Nah - I kind of see it the other way around. He sat to protect his stock and then came back to show he was OK.
Cal is choking again
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And I'll never agree with that argument. He said all along they weren't scouting teams or game planning for them. They had almost no inbounds plays. He never bothered to teach a zone. Etc. That's a coach not trying to win. That's not stubbornness.
Ranking One final four tubby ahead of 4 final fours cal just shows some of our fans aren't all about "final fours and national titles" and such. Even with the final four crappy years, cal runs circles around tubby because he could at least make multiple final fours.
I feel the exact same way about Cal. But are you saying you didn't recognize that look of panic on his face when Kansas got up by three late? In 2014 we beat Louisville because Cal kept his cool while Pitino was losing his and it transferred to the players down the stretch. I think the pressure of 2015 flipped him. Any time an important game got close he started looking like someone who couldn't locate their child. Walking around panicking but trying to look like they weren't.
Unfortunately No Robinson. no banner.....needed him to get us over the hump scoring-wise
Stupid ass comment. he won SEVERAL tournament games here. Damn Cal is STILL in a lot of you posters head. How is it that a guy makes a 3 and saves his butt, but when they turn it over ad take bad shots, it is Cal's fault ? Just stupid ass hate and not using any rational at all to prop up your disdain for him. I am glad he won last night just to see some of you squirm. He he beats St. Johns to really get under your skin. HE IS GONE, LET IT GO !!!!!!!!
A fair question is why you’d be posting here if you don’t like Pope?
Oh I didn’t turn it on until right at the very end, so I didn’t see Kansas’ comeback. I do know the exact look you are talking about, and it drove me nuts when he was here. To be honest I was surprised to see Ark pull off the win.
Your math is a little off, not surprised.
23-24 - 0 wins
22-23 - 1 win (Providence)
21-22 - 0 wins
20-21 - 0 wins
18-19 - 3 wins (Abilene Christian, Wofford, Houston)
By MY count that is 4 wins. Not great, but I didn't make up shit or use false narratives.
By the way, 19-20, you used, you knew there was no tournament, so can't count that year, you said IN the tournament. Ha. But they was 26-5. Not defending Cal or bashing Pope, he has ZERO wins ALL TIME in the tournament. If he losses to Troy, you might want to shut your mouth bashing a former coach. I hope you do not cause Karma to show up this year, just leave the Cal shit in the past, especially when Pope hasn't done jack shit. We lost 11 games this year, not like it was all roses.
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Shallow comment. They are playing without easily their best player (Thiero) and it was Fland's first game back. Shit on Cal all you want, but that was a good win. IF they was to get Thiero back, if I was Three Stacks, I would be nervous as hell facing Cal, he OWNS Rick. He is playing with house money now, 10 seed, if they lose, they was suppose to. BUT, if they win,,,,,,,,,, A LOT of you are going to be very miserable. He will be all the way in your head.
I was never a Cal fan and sick of him when he was still at Memphis and knew he would leave the UK program in a mess, which he did. Glad he is gone, it's nice to be able to enjoy watching UK again, I had basically quit watching the last several years since I couldn't stand Cal or the awful style of basketball that he "coached" . Glad to see him Gooooooo and ruuuunnnn to the Pigs.
With the first game monkey off his back, Cal and Arkansas have a great chance of making a good run if they manage to beat St. John’s.
you sound like a Ark fan, Cal is a Pompous person who got a 11 million a yr at Ky last 5 years I think winning one game in a NCAA tourney. I am a Pope and Ky fan.
When pope goes YEARS in a row without a win in the NCAA tourney, then you can crow all you like.
NOT an Arkansas fan. I just chose to not act like a child when he doesn't get his way. IDGAF what Cal does now, he is not at UK anymore, but I am not going to trash him or make up false narratives to shit on him like a scorned lover who can't let the Ex go. I did the math for the last 5 TOURNAMENT results, your 1 win is wrong and slanted to fit the narrative. I to am a UK (probably before you was even born), but I will not bash the former coach on a message board daily because he is no longer here. Some of you did the EXACT same thing when Pitino left, Tubby left, and WILL do the exact same shit when Pope leaves. It is in your DNA to shit on coaches no longer here. Hell, MOST of you do it to the players also. It is like when you use up all the good they did, then leave, you act like they wasn't good for UK. CAL REBUILT UK, we was in the shitter after Billy Gillispie left. He made us the cool school again,,,,,, and winning again. Just because he had subpar results in the tournament or didn't win like YOU wanted him to, doesn't mean he did not advance UK, if you say he didn't, you are just a miserable fan. EVERY coach goes thru rough times, ALL of them. Look at Self, Three Stacks, or any other winning / HOF coach, they do not win EVERY year.
