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Cal on how he plans to use Oscar

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Just saw this on the Kentucky 24/7 site.


Calipari said.

One misconception is that Tshiebwe must now become a 3-point specialist, too, if he is to flourish in the NBA. He shot 60 percent from the field last year, but did not attempt a single 3-point shot.

“He doesn’t have to go to the 3-point line,” Calipari said. “Who doesn’t shoot 3s? Bam Adebayo, and he’s an All Star.

“He needs to be a better basketball player,” Calipari said. “He needs to get the ball in the middle of the court and make basketball plays. He needs to stretch the court a little bit.”

Calipari has one other tool for Tshiebwe to improve his NBA chances.

“I have to teach him to be a better screener,” the coach said. “I just had on my iPad the best screening big guys in the NBA. I want him to see it. They’re not looking for balls, they’re nailing people. And those guys are playing because they’re create space for everybody else. If your man helps, then they throw you the ball.”

As for Kentucky, Tshiebwe will get help this season from a pair of wing men that would make Top Gun’s Maverick envious – long and lean Daimion Collins and Jacob Toppin.

“The biggest thing for us and this team is that we’ll have two players playing a lot of minutes in Daimion and Jacob who give you more shot-blocking,” Calipari said. “I looked over my 13 years. Let’s look at shots taken, within 5 percent. Threes taken, within 5 percent. 3-point percentage, field goal percentage, rebound margin. In the same ball park. Defensively, in the range. The only thing that was different … blocked shots.

“That’s why I said last year, ‘I need to play Daimion.’ But at the expense of Daimion, I played some other guys,” Calipari said. “Now, they may have done X,Y,Z, but they could not block the shots. Now, you’ve got he and Jacob. Oscar is going to get two or three blocks, but that’s not seven and you need seven, you need eight. Now, we can get back to that.”

One other reason for Tshiebwe to return is that Kentucky has finally navigated the name, image and likeness situation. It’s no exaggeration to say that as an F1 Visa student, one wrong step by Kentucky on the NIL front last year would have led to Tshiebwe being deported to his home in the Congo.

“All this stuff about Oscar making $2 million, come on,” Calipari said. “He’s an F1 student. He can make money passively. Get this, they can put his picture on a billboard, but he can’t do a photo shoot because that’s work. He can sell T-shirts where it’s passive, but he can’t sign autographs because it’s work. He can’t put it on social media.

“The school and the lawyers on campus have done yeoman’s work. Literally dug in to make sure what he can do.”
 
Sorry to see Oscar can’t make more money. What does he have to do to play in the NBA? Dual Citizenship?
 
Just saw this on the Kentucky 24/7 site.


Calipari said.

One misconception is that Tshiebwe must now become a 3-point specialist, too, if he is to flourish in the NBA. He shot 60 percent from the field last year, but did not attempt a single 3-point shot.

“He doesn’t have to go to the 3-point line,” Calipari said. “Who doesn’t shoot 3s? Bam Adebayo, and he’s an All Star.

“He needs to be a better basketball player,” Calipari said. “He needs to get the ball in the middle of the court and make basketball plays. He needs to stretch the court a little bit.”

Calipari has one other tool for Tshiebwe to improve his NBA chances.

“I have to teach him to be a better screener,” the coach said. “I just had on my iPad the best screening big guys in the NBA. I want him to see it. They’re not looking for balls, they’re nailing people. And those guys are playing because they’re create space for everybody else. If your man helps, then they throw you the ball.”

As for Kentucky, Tshiebwe will get help this season from a pair of wing men that would make Top Gun’s Maverick envious – long and lean Daimion Collins and Jacob Toppin.

“The biggest thing for us and this team is that we’ll have two players playing a lot of minutes in Daimion and Jacob who give you more shot-blocking,” Calipari said. “I looked over my 13 years. Let’s look at shots taken, within 5 percent. Threes taken, within 5 percent. 3-point percentage, field goal percentage, rebound margin. In the same ball park. Defensively, in the range. The only thing that was different … blocked shots.

“That’s why I said last year, ‘I need to play Daimion.’ But at the expense of Daimion, I played some other guys,” Calipari said. “Now, they may have done X,Y,Z, but they could not block the shots. Now, you’ve got he and Jacob. Oscar is going to get two or three blocks, but that’s not seven and you need seven, you need eight. Now, we can get back to that.”

