I posted the Jay white scenario a month ago and you didn’t think it was plausible- do you see it as more plausible now?
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Only if anyone can sign the contract. That has yet to be stated on TV as something that is possible.
If you could take two men and one woman in WWE and you put in AEW, who would you choose? And vice versa for AEW to WWE? You can include NXT and ROH talent to if you want since they are all part of the shared universe.
WWE to AEW
Montez Ford - they’ve completely fumbled him as a singles guy and the Street Profits are just kind of there
Dragon Lee - being completely wasted. He was told he would be lost in the shuffle in AEW, but that’s exactly what’s happened to him in WWE.
Thea Hail - She hasn’t been on tv in seven months and has only had four house show matches in that stretch. How do you not even use her on house shows?? She’s far too good and young to be wasted this significantly.
AEW to WWE
Hook - I’ve seen little to no improvement in him and AEW doesn’t want to seem to do anything to change him up. He’s you and has potential, I don’t see that potential ever being close to being reached in AEW at this point.
Wardlow - he’s got the look, maybe WWE can figure out what do with him. He’s terribly boring in AEW ever since he beat MJF. I think he’s terribly boring as a wrestler but there’s something there that maybe WWE can tap into
Britt Baker - WWE knows how to work with people who are good on the mic and bad in the ring better than anyone else. There’s still value there, but I don’t see it being able to be realized in AEW at this point.
WWE to AEW
Montez Ford - they’ve completely fumbled him as a singles guy and the Street Profits are just kind of there
Dragon Lee - being completely wasted. He was told he would be lost in the shuffle in AEW, but that’s exactly what’s happened to him in WWE.
Thea Hail - She hasn’t been on tv in seven months and has only had four house show matches in that stretch. How do you not even use her on house shows?? She’s far too good and young to be wasted this significantly.
AEW to WWE
Hook - I’ve seen little to no improvement in him and AEW doesn’t want to seem to do anything to change him up. He’s you and has potential, I don’t see that potential ever being close to being reached in AEW at this point.
Wardlow - he’s got the look, maybe WWE can figure out what do with him. He’s terribly boring in AEW ever since he beat MJF. I think he’s terribly boring as a wrestler but there’s something there that maybe WWE can tap into
Britt Baker - WWE knows how to work with people who are good on the mic and bad in the ring better than anyone else. There’s still value there, but I don’t see it being able to be realized in AEW at this point.
I'm going nuts with Dragon's question.
WWE to AEW:
1) Gable - believable as AEW champion. He'll never see that kind of glory in WWE and that sucks.
2) Rollins - how much more can he do in WWE? In AEW, he could be a more stripped down, serious version of himself and not this loud, dressing like he's at a warehouse rave in 1993 version.
3) Lynch - similar to her husband, how much more can she do in WWE? They have a family, would both get even more money, and have a lighter schedule. Both can put in another few years, retire, then go into the WWE HOF together five years later.
AEW to WWE:
1) MJF - He alone would be a better get than Gable and Rollins combined and he's not retiring in AEW. If I had the power, I'd pull the trigger now instead of waiting a few more years. He's not going to become any more popular staying where he's at.
2) Swerve - has a great look, is now established, and would thrive with the WWE machine behind him.
3) Willow - with NXT, WWE doesn't "need" a woman from AEW. However, Willow is a natural face, has size, and a connection to the crowd. The connection Bayley had in NXT is the type of connection Willow could have in WWE. Unless you're a hardcore fan, you have no idea who Willow even is right now. That instantly changes in WWE.
WWE to AEW:
1) Gable - believable as AEW champion. He'll never see that kind of glory in WWE and that sucks.
2) Rollins - how much more can he do in WWE? In AEW, he could be a more stripped down, serious version of himself and not this loud, dressing like he's at a warehouse rave in 1993 version.
3) Lynch - similar to her husband, how much more can she do in WWE? They have a family, would both get even more money, and have a lighter schedule. Both can put in another few years, retire, then go into the WWE HOF together five years later.
AEW to WWE:
1) MJF - He alone would be a better get than Gable and Rollins combined and he's not retiring in AEW. If I had the power, I'd pull the trigger now instead of waiting a few more years. He's not going to become any more popular staying where he's at.
2) Swerve - has a great look, is now established, and would thrive with the WWE machine behind him.
3) Willow - with NXT, WWE doesn't "need" a woman from AEW. However, Willow is a natural face, has size, and a connection to the crowd. The connection Bayley had in NXT is the type of connection Willow could have in WWE. Unless you're a hardcore fan, you have no idea who Willow even is right now. That instantly changes in WWE.
