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Bump this thread when Indiana sucks

Lose a returning starter and double-digit scorer Justin Smith to the transfer portal because -- well, it's Indiana and they suck.

It's not like he was recruited over or couldn't get minutes - he averaged 30-plus last year and no incoming freshman was a threat at all.

But a person can only take so much little Archie and Bloomington suckage.
 
IU is a classic example of one coach being their entire program, just like Dook. When the Rat Faced Bastard leaves they will fall from the grace of ESPN and the NCAA. Now they may not suck as bad as Indiana but we can only hope !
they will, the only thing that keeps recruits coming is K why would any top recruit wanna come to a posh snobby rich kid private school without a legendary coach duke is looking more and more like IU by the day
 
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they will, the only thing that keeps recruits coming is K why would any top recruit wanna come to a posh snobby rich kid private school without a legendary coach duke is looking more and more like IU by the day
K is 73 and probably should have packed it up a few years ago. Maybe he’s the kind of coach who’d rather die as a coach than step down.
 
IU is a classic example of one coach being their entire program, just like Dook. When the Rat Faced Bastard leaves they will fall from the grace of ESPN and the NCAA. Now they may not suck as bad as Indiana but we can only hope !
Except for this guy named Branch McCracken...He won 2 National titles, 367 games....May have won a 3rd title if not for all sports at IU being placed on probation; football program was hit with sanctions. Anyways...1960 Hoosiers went 20-4, and split with eventual National champs Ohio State. That was a very good team, that won their last 12 games of the year.

IU has been mostly irrelevant since Knight....But they are not a classic example of one coach being their entire program.
 
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Except for this guy named Branch McCracken...He won 2 National titles, 367 games....May have won a 3rd title if not for all sports at IU being placed on probation; football program was hit with sanctions. Anyways...1960 Hoosiers went 20-4, and split with eventual National champs Ohio State. That was a very good team, that won their last 12 games of the year.

IU has been mostly irrelevant since Knight....But they are not a classic example of one coach being their entire program.
before Knight, IU had 2 rather anomalous titles (40, 53) under McCracken, and not much else.

From 1938-39 (his first year) until Knight arrived (71-72), they won all of 6 Big 10 titles, had 8 losing seasons, and- aside from the two championship years- won a total of 3 NCAA tournament games, all of them in regional consolation rounds.


Then Knight arrived, and his first 16 years produced 3 titles and 4 Final Fours. Since then, two Final Fours in 33 years... and not much else.


The years before McCracken were even worse, with 13 losing seasons from the program's inception (1901) thru 1937, and only 3 Big 9/Big 10 titles.
 
before Knight, IU had 2 rather anomalous titles (40, 53) under McCracken, and not much else.

From 1938-39 (his first year) until Knight arrived (71-72), they won all of 6 Big 10 titles, had 8 losing seasons, and- aside from the two championship years- won a total of 3 NCAA tournament games, all of them in regional consolation rounds.


Then Knight arrived, and his first 16 years produced 3 titles and 4 Final Fours. Since then, two Final Fours in 33 years... and not much else.


The years before McCracken were even worse, with 13 losing seasons from the program's inception (1901) thru 1937, and only 3 Big 9/Big 10 titles.
I mean you can dissect it how you please...Fact remains, McCracken was a very good coach, that won two national titles...Also, McCracken had two stints at IU; he left for a 3 year Naval deployment for WW2....His first 5 years at Indiana, he went 87-17, with one title. When he left, he had a very, very good team returning, that may have won another title..

To say IU is a program of ONE coach, well, is wrong.

Note: Odd that you called "MCCrackens titles anomalous....But not Knights. Or at the least, his(Knights first). Do the other two validate the first? I mean, would it be fair to call Rupp's title at UK, anomalous? He won 4, yes....But he did so in 33 years; Yes I know Rupp coached for 41 years. But only 33 of those were during the NCAAT.

In other words, to call McCrackens titles anomalous is childish, my friend.
 
I mean you can dissect it how you please...Fact remains, McCracken was a very good coach, that won two national titles...Also, McCracken had two stints at IU; he left for a 3 year Naval deployment for WW2....His first 5 years at Indiana, he went 87-17, with one title. When he left, he had a very, very good team returning, that may have won another title..

To say IU is a program of ONE coach, well, is wrong.

Note: Odd that you called "MCCrackens titles anomalous....But not Knights. Or at the least, his(Knights first). Do the other two validate the first? I mean, would it be fair to call Rupp's title at UK, anomalous? He won 4, yes....But he did so in 33 years; Yes I know Rupp coached for 41 years. But only 33 of those were during the NCAAT.

In other words, to call McCrackens titles anomalous is childish, my friend.
Sarr-y Borden but IU sucks and will always suck..
 
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Sarr-y Borden but IU sucks and will always suck..
Naaah....Eventually IU will get it right...I think they have with Miller. But even if not, oh, well....It ain't life or death. Its a game. Im proud to be a fan of a program with 5 National titles.....Only three schools to date have more.
 
