 games (K's Nipple 15 shots NC St, Proctor 15 shots Clemson) where someone has taken more than 13.5 shots.
“More hype” by whom …ESPN’s college basketball coverage? Well, yeah, that stands to reason, given that Wemby never played college ball.
He’s certainly not getting more hype than Wemby got from the pro-related outlets.
This exactly!
Flagg was the number one player coming out of HS and could have gone to ANY school he chose. To his credit he has been the best freshman in college basketball this year. But as stated we are tired of all the comparisons.
Let the kid play and in 10 years we will know!
Calipari has not had 1 player with the hype that Cooper Flagg had. Not 1.
I think the love and hype from the media would be the same if he chose Kentucky .
One thing Cal was really good at was finding these guys ranked into the 20's and 30's out of high school and getting their career started. Guys like SGA and Booker.
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking when it pertains to Duke, but they have been pretty good at guys living up to their draft status and HS ranking coming into college believe it or not. Here are the guys that have been drafted top 5 out of Duke in the last 15 years:
2022 - Banchero - 1st pick - All Star
2019 - Zion - 1st pick - All Star
2019 - RJ Barrett - 3rd pick - averaging 21.6ppg this year
2018 - Marvin Bagley - 3rd pick - major bust
2017 - Jason Tatum - 3rd pick - all NBA
2016 - Brandon Ingram - 2nd pick - All Star
2015 - Jahlil Okafor - 3rd pick - major bust
2014 - Jabari Parker - 2nd pick - bust (injuries)
2011 - Kyrie Irving - 1st pick - all NBA
I was going to add this story by you beat me to it. I love sports stories like this for some reason.
Flagg is a great player with a lot of upside. No hate here.
That said, Duke will get him at his greenest and a lot of bad decisions come with that youth. I don't see Duke advancing past the Sweet 16 unless the route is incredibly easy (like most years). Too much parity in the NCAA and the tournament hasn't been kind to young teams of late.
That said, Duke will get him at his greenest and a lot of bad decisions come with that youth. I don't see Duke advancing past the Sweet 16 unless the route is incredibly easy (like most years). Too much parity in the NCAA and the tournament hasn't been kind to young teams of late.
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