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CI Wrestling Thread #56

It must be some sort of rite of passage to slam wwe once you’ve been released but when it’s convenient they always come back.

Drew came back!
Lashley came back!
Cody came back!
Punk came back!
Naomi came back!

Mickie James came back and her husband came over when no one said he ever would!
 
Ya I’m surprised they don’t save drew/seth for SNME -the cfb game will probably draw a monster rating.
Looks like Drew is becoming the new Sami or Miz whose job is to take a pin and make other guys look great.

Pretty clear he’s not in the plans for either of the big belts in WWE. It’s a shame as the guy looks more legit than about anyone else while also having the skills and charisma to carry one of those belts.
 
It must be some sort of rite of passage to slam wwe once you’ve been released but when it’s convenient they always come back.

Drew came back!
Lashley came back!
Cody came back!
Punk came back!
Naomi came back!

Mickie James came back and her husband came over when no one said he ever would!
Lashley left again!
MVP left again!
 
I'm sure there are unhappy folks in WWE. The difference is with the exception of Graves and of course Punk back in the day you never hear any talk about it. The minute someone may be unhappy in AEW it gets out almost immediately.

Was a big fan of the DMD when she first started. But as others have said she seems to have gotten worse. I know Mercedes gets a lot of hate but her matches are almost always really good. The exception of course was All In against DMD.
 
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No, it was goofy before that. You forget all the stupid video packages and kangaroo kick shit that led to All In?
Yea. Shit was fire. I'll never forget Cole fake lifting heavy ass weight at the gym or the launch of the video game where MJF cries about not having any friends. Or MJF at the bar trying to get Cole to cheat on Brit. Funny shit.
 
I watched last night the very first PPV event WWF put in in England back in 1989 headlined by Hogan vs Macho.

There was chin locks and other rest holds and ya know what… I didn’t mind it. Matter of fact, kinda missed it.

I get it that now that there’s no curtain to pull over peoples’ eyes ya ain’t gonna act like you’re tryin to choke a dude out for 2 minutes or whatever, but it made it seem more real than somebody doin 10 flips in a match and high spots just for the hell of doin em.

I prefer more psychology and less spots just for the sake of havin somethin to do.
 
The purpose of pro wrestling is to entertain. And that was entertaining.
Yup and why aew is struggling is in 2025 these things are not entertaining at all…

Mox incoherent rambling promos

Christopher Daniels wrestling

Jericho and his insistence on being relevant on AEW tv

Jeff Jarrett and his “retirement tour”
 
I watched last night the very first PPV event WWF put in in England back in 1989 headlined by Hogan vs Macho.

There was chin locks and other rest holds and ya know what… I didn’t mind it. Matter of fact, kinda missed it.

I get it that now that there’s no curtain to pull over peoples’ eyes ya ain’t gonna act like you’re tryin to choke a dude out for 2 minutes or whatever, but it made it seem more real than somebody doin 10 flips in a match and high spots just for the hell of doin em.

I prefer more psychology and less spots just for the sake of havin somethin to do.
Did Macho and Hulk hit their finisher 5 times and have 15 near falls?
 
RE: The HHH is racist thing

Lashley is almost 50, looks great, has the speaking voice of a middle school boy and has always been missing the charisma/verbal abilities of a true WWE top guy.

MVP was a career midcarder who is good on the mic and always meh in the ring. I didn’t want to see MVP wrestle in 2015, much less 2025.

Shelton Benjamin is almost 50 and is what he’s always been - great worker, elite athleticism, charisma of a cardboard cutout

Ricochet: Great high flyer, can do a lot of cool moves, whiny bitch speaking voice no matter heel or babyface, upper midcard is his ceiling in a large promotion. Nobody believes the 5’8, 170-pounder is going to carry a wrestling company.

None of the four are a huge loss and absolutely zero of it is because of their skin color. It’s not like Lashley and Benjamin are 28 years old or Ricochet is out here cutting Austin promos.

But, I guess if booking wrestling is about checking racial boxes, might as well put the big belt on Kofi, give Woods the IC and put tag belts on Street Profits. Maybe Naomi can take one of the women’s midcard belts.

I’m pretty left leaning in general, but this whole manufactured outrage from the AEW camp of “HHH is racist because he doesn’t book enough midcard black guys in top spots” is why many laugh at the left.
 
