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Bruce pearl would’ve had us #1

And we didn’t talk to him. He basically begged for the job.

I love mark pope but hiring a coach who has never won an ncaa tournament game versus hiring a proven final four guy foaming at the month for validation is insane.

Still gonna ride pope but he was the hire in 10 years. Pearl was the guy we should’ve got today.
Barney knew pope would be so happy to take the job that he (Barney) could be involved with the team, even micromanage some. Like this clip I’m about to link with him banging garrsion in the chest with his finger berating him. That’s not his job but he knows pope isn’t doing anything about it. UK needs a big ego as coach but Barney can’t handle it. As a former head coach that’s a non starter for the AD to come lecture my kids. We would all take the UK job as would many former players. It doesn’t mean they are the right fit. Cbb more than ever is all about the coach and their personality. You can tell a guy like pearl is exactly who he shows himself to be and he is a fun guy. Players want to play for him and he is hungry probably more than any coach out there right now. No way could Barney do what’s best for basketball and put his ego aside. Not anymore. He’s had too many sour moments to continue on. It all clouds his judgement. I think too he’s weak and wouldn’t poach another SEC teams coach. There’s way too much baggage for this guy to make rational decisions. UK fans knew it before cal that Barney couldn’t make the next hire. It was discussed ad nauseam here. Thats why I’m confounded by many fans who don’t care about popes lack of cred for the job any longer

 
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I like this idea. If Pearl really wants the Kentucky job, he should sit Davis and Kelly and another guard of his choise, and win the National Championship this year. That would prove he could have Kentucky number 1 with their current roster problems. I'm sure Pope would resign in shame, and Pearl would be named Kentucky's head coach the following day.
 
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Simple . We don’t hire slime bags . End of story
Lol there are no more “slime bags”. The ncaa has laxed so much it doesn’t matter. And idk how old you are but our 3 most recent titles and success was brought to you by the biggest “slime bags” in the business. (sans tubby who won with slime bags players then mr nice guy couldn’t get it done). Every successful coach gets labeled if pearl were at UK you would love him just like Rick just like cal. I can’t think of a successful top 5 program that wasn’t run by a “slime bag” in some form. They’re human beings get over it

Here is a question. Who are some coaches who win consistently that are nice guys? In like the last 10 years? Hurley? By all accounts a vile person? Roy Williams? Bill self? Answer there are none.
 
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We hired cal and rick. They're two of the biggest.

Maybe Pope is better long term but its surprising people can't at least admit Pearl would be better short term. All because they like pope because he played here.

I really like him too, but lets be honest - had he not played here, his resume doesn't get a sniff at this job.
Pope did not merely "play here". He was the captain and leader of maybe the greatest team in UK basketball history--as a transfer--and they won the national championship. He is the right age, with impeccable character and a brilliant mind and the perfect temperament for this unique job; and he has worked tirelessly to succeed his entire life.

The resources at UK, from the amazing fanbase and tradition to the facilities and the commitment from the administration, create a one of a kind environment for a quality coach to produce championships, e.g., Joe B. Hall, who succeeded Rupp because of his connection to the program and not his "resume". Unfortunately, since Coach Hall, there have been several with the "resume" to succeed but whose character was less than stellar or who became lazy and/or belittled the fanbase. Mark Pope is unburdened by those weaknesses and his priorities are pure. He is all about the program, not the other way around.
 
I like this idea. If Pearl really wants the Kentucky job, he should sit Davis and Kelly and another guard of his choise, and win the National Championship this year. That would prove he could have Kentucky number 1 with their current roster problems. I'm sure Pope would resign in shame, and Pearl would be named Kentucky's head coach the following day.

Injuries played a role but consider this: would our 7-10 roster guys be recruited by bama or Auburn? Absolutely not. We know it for sure, because they weren't recruited by either.

So roster management is a big part. Pope's philosophy is recruit shooters and basically outshoot the opposition. That worked until he got here where Florida, bama, and Auburn all shoot just as good, plus have better athletes, and play much better defense.

His roster and team philosophy really needs to be reevaluated. His game prep and coaching are both great, except on defense. There we need more than just better athletes.
 
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This is just a silly take at this point in time. If this happens next year then I will listen to you, but Pope had zero time to recruit and the portal was even limited with players when he arrived. He had 0 returning players and on top of all that he was crushed with numerous injuries at key positions all year long. I am not sure this was ever a championship team, but we were way better when healthy than we are now for sure. Just look at the early games in the season when we were healthy.
This is a great post and truly covers the season well. I'm riding with Pope who had a rough season being left no players by previous coach, having so little to choose from and suffering multiple key injuries. Still won 22 games with some very huge wins as well. I feel the OP is just trying to stir things up and needs to be ignored.
 
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Well for conversation I'll respond to this. I know a lot of us DID think Pearl would get an invite...but he would've had to bring his team to have UK compete for the final 4. He KNEW a lot of what he had this year. I kinda think you may be getting time frames mixed up...I think Pearl was wanting to be here before he took the Tennessee job. Let's remember Pearl was hired under a show cause by Auburn...and there was a Lotta stuff brewing down there.
I doubt that either Barnhart or Capiluto wanted any more controversy.