This shows my age but I’d love AJ, Nakamura, and Finn from WWE to AEW to finish up. Don’t really care about the women’s side.
Britt Baker is made for WWE, IMHO. Part of me thinks MJF would kill it in WWE and another part makes me think they might turn him into the Miz 2.0.
Britt Baker is made for WWE, IMHO. Part of me thinks MJF would kill it in WWE and another part makes me think they might turn him into the Miz 2.0.
Maybe it’s been left ambiguous by design?
I really enjoyed Nick Aldis simple explanation of the tag team division last night
Even though Kamille was immediately booked like shit, I'm assuming she disappeared off tv because of that movie.
I'm not speaking for all fans, but I think most have a hard time keeping up with/investing in such a large roster that seems chaotic at times. Just on the women's side, is Kamille returning? Where's Baker? Why doesn't Marina Shafir have matches? Anna Jay was in Japan for several months. Did AEW mention that? Riho shows up a few times a year with no rhyme or reason. Mercedes has four titles and fans have no emotional attachment to any of them. Saraya is AEW's Natalya, only one is 32 and the other 42. Thunder Rosa was just made a fool of and a week later took the pin.
^ That's exhausting to keep up with when you're a casual fan into other sports and you know, have hobbies, friends, and families.
I'm not speaking for all fans, but I think most have a hard time keeping up with/investing in such a large roster that seems chaotic at times. Just on the women's side, is Kamille returning? Where's Baker? Why doesn't Marina Shafir have matches? Anna Jay was in Japan for several months. Did AEW mention that? Riho shows up a few times a year with no rhyme or reason. Mercedes has four titles and fans have no emotional attachment to any of them. Saraya is AEW's Natalya, only one is 32 and the other 42. Thunder Rosa was just made a fool of and a week later took the pin.
^ That's exhausting to keep up with when you're a casual fan into other sports and you know, have hobbies, friends, and families.
Kamille sucks. She's already been replaced by an upgrade in Megan Bayne.
Baker, who knows.
We've seen Marina Shafir have matches in AEW before. Hard pass on ever seeing another one.
Anna Jay being in Japan was something they mentioned and they even showed some clips of her over there.
Riho got hurt last time she was briefly on AEW TV.
We've already seen more than enough of Saraya. I don't care if we never see her again.
Thunder Rosa is washed.
Hopefully it's someone they don't care if they get injured.
Lex Luger almost ran me over in his wheelchair earlier. I wasn’t paying attention 
Where did you see him yet?Lex Luger almost ran me over in his wheelchair earlier. I wasn’t paying attention
Anyone think Kamille returns tonight now that the film has been released.
I have no idea who’d they throw Sasha to next other than Willow maybe?
I have no idea who’d they throw Sasha to next other than Willow maybe?
He’s at Lexington comic con. My friend and I were talking to Ron Simmons and stepped aside to make a game plan, then I heard ‘COMING THROUGH!!!’ And lex rolled right about an inch from me
Btw he was totally cool and it was rather funny. He didn’t get mad or anything. Ron Simmons was cool as can be too.
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Should be a good show tonight, unless the Death Riders are getting a new person don't think Moxley will be champ. But I don't think it will be Cope either.
Hurt Syndicate
Toni Storm
Omega
MJF
Ospreay
Mone
Okada
Swerve
That's all of the main show matches I believe.
Hurt Syndicate
Toni Storm
Omega
MJF
Ospreay
Mone
Okada
Swerve
That's all of the main show matches I believe.
There’s also Billie Starkz if you were paying any attention at all.
In addition to the previously mentioned, there’s also the below who have yet to get a TBS title shot against Mone
- Megan Bayne
- Penelope Ford
- Deonna Purrazzo
- Jamie Hayter
- Julia Hart
- Mariah May
- Red Velvet
- Riho
- Saraya
- Serena Deeb
- Tay Melo
- Thunder Rosa
- Ruby Soho
I meant credible - half those wouldn’t even get a match with her (purazzo etc.)
Bayne would be more likely to get a shot at storm/may I mean you don’t build her up like that for a tbs title shot
Julia hart should be out to get the tbs title back but she might also be eyeing storm/may
Wow, Wade Keller of PW Torch is saying Nakamura is effectively done with WWE. They are either going to stash him in catering until his contract expires or release him. Says the LA Knight vs. Shinsuke match was supposed to be at WrestleMania but got moved to Smackdown due to lack of interest.
Someone said his us title run was the worst ever - if the above is true just let him go elsewhere.
