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Can't Seem to Win For Losing--the New Crappy Logo

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I just posted my thoughts in KSR's comments so here they are on the new re-design of the UK interlocking logo...FWIW...the Billy Gillispie equivalent of logo design, and yes, this should go as fast as he did.

The new UK logo is cartoonish and unprofessional, and I despise how it looks and hate how we in almost near secrecy changed it without fan input . You do NOT make a “K” by writing it in the manner of this new logo. This looks like it was done by a five-year old. Nike’s full block “K” design in its apparel graphics was very well designed and done but had to be thinned in one part (top diagonal line) due to the difficulty in sizing it to fit its allotted space. A full block “K” of any type is difficult to do and to make look good along with the other letters it accompanies. I point this out because our 1997 UK interlock is part of that difficulty seen from the nature of the letter “K” yet was still designed well enough to be professional and distinctive. Now, apparently someone thought it would be proper to give it an overhaul. What we have now–at the center of our new football field by the way–is this goofy looking thing that does not invoke pride or do what a logo is supposed to do. And why change? We had a New York Yankees-style timeless logo that could have stood the test of time (like theirs, and it will never change), but we really goofed that up royally. Shame on whomever is responsible for that. And did the fans get a vote? The answer is no–I’m surprised and frankly very disappointed that UK chose this and also did not give the fans a chance to give feedback. The original interlocking UK did NOT need changing–what we needed was a distinctive new design for a wildcat logo and associated other logos/graphics similar to the ones associated with EKU. I do realize that many, yourselves on the radio show included, do not see much of a difference and in so doing could care less about it. However, there is no question in business or in sports that logos are vital to a team’s following and success. A logo is supposed to inject spirit and pride in one’s feeling about his or her team. Mitch Barnhart should re-think this very awful design–truly one of the worst designs in all of sports. Finally, design a new wildcat, and by all means keep the original, distinctive interlocking UK…no need to change for either the Yankees or the Kentucky Wildcats.

To many of you, like Matt and Ryan discussing this yesterday morning on their show, graphic design may be a challenge. So, not much of the above, or really any of the discussion of this matter, will ultimately make much sense. But, to those of us who are artistically inclined and involved, and who DO care about things like logo design, it means a lot. Logos are very important. They exist for significant reasons. Big money is spent each day in this graphic design business. Evidence of this can be seen in sports, especially true of smaller colleges and schools who previously had relied upon branding and images for their schools that were second rate in design. Now, we're in a different era. Have you noticed how even small schools have great designs for logos, many of them newly designed and updated in the last several years. Even they are spending big bucks to ensure branding of their name is put into the "brightest of lights."

As a Big Blue fan from birth and a 1978 graduate of UK, I place a high amount of importance on how we are portrayed nationally and attach a lot of pride to our logos and traditions of the past and present. This new design is embarrassing to me. Bear in mind that this again is no small matter. Alumni and fans should be able to provide feedback on this kind of issue--UK is dead wrong for not soliciting our thoughts. I can only hope that others will let their voice be heard and this can properly be shelved inn favor of the original interlocking UK or another update to the logo. I am in favor of the logo package I referenced earlier--that belonging to EKU. Their "Colonel" design and accompanying package of branding designs is something UK should strongly consider doing, i.e., wildcat design by itself, UK by itself, UK with wildcat, etc.

There now. It's off my chest.
 
Dude, they just made the "K" look a little different. Calm yourself. How is it cartoonish anyway? It's not like it's a wildcat wearing a toga and holding a lightning bolt. It's just something basic. You might be the most over-dramatic poster here now. Yeesh.
 
I just posted my thoughts in KSR's comments so here they are on the new re-design of the UK interlocking logo...FWIW...the Billy Gillispie equivalent of logo design, and yes, this should go as fast as he did.

The new UK logo is cartoonish and unprofessional, and I despise how it looks and hate how we in almost near secrecy changed it without fan input . You do NOT make a “K” by writing it in the manner of this new logo. This looks like it was done by a five-year old. Nike’s full block “K” design in its apparel graphics was very well designed and done but had to be thinned in one part (top diagonal line) due to the difficulty in sizing it to fit its allotted space. A full block “K” of any type is difficult to do and to make look good along with the other letters it accompanies. I point this out because our 1997 UK interlock is part of that difficulty seen from the nature of the letter “K” yet was still designed well enough to be professional and distinctive. Now, apparently someone thought it would be proper to give it an overhaul. What we have now–at the center of our new football field by the way–is this goofy looking thing that does not invoke pride or do what a logo is supposed to do. And why change? We had a New York Yankees-style timeless logo that could have stood the test of time (like theirs, and it will never change), but we really goofed that up royally. Shame on whomever is responsible for that. And did the fans get a vote? The answer is no–I’m surprised and frankly very disappointed that UK chose this and also did not give the fans a chance to give feedback. The original interlocking UK did NOT need changing–what we needed was a distinctive new design for a wildcat logo and associated other logos/graphics similar to the ones associated with EKU. I do realize that many, yourselves on the radio show included, do not see much of a difference and in so doing could care less about it. However, there is no question in business or in sports that logos are vital to a team’s following and success. A logo is supposed to inject spirit and pride in one’s feeling about his or her team. Mitch Barnhart should re-think this very awful design–truly one of the worst designs in all of sports. Finally, design a new wildcat, and by all means keep the original, distinctive interlocking UK…no need to change for either the Yankees or the Kentucky Wildcats.

