Can Towles silence his critics with a solid game against Mizzou?

[23jumpboy]

If he goes out and has numbers like the SC game will those with "real" criticism lay low for a while? Or will it take a series of good games to prove he is legit? I am a Towles fan but I too am growing weary of his inconsistency. A poster mentioned the pic he threw against Vandy last year and to me, bar the Miss St game, that his confidence hasn't looked the same. For me, I need to see the consistent qb play of the SC game several games in a row. ???

 

[jauk11]

Are you kidding?

At least half our posters are qualified to be the head coach, and the rest of them are qualified to be the OC. Do you think they are going to change their opinion after just one good game?

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

I doubt it. Got into it a little bit with some drunk arse screaming Towles sucks as he's leaving the stadium. i hope he leads us to victory saturday!

 

[Bigbluediddy63]

If he goes out and has numbers like the SC game will those with "real" criticism lay low for a while? Or will it take a series of good games to prove he is legit? I am a Towles fan but I too am growing weary of his inconsistency. A poster mentioned the pic he threw against Vandy last year and to me, bar the Miss St game, that his confidence hasn't looked the same. For me, I need to see the consistent qb play of the SC game several games in a row. ???

No because he doesn't have it in him, accuracy is something you can't teach and the guy just doesn't have it between the ears.

 

[jauk11]

Yep, there has never been a QB get better with more experience. Let the coaches do their job, if they think he should be replaced he will be, they probably have more riding on it than you do.

 

[Bigbluediddy63]

Yep, there has never been a QB get better with more experience. Let the coaches do their job, if they think he should be replaced he will be, they probably have more riding on it than you do.

If a 4th year junior hasn't gotten it by now then I very seriously doubt he will, Towles reminds me of Morgan Newton with more weapons around him.

 

[JPFisher]

No.

Moreover, HELL NO. Some posters prove to be the most cynical and berating critics of people who perform feats they can't even comprehend doing themselves.

Towles could go out and put every pass on the money but when the receivers drop half the passes and Towles is left with 50% completion, they will be back out en masse.

Towles will get better or we will move on. Simple as that. Towles has been through two coaching regimes and three offensive coordinators. The entire time of which, he has been trying to learn a new offense, get better at his mechanics, and get better with the mental aspect of the game. Couple that with youth at skill positions (even though it is very talented) and it's been even more of an uphill climb for him than the average QB. He's begun his second year of being a starter. If the coaches thought we had a better QB in reserve, he would be out there.

Alas, Towles is the antichrist of this team, he's ripping the very fiber of this establishment apart, and he is making a complete mockery of our program's grand history... That is, if you listen to the experts on this board....

 

[jauk11]

If a 4th year junior hasn't gotten it by now then I very seriously doubt he will, Towles reminds me of Morgan Newton with more weapons around him.

I sure hope the coaches know more than you, don't you? Well, considering some of your other posts, maybe not, but then it could be that you are just an incurable pessimist.

 

[Rhavicc]

No because he doesn't have it in him, accuracy is something you can't teach and the guy just doesn't have it between the ears.

Every single f***ing post.
The title clearly says "Can Towles silence his critics with a solid game against Mizzou", not "is Towles capable of having a solid game against Mizzou"
You're trying to thrash the kid before he even has a chance. You're the quintessential example of the kind of d-bag "fans" that we don't need here, because you don't produce anything of value.

 

[BlueTick2]

If a 4th year junior hasn't gotten it by now then I very seriously doubt he will, Towles reminds me of Morgan Newton with more weapons around him.

Ouch! Newton, really.
I well remember when he was the back up QB people on here were screaming for him to start over Hartline. Oh how wrong so many proved to be.
Towles may or may not pan out but he is much better than Newton was.
I think Pat needs to run the ball much more than he has this season. Can't play scared of getting hurt.

 

[JPFisher]

If Towles runs it 2-3 times per game, that's enough to keep defenses honest. His run against Florida was a huge momentum swing. Florida then had to account for that threat after that.

If our coaches utilize all our tools: Tight ends, shifty wide receivers, and a running QB, we can open up the field way more than what we do now.

 

[TeoJ]

No,because he is the stating QB,and everyone knows the back up is always the best option.

 

[mrschwump]

Not to some. Towles could go 19 for 20 for 350 and 4 TDs and some would bitch about his one incompletion.

 

[Levibooty]

If Towles had lead Kentucky to victory Saturday there would be no discontent. He didn't and there is.

I doubt many fans can name the back up to Andre Woodson because fans loved the way Woodson won games. The fact remains win and all this goes away.

 

[JPFisher]

Curtis Pulley and to a lesser extent, Will Fidler.

Woodson only won us eight games, remember? The slouch.