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Good outlook.
I like Miller. I like how he's recruiting/building. He's had some tough luck early with injuries...Took over a sham of a roster. If there is a this year, then this is the year IMO that he has to put up, or pack up... The pieces are there.

BUt ya know, it is what it is...Indiana winning or losing doesn't shape my life. It's a passion, for sure. And I love my Hoosiers. I yell, agonize, even cry, over the tough losses...the what could have beens, etc, etc...But at the end of the day----Its simply a game.
 
I like Miller. I like how he's recruiting/building. He's had some tough luck early with injuries...Took over a sham of a roster. If there is a this year, then this is the year IMO that he has to put up, or pack up... The pieces are there.

BUt ya know, it is what it is...Indiana winning or losing doesn't shape my life. It's a passion, for sure. And I love my Hoosiers. I yell, agonize, even cry, over the tough losses...the what could have beens, etc, etc...But at the end of the day----Its simply a game.
did you cry against UK in 2012? the hoosiers played hard
 
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did you cry against UK in 2012? the hoosiers played hard
Naaah.....It was a tough loss, for sure. But the solace in it was, well, my wife was happy...:)..Plus, if we were to lose, might as well be to UK, and the best team; unfortunately, we didn't lose to UNC....[smoke]

But yeah, that was a toughie...Didn't expect to win. But then again, I didn't expect UK to shoot 35-37 from the FT line either...As the tourney progressed, I felt we were the best team UK played..
 
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You got it Cowboy. Have fun being irrelevant and proud of it.
How do you know I;m irrelevant...? You guys kill me with this shit. YOu have zero idea who I am , what I do for a lving, etc, etc...I mean sure in the grand-schemes of things, I am irrelevant. But no more, or no less than you are...

Why feel the need to put yourself on a pedestal?

And you think I take this serious? You simply don't like me b/c I'm an IU fan....How fuking stupid is that?
 
How do you know I;m irrelevant...? You guys kill me with this shit. YOu have zero idea who I am , what I do for a lving, etc, etc...I mean sure in the grand-schemes of things, I am irrelevant. But no more, or no less than you are...

Why feel the need to put yourself on a pedestal?

And you think I take this serious? You simply don't like me b/c I'm an IU fan....How fuking stupid is that?

Im talking about all IU fans....irrelevant. Are you that dense that you couldn’t figure that out? Apparently.
 
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Im talking about all IU fans....irrelevant. Are you that dense that you couldn’t figure that out? Apparently.
I guess I am that dense....When you tell ME---"have fun being irrelevant", well sill yme to think you are talking to me...If Said to you, "Have fun being an asshole", would you take that as me calling all UK fans, "assholes"?

Man you got some serious anger issues....People are people, brother. That is not shaped by whom you root for, but by who/how you were raised....Again, you take this waaaaaay to personal...I mean think about this...All this started over me saying Gonzaga had been to 3 Elite 8's and a title game.....That is all. And from there, you went bat-shit crazy.

Says a lot more about you, then it does me.

I call a truce...I'll avoid you...You do the same.
 
I guess I am that dense....When you tell ME---"have fun being irrelevant", well sill yme to think you are talking to me...If Said to you, "Have fun being an asshole", would you take that as me calling all UK fans, "assholes"?

Man you got some serious anger issues....People are people, brother. That is not shaped by whom you root for, but by who/how you were raised....Again, you take this waaaaaay to personal...I mean think about this...All this started over me saying Gonzaga had been to 3 Elite 8's and a title game.....That is all. And from there, you went bat-shit crazy.

Says a lot more about you, then it does me.

I call a truce...I'll avoid you...You do the same.

You said all that to still not get it. Tonight will show that you started the name calling and went ape chit, not me. IU and it’s fans are a disgrace.
 
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F. Scott Fitzgerald, who happens to be buried in a small churchyard about three miles from where I live, once said the test of a first-class mind is to be able to hold two opposing ideas at the same time, and still be able to function.

That said, here's the test:

"Borden is an okay guy. And IU basketball sucks and has sucked for nearly 30 years."

Not hard for me. I must be a smart guy.
LOL I agree Borden seems like a good guy. He reminds me of a guy who used to work for me when I worked for a company in Newburgh In. He was a die hard IU fan. We argued and fought harmlessly all year long about basketball but we were close friends. He found out he had cancer and till he couldn't work anymore we still went at it the same good natured way . My friend passed away and when I went to his funeral I introduced myself to his wife and she said your the Kentucky fan he loved to mess with with and I said yes mam I am. She just laughed and said you will never know how much fun and enjoyment he got out of that.
 
I guess I am that dense....When you tell ME---"have fun being irrelevant", well sill yme to think you are talking to me...If Said to you, "Have fun being an asshole", would you take that as me calling all UK fans, "assholes"?

Man you got some serious anger issues....People are people, brother. That is not shaped by whom you root for, but by who/how you were raised....Again, you take this waaaaaay to personal...I mean think about this...All this started over me saying Gonzaga had been to 3 Elite 8's and a title game.....That is all. And from there, you went bat-shit crazy.

Says a lot more about you, then it does me.

I call a truce...I'll avoid you...You do the same.
IU sucks and so do you.
 
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