To many of you, like Matt and Ryan discussing this yesterday morning on their show, graphic design may be a challenge. So, not much of the above, or really any of the discussion of this matter, will ultimately make much sense. But, to those of us who are artistically inclined and involved, and who DO care about things like logo design, it means a lot. Logos are very important. They exist for significant reasons. Big money is spent each day in this graphic design business. Evidence of this can be seen in sports, especially true of smaller colleges and schools who previously had relied upon branding and images for their schools that were second rate in design. Now, we're in a different era. Have you noticed how even small schools have great designs for logos, many of them newly designed and updated in the last several years. Even they are spending big bucks to ensure branding of their name is put into the "brightest of lights."

As a Big Blue fan from birth and a 1978 graduate of UK, I place a high amount of importance on how we are portrayed nationally and attach a lot of pride to our logos and traditions of the past and present. This new design is embarrassing to me. Bear in mind that this again is no small matter. Alumni and fans should be able to provide feedback on this kind of issue--UK is dead wrong for not soliciting our thoughts. I can only hope that others will let their voice be heard and this can properly be shelved inn favor of the original interlocking UK or another update to the logo. I am in favor of the logo package I referenced earlier--that belonging to EKU. Their "Colonel" design and accompanying package of branding designs is something UK should strongly consider doing, i.e., wildcat design by itself, UK by itself, UK with wildcat, etc.

There now. It's off my chest.


As to low level schools even getting some pretty great logos and understanding the importance of logos:

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That's for a HS golf team. And it's badass. And it was designed by a guy from Lexington... And somehow UK ended up with a colorway of UH.
 
I just posted my thoughts in KSR's comments so here they are on the new re-design of the UK interlocking logo...FWIW...the Billy Gillispie equivalent of logo design, and yes, this should go as fast as he did.

The new UK logo is cartoonish and unprofessional, and I despise how it looks and hate how we in almost near secrecy changed it without fan input . You do NOT make a “K” by writing it in the manner of this new logo. This looks like it was done by a five-year old. Nike’s full block “K” design in its apparel graphics was very well designed and done but had to be thinned in one part (top diagonal line) due to the difficulty in sizing it to fit its allotted space. A full block “K” of any type is difficult to do and to make look good along with the other letters it accompanies. I point this out because our 1997 UK interlock is part of that difficulty seen from the nature of the letter “K” yet was still designed well enough to be professional and distinctive. Now, apparently someone thought it would be proper to give it an overhaul. What we have now–at the center of our new football field by the way–is this goofy looking thing that does not invoke pride or do what a logo is supposed to do. And why change? We had a New York Yankees-style timeless logo that could have stood the test of time (like theirs, and it will never change), but we really goofed that up royally. Shame on whomever is responsible for that. And did the fans get a vote? The answer is no–I’m surprised and frankly very disappointed that UK chose this and also did not give the fans a chance to give feedback. The original interlocking UK did NOT need changing–what we needed was a distinctive new design for a wildcat logo and associated other logos/graphics similar to the ones associated with EKU. I do realize that many, yourselves on the radio show included, do not see much of a difference and in so doing could care less about it. However, there is no question in business or in sports that logos are vital to a team’s following and success. A logo is supposed to inject spirit and pride in one’s feeling about his or her team. Mitch Barnhart should re-think this very awful design–truly one of the worst designs in all of sports. Finally, design a new wildcat, and by all means keep the original, distinctive interlocking UK…no need to change for either the Yankees or the Kentucky Wildcats.

To many of you, like Matt and Ryan discussing this yesterday morning on their show, graphic design may be a challenge. So, not much of the above, or really any of the discussion of this matter, will ultimately make much sense. But, to those of us who are artistically inclined and involved, and who DO care about things like logo design, it means a lot. Logos are very important. They exist for significant reasons. Big money is spent each day in this graphic design business. Evidence of this can be seen in sports, especially true of smaller colleges and schools who previously had relied upon branding and images for their schools that were second rate in design. Now, we're in a different era. Have you noticed how even small schools have great designs for logos, many of them newly designed and updated in the last several years. Even they are spending big bucks to ensure branding of their name is put into the "brightest of lights."