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I thought about taking Arkansas at 75-1 to win the region....chickened out mainly because I couldn't stand pulling for Cal. No problem with their players.
Everyone, not everything has to be so black and white. Two things can be true at once: Arkansas was saved a bit by sloppy Kansas play down the stretch, and Cal has done a pretty good job turning this team around and has them playing pretty well at this point. Remember they also didn't have Thiero last night.
Well, he has. He has NEVER won a tournament game (more than a few YEARS, EVERY year), lost DD games YEARLY at BYU, lost 11 this year. he is a very good coach, I love everything he stands for, BUT if he flames out this year after losing 11 games and a 3 seed, what will be your opinion ?
Let me remind you about those YEARS you mentioned :
23-24 - 23-8 regular season, beat SEVERAL very good teams, they just couldn't defend, like this year under Pope.
22-23 - 22-10 regular season, beat Providence in 1st round.
21-22 - 25-6 regular season
20-21 - 9-15, TERRIBLE year.
19-20 - 25-6 regular season, no tournament, COVID.
18-19 - 26-5 regular season, made it to the Elite 8, winning 3 games.
17-18 - 21-10 regular season, WON SEC tournament, lost in the Sweet 16 to K-State 61-58. UK shot 23/37 from the free throw line, committed 15 turnovers. Cal didn't shoot ONE of those free throws, or commit a single turnover. All of that, they still only lost by 3 for a chance to go back to the Elite 8 back to back years.
So while his last 6 years was subpar by UK standards, lets not act like he was some run of the mill AVERAGE program. UK had 5 very good teams out of the 6 years, lost a couple early tournament games to St Peters (who went on to make it to the Elite 8, they was good, and the inexcusable lost to Oakland last year when Reed Sheppard was a no show, and they couldn't guard a fence post.
IF Pope gets those results (other than the 9-15 year), he would have done a fantastic job, winning is hard, especially now the SEC is so damn strong. Lets see if Pope can take UK to the Final 4's, win a championship, have a top 2 program like Cal did his first 9 years. Remember, Cal had to completely rebuild the program also. He just did it very quickly. It is a damn shame he will be remembered for the 3/4 bad years at UK, and NOT the 11/12 great ones. I call that short term memory. I will be willing to bet anyone who wants to bet, pope will NOT have the success Cal had for his tenure at UK, but we all know nobody will take that bet. He won a hell of a lot more at UK than he lost. It is shitty for our fans to ONLY remember the less than expected years.
And it was Fland's first game back. He was with his BEST player (by a wide margin) and his PG returned after missing several games, and STILL beat Self and Kansas. Too many fans slant shit to fit their agenda. When he wins, he is "lucky", when he losses (even against great teams in a close game), he caused them to lose. it amazes me all of the idiotic post that is not even remotely close to what actually too place. In another of my post, UK lost to K-State in the Sweet 16 shooting 23/37 from the free throw line and had 15 turnovers, Cal did not shoot ONE of those free throws nor commit ONE of the 15 turnovers, but it is his fault they lost.
Your math is off, or your reading comprehension more likely. I said "years," not "tournaments."
You obviously DO care, or you wouldn't post a wall of text responding to every post badmouthing your boy.
YOUR reading comprehension is off from YOUR own post. "wins in the tournament this year" "as he's had in the last 5 years combined" So, like I said, YOUR math is off. The last 5 previous TOURNAMENTS (your own words, not mine) Cal has 4 wins. I posted the last 5 tournaments and the wins for each. And to your second quote of mine, NO I truly do not care. But what I DO care about is calling out posters and showing them they are wrong / slanting the facts to fit their narrative. I got all the time in the world, slow day at work, keep posting false shit, I will keep proving YOU wrong. Your choice.