One other reason for Tshiebwe to return is that Kentucky has finally navigated the name, image and likeness situation. It’s no exaggeration to say that as an F1 Visa student, one wrong step by Kentucky on the NIL front last year would have led to Tshiebwe being deported to his home in the Congo.

“All this stuff about Oscar making $2 million, come on,” Calipari said. “He’s an F1 student. He can make money passively. Get this, they can put his picture on a billboard, but he can’t do a photo shoot because that’s work. He can sell T-shirts where it’s passive, but he can’t sign autographs because it’s work. He can’t put it on social media.

“The school and the lawyers on campus have done yeoman’s work. Literally dug in to make sure what he can do.”
Great find about Cal’s thoughts. The blocked shot deficiency we had last year doesn’t get talked about enough. We were comfortably the worst shot blocking team of the Cal era. The progression of Collins is essential for this impact.

Having more shot blocking presence not only prevents some scoring opportunities but also changes some shots at the rim. If Toppin can get better offensively he should get more minutes this year. If not, we’ve gotta roll with Collins more. Can easily be a player that gives you 2 BPG in 20 MPG. Regardless Toppin is a little better shot blocker than Brooks due to his athleticism.
 
Sorry to see Oscar can’t make more money. What does he have to do to play in the NBA? Dual Citizenship?
He'll get on a different visa then. Right now he's on a student visa. For the NBA he'd be on a work visa (google says usually P-1, for athletes/performers/entertainers).
 
Sorry to see Oscar can’t make more money. What does he have to do to play in the NBA? Dual Citizenship?
It's because he's on a Student Visa to attend college, is why there are so many restrictions on his ability to work. Once in the NBA he gets a work Visa, an O-1 Visa I think, which doesn't have the restriction on money he can earn. There is a US law about athletes and people with "extraordinary abilities or talents" that get a Visa kinda no questions asked. Can be athletes, movie stars, artists, bands...stuff like that.
 
As most expected, it sounds like Toppin and Collins will split time at the 4 spot.

I hope they are putting in their time at the gym shooting. They will need to be able to stretch the floor on offense, so Cal can keep them in for shot blocking on the defensive end.

What Cal wants to do lineup wise is coming into focus.

Wheeler is going to run the show with Wallace backing him up.

Wallace will start as one wing.

Toppin and Collins will split time at the 4. Toppin probably gets a few more minutes than Collins.

Tshiebwe starts and plays most of the minutes at the 5. Ware backs him up.

The wing spot opposite Wallace is up in the air.

I would personally start Fredrick or Reeves and bring the other off the bench. Then use Livingston as the backup at the 3.

I think Cal will go with the more athletic option and start Livingston and bring Fredrick and Reeves off the bench.

The 9-man rotation will probably look something like this:

G Wheeler/Wallace
G Wallace/Fredrick
F Livingston/Reeves
F Toppin/Collins
F Tshiebwe/Ware
 
Sorry to see Oscar can’t make more money. What does he have to do to play in the NBA? Dual Citizenship?

nothing, as he won’t be a student with the F1 visa restrictions. He’ll presumably be on a regular work visa if he doesn’t become a citizen.
 
Why do you all do this to yourselves. Cal says one thing and then does another. He'll have Oscar shooting from the mid court line before November is out. Id bet money Oscar loses draft status after a second year with Cow.
Yeah, "cause he regressed sooo bad after 1 year under Cow, I mean Coach Calipari. Only got POY. Yeah, you're going on Ignore.
 
As most expected, it sounds like Toppin and Collins will split time at the 4 spot.

I hope they are putting in their time at the gym shooting. They will need to be able to stretch the floor on offense, so Cal can keep them in for shot blocking on the defensive end.

What Cal wants to do lineup wise is coming into focus.

Wheeler is going to run the show with Wallace backing him up.

Wallace will start as one wing.

Toppin and Collins will split time at the 4. Toppin probably gets a few more minutes than Collins.

Tshiebwe starts and plays most of the minutes at the 5. Ware backs him up.

The wing spot opposite Wallace is up in the air.

I would personally start Fredrick or Reeves and bring the other off the bench. Then use Livingston as the backup at the 3.

I think Cal will go with the more athletic option and start Livingston and bring Fredrick and Reeves off the bench.