Cool dream man...just not the way it is.
 
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Did you hear him in the post game after he beat our brains in at Rupp? If you really think he wouldn’t have taken the call I don’t know what to say.
It is not that he would have wanted to come. He wants his son to take over, same as Eddie Sutton. UK does not allow nepotism in that form. So Pearl might have wanted it but have never come in the end. It would have been contract negotiations.
 
And we didn’t talk to him. He basically begged for the job.

I love mark pope but hiring a coach who has never won an ncaa tournament game versus hiring a proven final four guy foaming at the month for validation is insane.

Still gonna ride pope but he was the hire in 10 years. Pearl was the guy we should’ve got today.
The job wasn't offered to Pearl because UK didn't want him. What's your purpose? You need to ask Mitch why he didn't offer Pearl but posting this drivel has no point. We have a damn good coach and the fanbase is well pleased with him, so again what's the point?
 
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Pearl is a great coach, no doubt about it, I like Pope but he is still not a proven good coach, I hope he does well at Ky in a year or so but Mitch going after him still is hard to understand.
 
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Pearl and Oats are garbage humans. If you want to put up with that for the chance to win, transfer your fandom.
 
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Pope did not merely "play here". He was the captain and leader of maybe the greatest team in UK basketball history--as a transfer--and they won the national championship. He is the right age, with impeccable character and a brilliant mind and the perfect temperament for this unique job; and he has worked tirelessly to succeed his entire life.

The resources at UK, from the amazing fanbase and tradition to the facilities and the commitment from the administration, create a one of a kind environment for a quality coach to produce championships, e.g., Joe B. Hall, who succeeded Rupp because of his connection to the program and not his "resume". Unfortunately, since Coach Hall, there have been several with the "resume" to succeed but whose character was less than stellar or who became lazy and/or belittled the fanbase. Mark Pope is unburdened by those weaknesses and his priorities are pure. He is all about the program, not the other way around.

It doesn't matter. If you're hiring coaches based on accomplishments as a player, hire wayne turner or dan issel. Of course thats ridiculous but so is justifying Pope's hire based solely on the same criteria.

UK does have amazing resources. Thats why they need an amazing coach to best utilize them. I think pope is the better long term answer, but his resume was sorely lacking when he got hired. Thats indisputable.
 
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And we didn’t talk to him. He basically begged for the job.

I love mark pope but hiring a coach who has never won an ncaa tournament game versus hiring a proven final four guy foaming at the month for validation is insane.

Still gonna ride pope but he was the hire in 10 years. Pearl was the guy we should’ve got today.
So stupid. Show me where “he begged for the job.” I’ll wait. You can’t cause it never freakin happened.
Did you know that Pope only coached TWO tournament games and one of the losses was to eventual final four UCLA? Of course you didn’t cause you’re just regurgitating another stupid troll talking point. Weak.
 
lol pearl or cal if they had 3 major injuries would be winning like 8 games this season. i don't want pearl he was a good division 2 coach, he just has good returning players like oats and bama.
 
Barney knew pope would be so happy to take the job that he (Barney) could be involved with the team, even micromanage some. Like this clip I’m about to link with him banging garrsion in the chest with his finger berating him. That’s not his job but he knows pope isn’t doing anything about it. UK needs a big ego as coach but Barney can’t handle it. As a former head coach that’s a non starter for the AD to come lecture my kids. We would all take the UK job as would many former players. It doesn’t mean they are the right fit. Cbb more than ever is all about the coach and their personality. You can tell a guy like pearl is exactly who he shows himself to be and he is a fun guy. Players want to play for him and he is hungry probably more than any coach out there right now. No way could Barney do what’s best for basketball and put his ego aside. Not anymore. He’s had too many sour moments to continue on. It all clouds his judgement. I think too he’s weak and wouldn’t poach another SEC teams coach. There’s way too much baggage for this guy to make rational decisions. UK fans knew it before cal that Barney couldn’t make the next hire. It was discussed ad nauseam here. Thats why I’m confounded by many fans who don’t care about popes lack of cred for the job any longer


Lol there are no more “slime bags”. The ncaa has laxed so much it doesn’t matter. And idk how old you are but our 3 most recent titles and success was brought to you by the biggest “slime bags” in the business. (sans tubby who won with slime bags players then mr nice guy couldn’t get it done). Every successful coach gets labeled if pearl were at UK you would love him just like Rick just like cal. I can’t think of a successful top 5 program that wasn’t run by a “slime bag” in some form. They’re human beings get over it

Here is a question. Who are some coaches who win consistently that are nice guys? In like the last 10 years? Hurley? By all accounts a vile person? Roy Williams? Bill self? Answer there are none.
Thank you Wildcats1st for these spot on post.
Mitch Barnhart is a bad AD, end of story. Hired Gillespie when we could have hired Cal then or Pitino back even. Hired Joker (alumni hire, because those work). Hired Elsey for womens bb. Gave Cal and Mark stoops absurd contracts. Hired Pope when there were many other coaches that should have been ahead resume wise. Hope it works out, if it does ... it was a big risk really and luck.

