Coach K winning with OAD's= hurting UK recruiting?

[BurpinTurpin]

Some of you need to remember that we did, in fact, win the National Championship just a few short years ago. Did that Championship help our recruiting? Noel, Goodwin, Poythress, Cauley-Stein, and transfer Julius Mays- that was our next class.

I don't think Duke winning the title will help them much in recruiting, I think this whole storm of worry-warting is ridiculous.
Duke has recruited great for a long time, they will continue to do so, at least as long as K is there.

But we have perhaps the greatest recruiter in the history of college basketball; and as astounding as it might seem, that's not hyperbole. People need to chill out.

 

[VT/UK Rondo]

Duke has always landed talent. They will continue to do so. I fail to see how that affects Kentucky. Coach K is a good coach but hes been outcoached several times and with alot more talent at his disposal. Duke deserved to win the title because their players peaked at the right time and they played with a sense of urgency.

 

[REALTALK79]

I've seen tougher competition getting to a championship game in the Maui Invitational than Duke had getting to the final game this year. The NCAA treats them like they are the kid that brings the teacher an apple before a big test.And i'd like to Triple Dog Dare them to stick their tongue to a metal pole on a cold winter day.Piss on Puke......Rant Over.

 

[louisvilleblue]

I seriously think some of these kids are afraid Cal might revert back to his platoon system and they want to play more than 20-25 minutes a game. It worked this year, but kids are different. If Cal had announced to his last group of recruits that he was planning a platoon system no one knows if we would have landed all of them. Just don't know what these teenagers are thinking. Would AD and MKG have come to UK knowing they would maybe only get 25 minutes per game? I might be way off here but I feel like it could be at least a topic of discussion.

 

[Cawood86]

I do agree that dUKe couldn't have had an easier path to the title game. My concern was that no other coach in the country was doing what Cal was doing. The worst possible scenario was K doing it with freshman, because he was the only real threat to what Cal is doing.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Not necessarily his winning. It's his access to these players via USA basketball that's giving him the sudden recruiting resurgence.

 

[VT/UK Rondo]

Duke has on average about one 5star OAD player a year. The 2014 class was the exception with Okafor and Jones being a package deal out of HS and Winslow making them 3 OAD. From 2015 class they got Jeter who is a questionable OAD and Keanard who is likely not a OAD...from 2013 they had Jabari Parker...from 2012 they got Sulaimon(who didnt OAD)...from 2011 they got Rivers...etc. Coach K might recruit OAD players a little more now but I dont see how he is a threat to Cals OAD recruiting.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

I seriously think some of these kids are afraid Cal might revert back to his platoon system and they want to play more than 20-25 minutes a game. It worked this year, but kids are different. If Cal had announced to his last group of recruits that he was planning a platoon system no one knows if we would have landed all of them. Just don't know what these teenagers are thinking. Would AD and MKG have come to UK knowing they would maybe only get 25 minutes per game? I might be way off here but I feel like it could be at least a topic of discussion.

I think you might be right. So many of them are waiting, and it could be that they don't want to commit too early and be on a roster that is too loaded, thus almost forcing Cal to platoon. If that is the reason, at least we shouldn't get shut out.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Lol this is funny. So Coach k catches lighting in a bottle one year with three freshman and all th sudden he's the greatest? Let him do it a few more times then maybe! But everyone knows Duke was not by any stretch of the imagination the best team this year. They played 2 non mid majors that whole tourney and basically had that title handed to them

Lightning in a bottle? He's won 5 titles. This wasn't his first rodeo.

Like 2010, it's a shame the country didn't get the matchup they wanted: Duke v. Kentucky. Duke held up its end of the bargain...

 

[Mark Gastineau]

You don't have to be a Duke fan to realize they beat a team we couldn't,.

Actually twice.

 

[wcc31]

Actually twice.

Yeah, you got the team with whom you matched up with better. The NCAA Tourney gods smiled upon Duke once again.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

You don't have to be a Duke fan to realize they beat a team we couldn't, everything else is sour grapes. We lost, they are national champs.

K is a great coach.

Why we have so many fans that cannot give credit to others is just so petty.

There's a difference between "couldn't" and "didn't". We "could" beat them, but we "didn't".

 

[wcc31]

We also beat a team who knocked off Duke 2/3, including a 10-point loss a week before the tourney started.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Yeah, you got the team with whom you matched up with better. The NCAA Tourney gods smiled upon Duke once again.

How does your conspiracy affect the fact that Duke beat Wisconsin twice, a team that beat Kentucky? There is literally no way to spin that situation in Kentucky's favor.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

We also beat a team who knocked off Duke 2/3, including a 10-point loss a week before the tourney started.

Congratulations? Duke won when it mattered.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

I feel like Duke will never get credit for winning a title from the majority of UK fans, unless Duke actually beats UK in the tourney.