The 9-man rotation will probably look something like this:

G Wheeler/Wallace
G Wallace/Fredrick
F Livingston/Reeves
F Toppin/Collins
F Tshiebwe/Ware
Let the bricks fly.Oscar might get that 20 rebounds a game he dreamed of!!
 
Yeah, "cause he regressed sooo bad after 1 year under Cow, I mean Coach Calipari. Only got POY. Yeah, you're going on Ignore.
You seem to ignore reality, why not me as well. Cow didnt do shyt for Oscar. Oscar did it himself with great work ethic and attitude. How come Cow can get the most non ready players to remain in the draft but not Oscar? Cow has the pull to have gotten Oscar in a good place for draft night but didnt. Nick Richards, Hamidou Diallo, Kevin Knox, Nerlens Noel. non of these guys are as good as Oscar and yet Oscar is back at UK.
 
Let the bricks fly.Oscar might get that 20 rebounds a game he dreamed of!!
My concern as well. This is why Reeves or Fredrick need to start with Wallace on the wings. That would give us a proven shooter with Wallace on the wings. Spreads the floor for Wheeler to drive and Tshiebwe to post up. Toppin and Collins also need to really work on their range this summer. If one of both become a threat to score from 3, it would really open up the halfcourt offense.

I’m just skeptical. I think Cal will go with the highly ranked, athletic wing (Livingston). Defensive potential over offensive firepower. Cal wants to try to shut teams down, that’s his philosophy.
 
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begok said---“That’s why I said last year, ‘I need to play Daimion.’ But at the expense of Daimion, I played some other guys,”

Well, duh---and exactly WHO kept Collins and Toppin from extra minutes--why of course, begok and his special pet brooks.

begok and his pets--always a pet to need some social activism. 9-16 season, boston, askew and brooks.

round of 64 loss to peter---brooks and wheeler---and the special pet, sharpie the no show!!

Look in the mirror, begok---there YOU will find the primary reason for consecutive pathetic UK seasons.

rr
 
What I don't understand is this statement. “That’s why I said last year, ‘I need to play Daimion.’ But at the expense of Daimion, I played some other guys,” Calipari said. “Now, they may have done X,Y,Z, but they could not block the shots. Now, you’ve got he and Jacob. Oscar is going to get two or three blocks, but that’s not seven and you need seven, you need eight. Now, we can get back to that.”

You are the HC so you can play whomever you want so WHY did you not play Daimion if you really need to play Daimion? Is he saying in 'they have done X, Y, Z' that it was only because they had more experience?
 
Part of that was also DC lack of strength. Any time opponent got one finger on the ball, they was taking it from him. Same problem Richards had initially. And that is grip strength which won’t show in pic with shirts off. Collins needs to be rock climbing 2-3 days a week this summer.
 
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begok said---“That’s why I said last year, ‘I need to play Daimion.’ But at the expense of Daimion, I played some other guys,”

Well, duh---and exactly WHO kept Collins and Toppin from extra minutes--why of course, begok and his special pet brooks.

begok and his pets--always a pet to need some social activism. 9-16 season, boston, askew and brooks.

round of 64 loss to peter---brooks and wheeler---and the special pet, sharpie the no show!!

Look in the mirror, begok---there YOU will find the primary reason for consecutive pathetic UK seasons.

rr
Do you only wear velcro shoes?
 
Announcers were raving about how well Bam sets screens. Be nice to see Oscar pancake some fools next year.
 
You seem to ignore reality, why not me as well. Cow didnt do shyt for Oscar. Oscar did it himself with great work ethic and attitude. How come Cow can get the most non ready players to remain in the draft but not Oscar? Cow has the pull to have gotten Oscar in a good place for draft night but didnt. Nick Richards, Hamidou Diallo, Kevin Knox, Nerlens Noel. non of these guys are as good as Oscar and yet Oscar is back at UK.
Oscar is the first one allowed to make millions of dollars coming back.
 
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Just saw this on the Kentucky 24/7 site.


Calipari said.

One misconception is that Tshiebwe must now become a 3-point specialist, too, if he is to flourish in the NBA. He shot 60 percent from the field last year, but did not attempt a single 3-point shot.

“He doesn’t have to go to the 3-point line,” Calipari said. “Who doesn’t shoot 3s? Bam Adebayo, and he’s an All Star.