That looks like those bad mortal kombat ps2 games with better graphics
Tony is going to make his sickos suffer with Moxley as champion until summer, isn't he?
"We don't pivot, PAL! I'm seeing this captivating story thru, PAL!"
Meh, trust me, you don't want Copeland, Christian, or White (as he's currently been booked) world champion in 2025. Give it to Swerve next and actually make him the most important part of the show afterward. Then have Page take it off him.
"We don't pivot, PAL! I'm seeing this captivating story thru, PAL!"
Meh, trust me, you don't want Copeland, Christian, or White (as he's currently been booked) world champion in 2025. Give it to Swerve next and actually make him the most important part of the show afterward. Then have Page take it off him.
This review seems fairly accurate…
I was sick today and wasn't feeling up to it. Of the four matches I was hyped for, I decided the one I would go out of my way for was Mox vs Cope for the world title. I've been hyped for them to go at it since Cope returned, as he is my second favorite wrestler and Mox is Mox.
F*** me for making that decision.
For starters, the crowd. I dunno I've been to livlier funerals. A spear off the apron and a stomp on the concrete earned golf claps, there was maybe one or two chants during the match, and the pops were tiny. I get it was a smaller crowd for a ppv, but it was also LA, which isn't exactly a quiet town.
The match itself moved at a snails pace that can be best described as "slow”.I understand what they were trying to do, but the pacing of this match makes peak "Blandy Borton" (he's so good I hate this was even a thing) look like Will Ospreay. The first five or so minutes was a strike fest, which can work when the crowd is into it. Watching two guys punch each other in the face in a room so quiet you can hear the impacts just ain't it. Cope quite frankly looked like sh** compared to just a year ago when he was TNT champ, and Mox was wrestling like a parody of himself. Deliberately slow, deliberately no selling everything, deliberately methodical.
And then there's the finish. Holy s***. I dunno who Christian pissed off, but they f***ing buried him tonight. And I know that phrase gets overused, but I don't know what else to call it. He cashes in the contract he's held for six months, and then gets dominated by Mox in about four minutes. Like, are you shi**ng me? All that build, all that hype, the fact that Mox didn't have his group, didn't even need to be pinned, and you f**king jobbed Christian out?
Where does this even lead? Cope looks like a broken old man, Mox looks the exact same as he normally does, and Christian looks like a joke. Of course the one guy to come out on top at the end was Will Washington's nepopushed cousin. He probably beats Mox too doesn't he? Ya know, f*** it I don't care if he does, anything to end this abysmal reign.
I was sick today and wasn't feeling up to it. Of the four matches I was hyped for, I decided the one I would go out of my way for was Mox vs Cope for the world title. I've been hyped for them to go at it since Cope returned, as he is my second favorite wrestler and Mox is Mox.
F*** me for making that decision.
For starters, the crowd. I dunno I've been to livlier funerals. A spear off the apron and a stomp on the concrete earned golf claps, there was maybe one or two chants during the match, and the pops were tiny. I get it was a smaller crowd for a ppv, but it was also LA, which isn't exactly a quiet town.
The match itself moved at a snails pace that can be best described as "slow”.I understand what they were trying to do, but the pacing of this match makes peak "Blandy Borton" (he's so good I hate this was even a thing) look like Will Ospreay. The first five or so minutes was a strike fest, which can work when the crowd is into it. Watching two guys punch each other in the face in a room so quiet you can hear the impacts just ain't it. Cope quite frankly looked like sh** compared to just a year ago when he was TNT champ, and Mox was wrestling like a parody of himself. Deliberately slow, deliberately no selling everything, deliberately methodical.
And then there's the finish. Holy s***. I dunno who Christian pissed off, but they f***ing buried him tonight. And I know that phrase gets overused, but I don't know what else to call it. He cashes in the contract he's held for six months, and then gets dominated by Mox in about four minutes. Like, are you shi**ng me? All that build, all that hype, the fact that Mox didn't have his group, didn't even need to be pinned, and you f**king jobbed Christian out?
Where does this even lead? Cope looks like a broken old man, Mox looks the exact same as he normally does, and Christian looks like a joke. Of course the one guy to come out on top at the end was Will Washington's nepopushed cousin. He probably beats Mox too doesn't he? Ya know, f*** it I don't care if he does, anything to end this abysmal reign.
A prime Edge couldn't make Ambrose look good so I surely don't think I would expect anything from a 50 year old version. I am a big fan of him and think he is one of the all time greats but even when he first came back, as cool as it was, the work was nothing compared to what we are used to. Father time doesnt play favorites.
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