As a Big Blue fan from birth and a 1978 graduate of UK, I place a high amount of importance on how we are portrayed nationally and attach a lot of pride to our logos and traditions of the past and present. This new design is embarrassing to me. Bear in mind that this again is no small matter. Alumni and fans should be able to provide feedback on this kind of issue--UK is dead wrong for not soliciting our thoughts. I can only hope that others will let their voice be heard and this can properly be shelved inn favor of the original interlocking UK or another update to the logo. I am in favor of the logo package I referenced earlier--that belonging to EKU. Their "Colonel" design and accompanying package of branding designs is something UK should strongly consider doing, i.e., wildcat design by itself, UK by itself, UK with wildcat, etc.

There now. It's off my chest.
I fully agree and have expressed my disdain for this logo as well. Your comparison to the New York Yankees is spot. I wear the old logo a lot and people almost always immediately know it is the University of Kentucky. It was proportionately done well and very distinctive. Now the logo looks like the sewing machine broke down with putting the letters together. To those who say calm down - I say stand up for UK!

Maybe some large donors or others with impact can do something about this? What do you say Kip Cornett? You have had lots of input with UK advertising campaigns - I know you didn't come up with piece for crap! I still believe this is a Nike deal - change the logo and try to sell a lot of new merchandise with it - well I'm not buying it!

Go Big Blue!
 
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The thing is no one writes a K like that. It looks more like an X than an H, let alone a K.

A new design, and that's what we're given? The absence of creativity in this endeavor matches the Mennen after shave tv jingle. It's like they weren't even trying.
 
Good Gawd...I bet some of you are just a blast to live with...NOT!!!

The anal retentive nature of some people is beyond mind boggling.
 
It's simple. Don't buy any merchandise with the new logo. Just rock your other older style Cat gear and Nike will get the point. Money talks. I hate it also, but I'll just wear my older UK gear.
 
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I knew an old man that told me that there is an equal relationship between the quality of a persons life and the pettiness of their complaints. After reading these threads about logos I can tell that some of our fans are living an absolutely great life.
 
Good Gawd...I bet some of you are just a blast to live with...NOT!!!

The anal retentive nature of some people is beyond mind boggling.

Wrong answer. Typeface is an art of communicating. Watch the documentary on Helvetica...I kid you not. This logo is a hot dog fart into the mouths of Kentucky fans.

If it's so subtle, why change it in the first place?
 
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Dude, they just made the "K" look a little different. Calm yourself. How is it cartoonish anyway? It's not like it's a wildcat wearing a toga and holding a lightning bolt. It's just something basic. You might be the most over-dramatic poster here now. Yeesh.

The new logo is terrible. It looks awful because thet placed the u over the k making university the focal point instead of the k in kentucky.....not to mention it has a funky kink in the k.
 
Agree the logo is not very good, but then again, as a long-time fan I didn't think the interlocking u/k was all that great. Not much creativity in anything uk does to market. Reminds me of a guy that wore only black ties to work. His wife told him to be more creative, so he wore a gray tie.

On the other hand, I don't care if they put a big X in the middle of the field if it helps them win.
 
Wrong answer. Typeface is an art of communicating. Watch the documentary on Helvetica...I kid you not. This logo is a hot dog fart into the mouths of Kentucky fans.

If it's so subtle, why change it in the first place?
 
This is going to sound mean, and maybe it is, but get a life. Seriously. Anyone who gets on a message board and writes something that long about a freaking logo really needs to find something else to get concerned about.
 
If you really want to try to get something changed, go here > http://bbnfirst.ukathletics.com/

I've used this and have received a response, now, whether anything is done about it is a toss up, but this can go further up the chain than a post on rival's forums.
 
This is going to sound mean, and maybe it is, but get a life. Seriously. Anyone who gets on a message board and writes something that long about a freaking logo really needs to find something else to get concerned about.

This is going to sound mean, and maybe it is, but get a life. Seriously. Anyone who gets on a message board and writes two sentences about a freaking logo complaint really needs to find something else to get concerned about.

See what I did there.
 
Boycott the new POS logo. It really is that simple.
Here is what is so stupid ...IT ISN'T a NEW logo...the damn thing was introduced nearly a year ago when it was introduced at Memorial Coliseum. ...and you're bitching about it now???? Some of y'all really need to get a life. .
 
Is it being used with anything associated with men's basketball?

It is supposed to be...there will be a real stink when that thing hits the Rupp floor...right now it doesn't seem like a big deal to "certain fans" because they have only seen it for the womens bball court and CWS.
 
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It is supposed to be...there will be a real stink when that thing hits the Rupp floor...right now it doesn't seem like a big deal to "certain fans" because they have only seen it for the womens bball court and CWS.

No, it isn't a big deal to certain fans because it's not a big deal, period. Some of you are just ridiculously overdramatic.
 
