Can we list the obvious bad calls that went against Carolina?

[Mojocat]

I mean, in the interests of fairness - and frankly just so I can try decide if it was as bad as my gut tells me. Meeks out of bounds on the jump ball. The flagrant 1 on Ivan Drago. The 4th foul on Collins. Those come readily to mind. Crucial calls at big moments, all against Gonzaga.

Can you think of any that went the other way? Seriously....

 

[TJ4BigBlue]

I mean, in the interests of fairness - and frankly just so I can try decide if it was as bad as my gut tells me. Meeks out of bounds on the jump ball. The flagrant 1 on Ivan Drago. The 4th foul on Collins. Those come readily to mind. Crucial calls at big moments, all against Gonzaga.

Can you think of any that went the other way? Seriously....

Well there was the push off called on Berry.........nah
Well there was the pushing called on Meeks........nah
There was the holding and grabbing called on Jackson.......nah
There was the flagrant one called on ....... no that was Gonzaga
Well there was certainly the call on Hicks and Meeks bodying Gonzaga's big guy and they called for that several times unfairly .... nah

Now that you mention it.... I don't recall

 

[kyboy1998]

You guys must really enjoy adding salt to wounds.

 

[ukwazoo]

Didn't watch it. Couldn't tell you. I see the fat kid went scoreless.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

There was a clean strip that was called a foul on Berry.

There was an air ball that sailed out of bounds that was called a block.... no UNC player touched it.

There was a possible and-one for Meeks that would have fouled out Collins, but it wasn't whistled.

Goss had a very blatant travel that wasn't called but instead drew a foul.

 

[JoeBeeHall]

There was a clean strip that was called a foul on Berry.

There was an air ball that sailed out of bounds that was called a block.... no UNC player touched it.

There was a possible and-one for Meeks that would have fouled out Collins, but it wasn't whistled.

Goss had a very blatant travel that wasn't called but instead drew a foul.

There was a call that should have been made it was the Ncaa calling to say you are getting the death penalty .

 

[TheAnonymous13]

There was a call that should have been made it was the Ncaa calling to say you are getting the death penalty .

I won't disagree with that... but I don't think that was the topic.

 

[madison1329]

There was a clean strip that was called a foul on Berry.

There was an air ball that sailed out of bounds that was called a block.... no UNC player touched it.

There was a possible and-one for Meeks that would have fouled out Collins, but it wasn't whistled.

Goss had a very blatant travel that wasn't called but instead drew a foul.

It was an air ball because Jordan Matthews got fouled. That worked out in UNC's favor, either 3 free throws for Matthews or Gonzaga ball(even though Gonzaga did end up making a 3 that possession).

 

[mkasten25]

There was a clean strip that was called a foul on Berry.

There was an air ball that sailed out of bounds that was called a block.... no UNC player touched it.

There was a possible and-one for Meeks that would have fouled out Collins, but it wasn't whistled.

Goss had a very blatant travel that wasn't called but instead drew a foul.

The Goss travel/foul at the end was a big one. He only hit 1-2 though. That and the 'tip ball' that went against them (the ball wasnt tipped but the shooter was fouled). Zags hit a 3 on that play.

Those were the only two actual bad calls against them.

 

[lkc1234]

I mean, in the interests of fairness - and frankly just so I can try decide if it was as bad as my gut tells me. Meeks out of bounds on the jump ball. The flagrant 1 on Ivan Drago. The 4th foul on Collins. Those come readily to mind. Crucial calls at big moments, all against Gonzaga.

Can you think of any that went the other way? Seriously....

I just remember the non call on Luke Maye when he hung on the rim on his dunk while the ball was in the cylinder against Kentucky. Three officials and no one makes a call. That one call may have cost Kentucky the game. North Carolina gets 2 points and no goal tending call. Unbelievable.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Diary]

You have to give it to Roy. He had his guys put their hands straight up while using their body to push the offensive on shots in the lane. It really seemed to bother the Zags. Kennedy Meeks had approximately 47 fouls that were not called while doing that. There is no way in the world, as physical as he plays and as many fouls that were called, that he should have only had 1 foul in the first half.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

I just remember the non call on Luke Maye when he hung on the rim on his dunk while the ball was in the cylinder against Kentucky. Three officials and no one makes a call. That one call may have cost Kentucky the game. North Carolina gets 2 points and no goal tending call. Unbelievable.

That's just bad officiating.
Northwestern got jobbed when a kid blocked a shot THRU THE NET.

