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Coach of the year list (does not include Pope)

Pope's done a good job but he is not Coach of the Year good this season. I don't have an issue with nearly everyone on that list being ahead of him. Pope should be in the top 15ish or so.
You didn't have an issue with Painter, Hardaway, Kelsey, or Richard Pitino making the list ahead of Pope?

Seriously?

What's weird to me is that you never launched critique against Calipari while he was here, and now you do it all the time with Pope.

What's up with that?
 
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I was going to say, Pope probably won't even finish top 4 in SEC COY voting. Pearl, Gates, Golden and Buzz will probably be top 4. Just a loaded conference in terms of coaches.
And Pope is 2-0 against those guys so far, and he's 4-0 against Scheyer, Buzz, Golden, and Kelsey. Tell me again how I'm supposed to follow that logic, especially since Pope put together this entire team in six weeks and is presently preserving a top 17 ranking while without his two best players?
 
Being at UK does him no favors in this area, we are held to a different standard because at
UK you are expected to win
That’s absolutely the reason. If he’d been hired at Memphis or South Carolina or whatever, had to throw a full team together as quick as he did, and had the results he’s had, he would 100% be one of the front runners.
 
I don't know to me it's always weird at how we judge this stuff.

IMO coaching is about doing a lot with a little. How much more can you get out of a team based on the talent that team has.

But it's never judged that way.

Those other SEC coaches mentioned.........Pearl, Oats, Golden etc. They have had really good years. They've also have very talented rosters.

Pope given the injuries we have and we are still competing for a very good seed that says something to me. The fact we can lose guys, key guys and still not only be competitive but win games against top competition should mean something.

I don't think anyone here would be all that upset if Pope didn't win the award, but to not even be mentioned is a bit silly IMO.

This is like when during baseball season (Mets fan here) and Lindor didn't make the All-Star team. It really calls into question who on earth makes these decisions lol.
 
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And Pope is 2-0 against those guys so far, and he's 4-0 against Scheyer, Buzz, Golden, and Kelsey. Tell me again how I'm supposed to follow that logic, especially since Pope put together this entire team in six weeks and is presently preserving a top 17 ranking while without his two best players?
I’m just saying that these votes often go to guys who have achieved the most based on expectations vs reality. If a coach is picked to finish 8th in the conference and finishes 8th in the conference, he’s not going to win the award. Agree or disagree, that’s the logic behind it.
 
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I’m just saying that these votes often go to guys who have achieved the most based on expectations vs reality. If a coach is picked to finish 8th in the conference and finishes 8th in the conference, he’s not going to win the award. Agree or disagree, that’s the logic behind it.

Looking at it that way I could at least see the reasoning but I think it's faulty logic.

He shouldn't be docked because we are in a good conference with other good teams. Maybe we were picked to finish 8th. Maybe we do finish 8th.

But we opened the season with a Kenpom ranking of 43rd. We are currently 17th. We had a massive jump this despite playing a portion of the season with multiple guys dealing with injury.
 
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Looking at it that way I could at least see the reasoning but I think it's faulty logic.

He shouldn't be docked because we are in a good conference with other good teams. Maybe we were picked to finish 8th. Maybe we do finish 8th.

But we opened the season with a Kenpom ranking of 43rd. We are currently 17th. We had a massive jump this despite playing a portion of the season with multiple guys dealing with injury.
Fair or not, I highly doubt these selectors are digging into KenPom numbers and such. That’s giving them way too much credit imo.
 
You didn't have an issue with Painter, Hardaway, Kelsey, or Richard Pitino making the list ahead of Pope?

Seriously?

What's weird to me is that you never launched critique against Calipari while he was here, and now you do it all the time with Pope.

What's up with that?
How is saying Pope has done a good job but I don’t think he’s a top 10 COY criticizing him?

Weird
 
All these coaches ain’t dealing with free pizza, 10,000 free T-shirts, and everything else every time out either. Alabama, who is ranked above us in rankings and seed lines, is having a T-shirt night for us. You can’t make this shit up. That’s why Pope has done such a tremendous job.
 
I hate these awards... Because there is so much more to coaching than wins and losses.. Fact he built a team out of lower tier transfer guys... None of them except Robinson knew the system.. None had played together... And has done what he has done... It's stupid his not listed...
 
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