 

[caneintally]

alot of nonsense in this thread. Cal is the kind of coach who DOESN'T LOSE TO MERCER AND LEHIEGH OR WHATEVER THERE NAME IS . Nuff said. K is the best there ever was and the numbers prove that but like Self he has alot of straight dog crap years in the tourney . Cal has had like 1 in 10 years and i would take that any day. If you get to the final 4 enough times you win it once in a while . that's all i ask - to get there and be in the conversation.

 

[wcc31]

I feel like Duke will never get credit for winning a title from the majority of UK fans, unless Duke actually beats UK in the tourney.

I feel like you're d-bag coming in here as soon as your ban goes away thanks to the format change.

I also feel you're the typical bandwagon Dookie- most likely from up East who has no connection at all with Duke or its area.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

I also feel you're the typical bandwagon Dookie- most likely from up East who has no connection at all with Duke or its area.

My degree begs to differ. Class of 2006.

 

[wcc31]

Yeah, doubt that.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Yeah, doubt that.

Agree to disagree. Doesn't change my diploma.

 

[wcc31]

Duke was a Top 3 team this year, and without a doubt, deserves credit for their title. They also benefited from a fortunate bracket.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

Duke was a Top 3 team this year, and without a doubt, deserves credit for their title. They also benefited from a fortunate bracket.

That's a pretty passive aggressive way to give credit.

 

[65pacecar]

I really don't think Dukes success this year will have a significant Negative impact on UK and Cal recruiting, I think both programs will remain successful with their recruiting, same as if UK won the title instead. What is a bit sickening is the fact that Dukes last two titles have come in years that UK was the overall number 1 and picked to win it all and Duke got an easy path to the FF both years.

 

[Mark Gastineau]

What is a bit sickening is the fact that Dukes last two titles have come in years that UK was the overall number 1 and picked to win it all and Duke got an easy path to the FF both years.

And UK could have done something about that both times, but ....

 

[dezyDeco]

And UK could have done something about that both times, but ....

^^^NOT a foul, when you're Dook.

Hmmm... and what can UK do about the favoritism that Dook receives from the NCAA and the referees?

 

[wcc31]

That's a pretty passive aggressive way to give credit.

You come in here acting like a little bit and that's how I'll treat you.

 

[LineSkiCat]

Recruting also goes in swings. Just a few good years of recruits liking Duke. There have also been recent years where most of the top recruits pass. You're going to have the players that are enamored with Duke.. and then you will have guys like Jalen Rose who despise them..

 

[jman3715]

K has won 5 titles in 35 years. That's one every seven years on average. Cal won't be here that long but could meet or exceed that average easily.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Don't think Duke or Wisconsin was the better team but you have to give them credit for taking advantage of their moment. If tourney was played in November/December - we roll. Unfortunately for us its played in March. Although the streak was awesome - it probably contributed to our downfall. Regardless, I'll never forget this season.

 

[madskilz]

Won't hurt anymore than it already has. UK was all over Jabari Parker, Okafor and Kennard and they chose Duke before this latest championship. Some kids are in a Dookie state of mind. Many not.

Kennard grew up a Wildcat fan and Coach K somehow managed to turn him. Sure could have used him.

 

[bluedomino]

Not that Cal won't still do great in recruiting, but I do think it will hurt. Cal was the one winning titles and going to FF's, now K has done it.

dUKe winning a title this year was not what UK fans should have ever wanted to see regarding recruiting IMO.

I agree. Coach K lets them play and they look like they're having fun...and they win championships.

 

[kyups01]

Lightning in a bottle? He's won 5 titles. This wasn't his first rodeo.

Like 2010, it's a shame the country didn't get the matchup they wanted: Duke v. Kentucky. Duke held up its end of the bargain...

I was saying it's the first time he's won a title with "one and dones" and I stand by that statement.

 

[Pope John Wall II]

Sigh. So now we're calling Gonzaga a "mid major." And Utah is in the Pac 12 last time I checked. So that's three Power 5 schools plus Gonzaga.

Lines like that are so self-defeating. They just make us look ridiculous.

The Pac-12 is an absolute joke and you know it.

 

[toonces11]

I think it helps Duke more than it hurts UK. Cal and UK have had enough success with the formula that it won't matter. I think it might be tough to be a Kentucky fan after this year based on how crazy awesome recruiting has been. Even if you only sign one more, you still have a team loaded with 5 star players---not exactly a bare cupboard. Cal can coach without the hands down best roster---he has done it before.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

I agree. Coach K lets them play and they look like they're having fun...and they win championships.

Pretty sure the 2012 team had plenty of fun. And this nauseating fawning this board has been engaged in since we lost over K needs to stop. He's had his fair share of rough patches. Dude has been there 35 yrs. You don't think Cal would have at least a couple more titles if he was here 29 more years. Besides, I'm pretty sure they have a board where praising him would be much more welcome.