“He needs to be a better basketball player,” Calipari said. “He needs to get the ball in the middle of the court and make basketball plays. He needs to stretch the court a little bit.”

Calipari has one other tool for Tshiebwe to improve his NBA chances.

“I have to teach him to be a better screener,” the coach said. “I just had on my iPad the best screening big guys in the NBA. I want him to see it. They’re not looking for balls, they’re nailing people. And those guys are playing because they’re create space for everybody else. If your man helps, then they throw you the ball.”

As for Kentucky, Tshiebwe will get help this season from a pair of wing men that would make Top Gun’s Maverick envious – long and lean Daimion Collins and Jacob Toppin.

“The biggest thing for us and this team is that we’ll have two players playing a lot of minutes in Daimion and Jacob who give you more shot-blocking,” Calipari said. “I looked over my 13 years. Let’s look at shots taken, within 5 percent. Threes taken, within 5 percent. 3-point percentage, field goal percentage, rebound margin. In the same ball park. Defensively, in the range. The only thing that was different … blocked shots.

“That’s why I said last year, ‘I need to play Daimion.’ But at the expense of Daimion, I played some other guys,” Calipari said. “Now, they may have done X,Y,Z, but they could not block the shots. Now, you’ve got he and Jacob. Oscar is going to get two or three blocks, but that’s not seven and you need seven, you need eight. Now, we can get back to that.”

One other reason for Tshiebwe to return is that Kentucky has finally navigated the name, image and likeness situation. It’s no exaggeration to say that as an F1 Visa student, one wrong step by Kentucky on the NIL front last year would have led to Tshiebwe being deported to his home in the Congo.

“All this stuff about Oscar making $2 million, come on,” Calipari said. “He’s an F1 student. He can make money passively. Get this, they can put his picture on a billboard, but he can’t do a photo shoot because that’s work. He can sell T-shirts where it’s passive, but he can’t sign autographs because it’s work. He can’t put it on social media.

“The school and the lawyers on campus have done yeoman’s work. Literally dug in to make sure what he can do.”
Really glad to hear this from Cal. It was not in our best interest (or Oscar's) to have him foating around the 3 point line. The man was player of the year in college basketball hangin around the rim. Just keep doing that and a few free throw line moves to ball fake and attack the basket and some better ball fake step through moves at the rim and he'll average 25/15 and foul out two guys on every team. And still make himself money next year in the NBA
 
Does Calipari even watch the game? Big men shooting 3s is where the game is going!
I don't think he is saying that. He is saying that for a big to shoot 3's is not the ONLY way a big can play. AND he gave an example, a very relevant one to UK fans.
But if Oscar can show he can make a decent % of 3's, I can't see Cal not letting his NPOY shoot them (1-2 a game).

And just because a player has not shot them before doesn't mean he can't add that to his game. Patterson made zero 3's his first 2 years, made 35% as a JR. The other night I watched former UF C swish 2-3 of them, I don't recall him making anything more than 10' from the basket in college. Same for Barkley, and a long list of other big guys. I watched McCarty practicing shooting them at Seaton Center his Prop 48 year several times, OMG he was a horrible 3pt shooter in there not even being guarded (maybe made 10%), then the next 3 years he made like 40%.
 
Only two instances of players not playing pissed me off.

Sharpe and Hopkins.

“MaKe Me PlAy YoU”

Hopkins did. Cal said no. Hopkins left. Pretty simple.
I wanted Sharpe to play when the injuries decimated UK’s backcourt (otherwise I really wasn’t concerned about whether he played or not). I’m also with you on wanting Hopkins to play a little more (but, of course, I might have been wrong on that).

BUT my biggest gripe on who should play was Dontaie Allen during the 2020-2021 year. I thought he should have played major minutes and even probably started. Not because he was necessarily the best option at that SF position at that time, but because I knew the season was a lost cause and the other options would be gone after the season while Allen would be back during the 2021-22 year (and I thought he had a high level of talent/potential). I got to the point of frustration that I didn’t even want to watch those 20-21 games unless Allen was playing. Turn the page to 2021-22 and I see that I was apparently wrong. I suspect two things: (1) Allen was too comfortable where he was at and didn’t put in the kind of work needed during the summer; and/or more likely (2) he just doesn’t have the motor and/or basketball instincts/IQ to be the level of college SF I thought he could be. I thought Allen got every minute he deserved last season – and in fact got more minutes than he deserved. Morale of the story, as a fan what I want is not always what is correct.
 