Was that too part of this grand crown- UNC conspiracy or anti-uk bias?

It's just crap officiating.

 

[MWes11]

There was one play that the Gonzaga player was clearly not out of bounds before he passed it in. Not even close really. But I am sure that happens a lot more often than we think.

 

[JoeBeeHall]

I won't disagree with that... but I don't think that was the topic.

It is a message board I am allowed to express my opinion if you do not like it switch to being a Unc fan .

 

[TheAnonymous13]

There was one play that the Gonzaga player was clearly not out of bounds before he passed it in. Not even close really. But I am sure that happens a lot more often than we think.

You are right. But, of course, if a UNC player did it.... there would be photos posted and people screaming further evidence the game was scripted.
I'm sorry, but I think that talk is just so dumb. And it undermines any real discussion about getting more competent officiating.

 

[Soupbean]

The one I'm still curious about was the opening minute when you had that flurry of Carolina guys trying to save the ball under the Zags basket and 3 of them ended up 12 rows up in the stands with a miraculous group save. I was at my Dad's without DVR so couldn't rewind it. Was that all really clean?

 

[TheAnonymous13]

It is a message board I am allowed to express my opinion if you do not like it switch to being a Unc fan .

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
I wasn't meaning to insult... just explaining why I didn't point out the same.
Sorry it offended.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Nearly same play in the Arky game as in the Zags game when reviewing for a tip, a clear foul by UNC was shown. Of course no foul call on Monks 3 as well. It's amazing how good UNC is at defending the 3 without getting fouls called.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

The one I'm still curious about was the opening minute when you had that flurry of Carolina guys trying to save the ball under the Zags basket and 3 of them ended up 12 rows up in the stands with a miraculous group save. I was at my Dad's without DVR so couldn't rewind it. Was that all really clean?

I was wondering the same.

 

[ALL4UK]

The one I'm still curious about was the opening minute when you had that flurry of Carolina guys trying to save the ball under the Zags basket and 3 of them ended up 12 rows up in the stands with a miraculous group save. I was at my Dad's without DVR so couldn't rewind it. Was that all really clean?

I reminded it and watched it one more time. I saw it to be the right call. None of the Carolina players touched out of bounds while trying to save the ball. In real time it sure looked like it though.

 

[ram1955]

uh...it's not a bad call if it goes against unc.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

I reminded it and watched it one more time. I saw it to be the right call. None of the Carolina players touched out of bounds while trying to save the ball. In real time it sure looked like it though.

Wow. Helluva play then....
It looked like that ball was out of bounds three different times.
Thanks!

 

[KMKAT]

UNC simply attacks the offensive boards, daring the refs to stop play.

They didn't until one call late in the game.

 

[otis111]

Hilariuos

 

[Ky-troutbum]

I won't disagree with that... but I don't think that was the topic.

Well it should be!
No matter what the question, the answer is, uncheat is guilty and should already serving their penalties!

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

You had me at Ivan Drago.....

 

[Mojocat]

You had me at Ivan Drago.....

He's not aged well.

 

[YouKay]

There was one play that the Gonzaga player was clearly not out of bounds before he passed it in. Not even close really. But I am sure that happens a lot more often than we think.

I remember Julius Randle getting called for that about 47 times in 2014.

There was another OOB play where a UNC player clearly was stepping over the end line while the Gonzaga player was trying to get the ball in bounds. He was wearing the pink shoes and it was obvious. That is supposed to be a technical foul and I've seen it called in other games. These refs were just extremely sloppy on all end-line plays. They didn't call anything there that should have been called.

 

[westerncat]

 

[westerncat]

I did not watch the game because I knew with many other that UNC ** cheats would win with the help of official's. The picture above just proves that.

 

[martinsm30]

That's just bad officiating.
Northwestern got jobbed when a kid blocked a shot THRU THE NET.

Was that too part of this grand crown- UNC conspiracy or anti-uk bias?

It's just crap officiating.

Yep, 3 of the best college officials in the country completely missed that call.

 

[TheDude73]

That's just bad officiating.
Northwestern got jobbed when a kid blocked a shot THRU THE NET.

Was that too part of this grand crown- UNC conspiracy or anti-uk bias?

It's just crap officiating.

You don't notice, but most of the "crap" officiating this year has directly affected the "little guy" teams that aren't supposed to win (except UK - we are the lone big-named target for "crap" officiating).

It's crap officiating, but oddly the crap this year has oddly stayed on one side of the court at the most crucial times. These refs know what they're doing, and they know how to make or not make calls on what players and at what time, to give their favorites the edge.