 

[TBCat]

If he goes out and has numbers like the SC game will those with "real" criticism lay low for a while? Or will it take a series of good games to prove he is legit? I am a Towles fan but I too am growing weary of his inconsistency. A poster mentioned the pic he threw against Vandy last year and to me, bar the Miss St game, that his confidence hasn't looked the same. For me, I need to see the consistent qb play of the SC game several games in a row. ???

Do you really think the SC game was a strong enough high water mark to silence fans? 190 yards 0 TDs and 1 INT is not a very good game. He would silence fans if that were numbers from one of his off nights. If that's a good performance then we are in trouble. Now if Patrick throws for 350+ yards and 3 or 4 TDs then yes he will silence his critics.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

If he leads the team to a victory against Missouri and plays well, and then plays well against EKU that will be at least a start in having 3 solid games out of 4 (SC, Missouri and EKU with a dud against FL thrown in).

 

[gsayers]

If Towles runs it 2-3 times per game, that's enough to keep defenses honest. His run against Florida was a huge momentum swing. Florida then had to account for that threat after that.

If our coaches utilize all our tools: Tight ends, shifty wide receivers, and a running QB, we can open up the field way more than what we do now.

One of my concerns is that Towles was permitted to be a punching bag in this game. When he ran outside the pocket he had very good success running the football. When it became obvious that Florida's pass rush was going to be to much we should have run some bootleg stuff to buy him a little more time.

And at 1st and goal from the 2 I think you have to give him a chance to score on some type running play.

 

[gsayers]

If he leads the team to a victory against Missouri and plays well, and then plays well against EKU that will be at least a start in having 3 solid games out of 4 (SC, Missouri and EKU with a dud against FL thrown in).

I agree. I think we are 4-1 going into the Auburn game. If we have an athletic QB then we have to allow him to be a little athletic. Perhaps there is a reason they want to make sure he absolutely stays healthy.

 

[CatDaddy4daWin]

If Towles had lead Kentucky to victory Saturday there would be no discontent. He didn't and there is.

I doubt many fans can name the back up to Andre Woodson because fans loved the way Woodson won games. The fact remains win and all this goes away.

This is soo false as there were posts immediately after the SC game bashing Towles. If say Boom took over on that last drive and we win there would still be Towles bashing. Probably from the guys asking why Towles wasn't playing his freshman year.

 

[jauk11]

Curtis Pulley and to a lesser extent, Will Fidler.

Woodson only won us eight games, remember? The slouch.

And didn't break even in the SEC (in 07, considered out best team in years, although he did in 06), and that breakout season (06, when we broke even for only the third or fourth time since Curci, ZERO winning seasons in that time) resulted in a fantastic class that Joker inherited for his seniors in 10 that had NINETEEN two stars. Amazing what a good record can do, and what an absolute disgrace of a recruiting room (which was only one indicator of how the Basketball school, at that time, supported football) can do to minimize the coaching and show the people that mattered at the time, our recruits, how UK supported our program at the time.

But super glad that so much has changed, and don't run off this staff before they have a chance to build a real SEC roster. Looked up and posted it on another thread recently, but UK had about sixteen four star commits the past four years IIRC and Florida had THREE TIMES that many PLUS about a half dozen FIVE STAR commits, you know, players that REALLY make a difference.

Going up, but a ways to go yet, Mizzou will be a good test of where we are, I think we win.

Not sure Fidler played at all until Hartline went down, maybe a mopup down or two.

 

[BlueTick2]

Not sure Fidler played at all until Hartline went down, maybe a mopup down or two.

I may be wrong but didn' t he score the winning TD on a QB draw vs Auburn?

 

[yoshukai]

I think he can silence a big percentage of his critics with a solid game . But I'm afraid we'll never know for sure .

 

[Aces Fan]

If he has a good game he will silence some of them, if he can put together 2 or 3 good games in a row he will silence all of them. The fact is that in the last 15 games, or even just the last 3, we have gotten the bad Towles more than the good so expecting a big change this week is probably to much.

 

[NCukcat62]

No. There will always be some sort of bum to hate. But if he comes out and does good, I'll be fine.

 

[Comebakatz3]

This is soo false as there were posts immediately after the SC game bashing Towles. If say Boom took over on that last drive and we win there would still be Towles bashing. Probably from the guys asking why Towles wasn't playing his freshman year.

I think how you win also matters. If you flip the first and second half of the USC game then I bet the fans are much more supportive of Towles. If Towles leads UK on a game winning drive against Florida then I bet people are praising him.

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

Do you really think the SC game was a strong enough high water mark to silence fans? 190 yards 0 TDs and 1 INT is not a very good game. He would silence fans if that were numbers from one of his off nights. If that's a good performance then we are in trouble. Now if Patrick throws for 350+ yards and 3 or 4 TDs then yes he will silence his critics.

This is the best post of the whole thread IMO. Fact is, I still can't figure out why people think Towles played great against SC ??

Our O-Line run-blocking, our RBs and the defense mostly won the game. Not Towles. Give me a break.