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What I don't understand is this statement. “That’s why I said last year, ‘I need to play Daimion.’ But at the expense of Daimion, I played some other guys,” Calipari said. “Now, they may have done X,Y,Z, but they could not block the shots. Now, you’ve got he and Jacob. Oscar is going to get two or three blocks, but that’s not seven and you need seven, you need eight. Now, we can get back to that.”

You are the HC so you can play whomever you want so WHY did you not play Daimion if you really need to play Daimion? Is he saying in 'they have done X, Y, Z' that it was only because they had more experience?
I honest to God, thank he is crazy and getting worse.
 
After the Kansas game the team was averaging 82 points per game. The rest of the season just 75. Quite the difference.

In the loss to St. Peter's the Wildcats only had 71 points at the end of regulation. Well below the seasonal average. The offense sputtered down the stretch. UK finished 6-4 in the last 10 games and only hit 79 points in 3 games. 1 of which I mentioned above that went to OT and saw UK only having 71 points heading there.
 
After the Kansas game the team was averaging 82 points per game. The rest of the season just 75. Quite the difference.

In the loss to St. Peter's the Wildcats only had 71 points at the end of regulation. Well below the seasonal average. The offense sputtered down the stretch. UK finished 6-4 in the last 10 games and only hit 79 points in 3 games. 1 of which I mentioned above that went to OT and saw UK only having 71 points heading there.
Shhhhh....facts like these are disturbing to some.

Teams afjusted to Wheeler mainly imo. St Peters went zone and Cal and UK had no answer. Unless Wheeler develops a consistent jumper, more of the same this coming year if Wheeler is the main PG.
 
After the Kansas game the team was averaging 82 points per game. The rest of the season just 75. Quite the difference.

In the loss to St. Peter's the Wildcats only had 71 points at the end of regulation. Well below the seasonal average. The offense sputtered down the stretch. UK finished 6-4 in the last 10 games and only hit 79 points in 3 games. 1 of which I mentioned above that went to OT and saw UK only having 71 points heading there.

Just ignore the facts why don't you.
After the KU game you say.
After the KU game, our best all-around offensive player (Tyty) missed all of 2 games and 1/2 of 2 more games, and due to his leg injuries was a shell of himself offensively when he did play, making only 25% of his 3's (except for the Vandy SEC-T game).
After the KU game, Grady's foot ailment (PF) took another 6 games to see an effect making nearly 50% of his 7 3pt attempts per game. But after those 6 games, you could see the foot injury affecting him (I was saying he wasn't working as hard to get open), and he made just over 20% of his (reduced) 4 3pt shots per game those last 7 games.
After the KU game, Mintz last 8 games felt the pressure of both Grady and Tyty slumping, and he too made only 25% of his 3's.
After the KU game, Wheeler missed 2 games. And yeah when our other weapons weren't firing straight, it made him less effective, but they weren't firing straight (well 2 of the 3) for a good reason (injuries).
 
Shhhhh....facts like these are disturbing to some.

Teams afjusted to Wheeler mainly imo. St Peters went zone and Cal and UK had no answer. Unless Wheeler develops a consistent jumper, more of the same this coming year if Wheeler is the main PG.
Shhh... just ignore the injury facts, they disturb you.

We faced zone before SPU. When guys made shots, we were effective against it. When we didn't, we weren't. Plain and simple. And when guys weren't healthy, they couldn't move as quickly as before to get open or to get past a defender both reducing their shots and making them more difficult ones when they did shoot.
 
Triple C’s emphasis on blocking shots is one of the things I’ve always disliked about his coaching. His preaching about blocking shots and placing such an emphasis on it is why our players are always leaving their feet at the slightest shot fake. It’s why our weak side defenders always come flying over to help and leave their man standing there for a weak side rebound and put back. It’s why players like Ware get two quick fouls and can’t stay on the floor.
How about teaching a zone, how to defend the pick and roll, defending on the block by bodying up your man with two hands up at the shot, blocking out, a respectable offense, out of bounds plays etc, and let the shot blocks happen within the flow of the game.
Anyone who has watched his KY teams can see how him placing such an emphasis on blocking shots has hurt more than it helped. He still thinks AD is here I guess.
 
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