Two straight games for UNC, both with nearly identical first halves - three and four key starters on the bench with 2 fouls, yet UNC had only had a few bench players with a couple each.

You listed only a few earlier that were bad calls that could have hurt UNC, but 4 of 5 fouls alone on Collins (all wildly-phantom) were enough to trump those you listed that seemed to go against UNC. That's just one Zags player! Then note that they had three of their most important big men fouled out or nearly fouled out with 5 minutes to go in the 2nd half, while Meeks manhandled everyone without nary a whistle tweet.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

You don't notice, but most of the "crap" officiating this year has directly affected the "little guy" teams that aren't supposed to win (except UK - we are the lone big-named target for "crap" officiating).

It's crap officiating, but oddly the crap this year has oddly stayed on one side of the court at the most crucial times. These refs know what they're doing, and they know how to make or not make calls on what players and at what time, to give their favorites the edge.

Two straight games for UNC, both with nearly identical first halves - three and four key starters on the bench with 2 fouls, yet UNC had only had a few bench players with a couple each.

You listed only a few earlier that were bad calls that could have hurt UNC, but 4 of 5 fouls alone on Collins (all wildly-phantom) were enough to trump those you listed that seemed to go against UNC. That's just one Zags player! Then note that they had three of their most important big men fouled out or nearly fouled out with 5 minutes to go in the 2nd half, while Meeks manhandled everyone without nary a whistle tweet.

I didn't notice that.
And you are making the arguement that the blue bloods (sans uk) were carried by officials... on a year only one such school made the final four.
Non traditional programs like Oregon bounced Kansas. USC toppled Duke. Michigan beat UL. Xavier beat Arizona.
The only top seed outside UNC to arrive in Phoenix was basketball's consummate little guy... the zags.
So, no .... I didn't see what you saw.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

I just remember the non call on Luke Maye when he hung on the rim on his dunk while the ball was in the cylinder against Kentucky. Three officials and no one makes a call. That one call may have cost Kentucky the game. North Carolina gets 2 points and no goal tending call. Unbelievable.

That all ya got from that game?! I could add several.

 

[ram1955]

IMO, the lack of consistency by officials rules out the notion they are consistently calling in favor of teams or groups of teams.

 

[khuff80]

I mean, in the interests of fairness - and frankly just so I can try decide if it was as bad as my gut tells me. Meeks out of bounds on the jump ball. The flagrant 1 on Ivan Drago. The 4th foul on Collins. Those come readily to mind. Crucial calls at big moments, all against Gonzaga.

Can you think of any that went the other way? Seriously....

Only one I can think of as a bad what should've been a Travel Call on Williams-Goss about midway through the 2nd half. Looked like a RB on the play!!!

But in total agreement that the majority of "iffy" / "bad" calls all went against Gonzaga.

 

[khuff80]

There was a clean strip that was called a foul on Berry.

There was an air ball that sailed out of bounds that was called a block.... no UNC player touched it.

There was a possible and-one for Meeks that would have fouled out Collins, but it wasn't whistled.

Goss had a very blatant travel that wasn't called but instead drew a foul.

The 2nd to last one that you mention would've only been Collins's 4th. And the "clean strip" that was called a Foul on Berry. I don't think that was clean and he'd had 2 - 3 earlier unclean strips not called Fouls so even if it was clean he was due to be called there.

 

[khuff80]

You have to give it to Roy. He had his guys put their hands straight up while using their body to push the offensive on shots in the lane. It really seemed to bother the Zags. Kennedy Meeks had approximately 47 fouls that were not called while doing that. There is no way in the world, as physical as he plays and as many fouls that were called, that he should have only had 1 foul in the first half.

I couldn't agree more. Dude easily should've Fouled out a couple of mins. into the 2nd half. Everyone from CBS saying how Karnowski can't make shots that he normally does.......are they blind?!?!?!? Do they not see Meeks bumping him on his shot attempts?!?!??!

 

[Blueaz]

The one I'm still curious about was the opening minute when you had that flurry of Carolina guys trying to save the ball under the Zags basket and 3 of them ended up 12 rows up in the stands with a miraculous group save. I was at my Dad's without DVR so couldn't rewind it. Was that all really clean?

I actually replayed that a few times...it looked like a miraculous save...

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

Didn't watch it. Couldn't tell you. I see the fat kid went scoreless.

he had like 10 shots that I swear went in the rim and bounced out. He was cursed last night.