Towles is what he is....A slow-thinking QB who happens to be a great athlete and looks good in front of a camera during an interview. He is all image and no substance from what I've seen. I guess some think flipping his curls every time he puts on his helmet adds to his image too.

Now, like the poster said, if he throws for 3 or 4 TDs and has 1 INT or less, we will know Towles has vastly improved. I will be the first to say he finally had a good game against a quality opponent and lets keep playing Towles.

If we see the same ole Towles, I say put in Barker for at least a couple series.

 

[JBnTN]

It would help. But it won't erase the doubts. He's strung together a lot more poor games than good ones, so it'll take more than one solid effort to establish a new, positive trend. It's up to him.

His backup is totally unproven, so we may have a situation where our offense is SEC-quality at every position EXCEPT QB.

 

[Levibooty]

It would help. But it won't erase the doubts. He's strung together a lot more poor games than good ones, so it'll take more than one solid effort to establish a new, positive trend. It's up to him.

His backup is totally unproven, so we may have a situation where our offense is SEC-quality at every position EXCEPT QB.

I think it's a fair concern about the OL and I do not think they are SEC quality. I do not think most SEC teams start a 3 * freshman OT. That doesn't mean the OT will not turn out to be great, just that it is more than most SEC teams ask of their young OT's. There are of course exceptions but they are few. This is where I think the coaches, mainly Dawson has to understand our limitations and try to counter them with tactics.

We are not going to molt into a Arkansas team with a powerful OL this year, we do not have that level of talent, YET. We do have two highly talented high school QB's with many weapons to choose from that many hope could mask a lot of deficiencies with their talent, good judgement, and discipline.

In the game of football successful offenses are lead by their QB,s in some manner even if it is nothing more than game management that Alabama has shown to be a winning strategy. That's the dang job description of a QB and to think otherwise is to not know how football is played and there is no getting around that fact.

 

[frost-1]

I hope Towles has a great game against Missouri. It is about time. I support Towles if can get the job done. If he falters against Missouri, then my heart says Barker should be given a chance. Does anyone know what grades Towles are at UK? And the same for Barker? ditto for Phillips?

 

[Chuckinden]

Yes, he can silence his critics with a solid game........until the next game.

I'm more interested to see what changes the coaches make.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Can we simply understand one thing here. These are kids playing a game. Our coaches believed in them and invited them here. Some are great, others average and sobe are a disappointment, but they still chose to come here. We should appreciate their efforts even when they don't realize the greatness we fans projected. Bashing them is harmful to our program and serves no real purpose. They already know that they've under achieved. How about we simply appreciate the kids efforts.

 

[NavyCat88]

"Can he silence critics with a solid game against Missouri?" Sure, he can silence many of his critics, BUT.......Not without better line play....not without receivers who catch passes delivered to their hands.....not without a sideline staff willing/able to make adjustments at the half.

Is Towles a great QB?....nope. However, he might be able to be a pretty good SEC QB, but not by himself. Many other pieces of the puzzle are failing to hold up their end in this operation. That is a recipe for failure, and quality of QB can not compensate for an offense where most of the vital participants are underperforming.

This is a team game, and I hope Towles leads us to a big Team win, but he is going to need others to do their part.

As the salty old ship's Captain used to say: "Life's a lot easier when everybody does their d@mn job!"

 

[Deeeefense]

So far this year he's gone from goat to hero to goat. This is his week to go back to hero.

 

[mark0202]

I guess I'm different then most on this topic. PT will do as well as the overall offensive game plan put around him. Combined that with the coaching staffs ability to make on the field, realtime changes as the game is played, will dictate on how well PT plays.

 

[yoshukai]

So far this year he's gone from goat to hero to goat. This is his week to go back to hero.

I don't recall the hero part this year . Can you elaborate ?

 

[UKWinsAgainYep]

Can we simply understand one thing here. These are kids playing a game. Our coaches believed in them and invited them here. Some are great, others average and sobe are a disappointment, but they still chose to come here. We should appreciate their efforts even when they don't realize the greatness we fans projected. Bashing them is harmful to our program and serves no real purpose. They already know that they've under achieved. How about we simply appreciate the kids efforts.

Can we all hold hands too?

 

[footballfanatic77]

Towles really has to figure out the mental block. I know he is desperate to win and but it seems like he is standing in his own way.

 

[JasonRDunn]

I may be wrong but didn' t he score the winning TD on a QB draw vs Auburn?

Good memory.

 

[uk_king_cat2]

Are you kidding?

At least half our posters are qualified to be the head coach, and the rest of them are qualified to be the OC. Do you think they are going to change their opinion after just one good game?

I know right....For myself Towles would have to throw for over 400 yards & 5 TD's......But then to do that he would have to have protection and i'm just no so sure that he will get that from his O-line. So as long as he plays a smart game and comes away with the win i'm happy....