Have we all forgotten about that period from AEW's beginnings in 2019 until ~February 2022 when WWE programming bordered on unwatchable, WWE's mass releases of talent during COVID were seen as deplorable, and WWE wrestlers were flowing in only one direction, from WWE to AEW? AEW had strong momentum and WWE was flailing. AEW could keep secrets within (Brody's illness, Malakai's surprise early debut) And WWE was full of leaks. Remember the All Out where Punk had his first match after debuting on the First Dance episode of Rampage, and both Adam Cole and Bryan Danielson debuted? Remember Grand Slam when Danielson and Omega faced each other for the first time? AEW was extremely over.
The first that the tide began to turn was when Cody left. An EVP of AEW jumping ship? That really felt wrong somehow. Then we hear that the locker room is very tense, but everyone is tight-lipped. Then CM Punk drops his Gripe Bomb after All Out. And from there it just starts to degrade, the post-All-In scrum fight, the Andrade/Guevara fracas, you start hearing some guys want to leave, the split roster for Collision, the CM Punk/Perry confrontation, CM Punk's firing.
And during all this time, WWE finally starts to gather interest with the Bloodline storyline, Cody returns from his injury to build into the biggest babyface the industry has seen since Hogan, and then hell freezes over with the return of CM Punk at SS in November 2023.
The pendulum swung, and AEW and WWE traded places. Just like it felt in mid-2021 that AEW could do no wrong and WWE could do no right, it feels today that WWE can do no wrong and AEW can do no right.
Will the pendulum eventually swing back again? Stay tuned.
 
The MJF/Cole thing was great until it wasn't. Going for the ROH tag titles was dumb as was him doing double duty once Cole got injured. Kangaroo hopping was cringy and something a top guy in his prime shouldn't be doing. The video packages were good until the dodgeball one where MJF pelted kids in their faces, leading them to comedically fall over dead with their tongues out like cartoons. That's bad Jericho comedy. And now we've got Maxwell Dice Clay Friedman over here basically calling Karen Jarrett a whore so I don't know what's going on.
 
Obviously it's personal taste but I thought the dodgeball one was hilarious. Thought the alligator one was stupid.

Vince getting ousted from power was the worst thing that could have happened to AEW. Even with some of their bad stuff, other than the Bloodline it was still better than what WWE was doing.

Hey let's change topics and get this out there early. Who wants to be in the annual Royal Rumble draw? Ideally we'd have 15 people and everyone gets two entries.
 
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Obviously it's personal taste but I thought the dodgeball one was hilarious. Thought the alligator one was stupid.

Vince getting ousted from power was the worst thing that could have happened to AEW. Even with some of their bad stuff, other than the Bloodline it was still better than what WWE was doing.

Hey let's change topics and get this out there early. Who wants to be in the annual Royal Rumble draw? Ideally we'd have 15 people and everyone gets two entries.
Ya sign me up
 
I want to enter my name in the Royal Rumble. Then I'm going to win and then headline Wrestlemania, where I'll become the World Champion.
 
Obviously it's personal taste but I thought the dodgeball one was hilarious. Thought the alligator one was stupid.

Vince getting ousted from power was the worst thing that could have happened to AEW. Even with some of their bad stuff, other than the Bloodline it was still better than what WWE was doing.

Hey let's change topics and get this out there early. Who wants to be in the annual Royal Rumble draw? Ideally we'd have 15 people and everyone gets two entries.
Me
 
Yep, I'm in.

Women's Rumble has barely been built up, whereas the men's is as stacked as it's ever been. Hopefully the leaked sheet from a few weeks ago isn't the real deal. Most can probably pick the correct final four though.
 
Yep, I'm in.

Women's Rumble has barely been built up, whereas the men's is as stacked as it's ever been. Hopefully the leaked sheet from a few weeks ago isn't the real deal. Most can probably pick the correct final four though.
Women’s rumble wasn’t really built up much last year either - I think charlotte wins it regardless.

Men’s rumble is pretty stacked for sure - last year Cody was the obvious winner but this year I think there’s 2-3 legit winners.
 
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Women’s rumble wasn’t really built up much last year either - I think charlotte wins it regardless.

Men’s rumble is pretty stacked for sure - last year Cody was the obvious winner but this year I think there’s 2-3 legit winners.
Charlotte is the safe pick which is why it probably happens. There's opportunities in the Chamber and also if they do King of the Ring again so I'm hoping her and Cena aren't the Rumble winners. That feels very Vince. Right now I think Drew takes out Reigns, Sami takes out Drew. Final four is Cena, Rollins, Punk, and ?. Can see Sami, Jey, and Fatu all there.
 
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