Here is what is so stupid ...IT ISN'T a NEW logo...the damn thing was introduced nearly a year ago when it was introduced at Memorial Coliseum. ...and you're bitching about it now???? Some of y'all really need to get a life. .

The logo was introduced about 4 months ago...not a year. The only sports that may have played on a surface using this logo do not have a ton of viewers and the logo isn't on apparel yet...so this logo will be VERY new to the many fans who do not use twitter/media to follow the Cats when the major sports aren't in season.
 
No, it isn't a big deal to certain fans because it's not a big deal, period. Some of you are just ridiculously overdramatic.

No, it is a terrible looking logo. K's do not look like that. I can still be a huge fan of the team without liking the logo.

Also, many fans that lean basketball only are thinking that this logo may be football centric and that's not the case...they may be surprised.

This is kind of a big deal to me considering this is our main logo for all sports...pre-game graphics, sports apparel, recruiting letters etc...so yeah, I think its a poor decision to bow to Nike on this logo - instead of fighting back on the design. I am perfectly fine for a change, but to me, if it isn't an upgrade then there was no use in changing it to begin with.
 
No, it isn't a big deal to certain fans because it's not a big deal, period. Some of you are just ridiculously overdramatic.
Wait and see...

It's note even being used on the "official" UK Athletics website, which was just totally re-done about two weeks ago.
 
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It essentially said they were keeping up with the times. We are UK, the times can keep up with us, much like the Yankees analogy. Get a solid logo and stick with it. There was no need for a change.
 
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The change is subtle, yet the complaining is growing off the charts. Where is the correlation?
 
I admit to being dense, but that really doesn't explain anything to me. Most telling, there are no plans to change the logo at Rupp Arena (I know, I know, UK doesn't own Rupp...) The whole thing seems half-assed, not well thought through, and just odd...
Exactly...you will have the football team running around in unis with the old logo and the new logo on the field this year...at Rupp in 2016, you will have the players uniforms with the new logo, but possibly the old logo on the court...

Like you said earlier, they don't highlight or use the new logo online and they never did an official graphic release...

And I would disagree that the change is subtle...if you change the shape of a letter in the alphabet, its a big change
 
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I will be surprised if that happens.
you could be right...Basketball did use a more vertical logo in the 90s when football had the wider version

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Would be pretty crappy for football to get stuck with this experimental crap.
 
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Here is what is so stupid ...IT ISN'T a NEW logo...the damn thing was introduced nearly a year ago when it was introduced at Memorial Coliseum. ...and you're bitching about it now???? Some of y'all really need to get a life. .

Thank you for that, fuzz. You usually post stuff that I enjoy to read. The issue is this: there is indeed a new logo. Minute changes don't seem like much to some people, but to others, it's an enormous issue. It's not up to anyone to decide what is or isn't too miniscule for someone to spend their time on. The old logo drew ire on here as well, and I remember a huge thread on the year old revision when it first came out. The logo does not look pleasing to me, but to you, it might look fine. I'm completely cool with that.

What I'm not cool with, however, is some people in this thread insinuating that the ones who are complaining are living a shit life, are somehow ignorant, or pessimists. The logo is the face of our brand, and I think that is reason enough for some people to get on a soapbox if they deem it worthy. If someone doesn't deem it worthy, then go do something you deem more constructive somewhere else on the board instead of putting others down.

This isn't an attack on any one person, but rather something that I think the whole board could/should work on.


Maybe I came back to this board too soon. Lol
 
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Here is what is so stupid ...IT ISN'T a NEW logo...the damn thing was introduced nearly a year ago when it was introduced at Memorial Coliseum. ...and you're bitching about it now???? Some of y'all really need to get a life. .
Some of us live out of state! The logo we see is on apparel and TV at games. If you notice, how many of the football coaches are wearing this logo? I have seen several interviews this season and I haven't seen it once!

The logo represents UK to the World. Do you see Ford changint it's logo. The original Coca Cola is still around. The larger point is that most people don't like. Many of the people on here at UK graduates. We have a right to be critical of OUR logo and take pride in it. It may well represent 50 years of our lives. People have opinions and allowed to express them. Instead of attacking posters about their opinions - tell us why you like the new logo and prove why it needed changing other than someone saying we have a new football field coming - lets change the logo - and make a lot of money on new merchandise.

I take the time to be passionate about what I want too. I don't take the time to play video games all day on my cell phones and computers - now that is a waste of time and someone who does that really doesn't have a life.

Go Big Blue!
 
Its simply a ploy on UK and Nike's part for more apparel sales. I have enough to wear so I will continue to wear shirts that have the old and better logo. I remember folks were not happy at all when the logo was changed from the Wildcat with the UK on it to the UK only logo. Eventually, folks got used to it and moved on. Not a big deal to me, but if someone else has a big problem with it then that is their right.
 
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