I tend to think with the way cbb is, probably 90% of Auburns team would have followed Bruce to Kentucky much like our team and recruits all followed Calipari to Arkansas.

I'm not sure what this thread is about honestly lol... all i know is I have not agreed with many of Mitch Barnhart hires.
 
And we didn’t talk to him. He basically begged for the job.

I love mark pope but hiring a coach who has never won an ncaa tournament game versus hiring a proven final four guy foaming at the month for validation is insane.

Still gonna ride pope but he was the hire in 10 years. Pearl was the guy we should’ve got today.
Not in his 1st year he wouldn't. His 1st 3 years at Auburn, he had a losing record. He's this good now in his 11th year at Auburn. He's been past the round of 32 ONCE at Auburn.

Pope's first year here craps all over Pearl's 1st year at Auburn.
 
And we didn’t talk to him. He basically begged for the job.

I love mark pope but hiring a coach who has never won an ncaa tournament game versus hiring a proven final four guy foaming at the month for validation is insane.

Still gonna ride pope but he was the hire in 10 years. Pearl was the guy we should’ve got today.
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Pearl would not have us #1 with half his starters out lol
I was going to say that. In the same situation he would not.

But if Pearl brought all those players with him he might?

Pearl is a damn fine coach. I would be good with him at UK but it will never happen.

We have a great coach. We will be back next year. These teams are right to pile on us now. We have kicked their asses for a century.

And they see we’re coming. 🏀

Last night was just what it was. A good ole fashioned ass whoopin and an embarrassment.


Let it be fuel
 
Thank you Wildcats1st for these spot on post.
Mitch Barnhart is a bad AD, end of story. Hired Gillespie when we could have hired Cal then or Pitino back even. Hired Joker (alumni hire, because those work). Hired Elsey for womens bb. Gave Cal and Mark stoops absurd contracts. Hired Pope when there were many other coaches that should have been ahead resume wise. Hope it works out, if it does ... it was a big risk really and luck.

I tend to think with the way cbb is, probably 90% of Auburns team would have followed Bruce to Kentucky much like our team and recruits all followed Calipari to Arkansas.

I'm not sure what this thread is about honestly lol... all i know is I have not agreed with many of Mitch Barnhart hires.
Lmao. Wildcats first, using an alias that he likes to keep, is the biggest clown poster on this board. Hes not a UK fan and you are falling for his schtict of making UK fans angry. LMAO at this here internet.
 
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Go watch Chad Baker-Mazara play. He’s the type of player Pearl gets. Always a team with total punks. KD Johnson was a loud mouth loser for the past several years. Pearl loved him. Players are a reflection of their coach i.e. Pearl is a loud mouth with a past of his own. I’ll roll with who we have and know the future is bright. Triple C left the cupboard bare. Pope and UK basketball will be just fine.
You’re right. Pope will be fine. But I’d love to have had Pearl and the type of players he gets. I prefer those type of players.
 
Pope did not merely "play here". He was the captain and leader of maybe the greatest team in UK basketball history--as a transfer--and they won the national championship. He is the right age, with impeccable character and a brilliant mind and the perfect temperament for this unique job; and he has worked tirelessly to succeed his entire life.

The resources at UK, from the amazing fanbase and tradition to the facilities and the commitment from the administration, create a one of a kind environment for a quality coach to produce championships, e.g., Joe B. Hall, who succeeded Rupp because of his connection to the program and not his "resume". Unfortunately, since Coach Hall, there have been several with the "resume" to succeed but whose character was less than stellar or who became lazy and/or belittled the fanbase. Mark Pope is unburdened by those weaknesses and his priorities are pure. He is all about the program, not the other way around.
Championship players don’t necessarily make good coaches neither do captains. I think pope is a decent coach his resume is ok but no playing history, being captain is meaningless as a coach. The best coaches were 3rd rate players. Not guys who led their teams. Think about it. And yeah pope is a great person but this isn’t a nice guys game and UK basketball requires an asshole at times to gain advantage. His temperament is way too passive. He’s our coach and we have to stand behind him but mark pope has the weakest resume of any coach ever hired by UK basketball bar none. I hope he proves me wrong but I think if pope can assemble a projected title contender we will all be very disappointed because uk isn’t where you go to learn to coach unless it’s as an assistant.

Pearl, Oates, Barnes, golden these are the best coaches in the sec. I don’t know any of their playing background but I don’t think any of those guys were captains or title teams, never played for a program like UK. I mean the considered great ratface was meh at West Point. UK bb has been successful based on a pattern. The pattern is hiring elite successful hungry coaches. Pope only fits one of those 3 criteria. We need to get Barney out and get back to the formula. I’d love a former player to be very successful and win a title. More than anyone I’d love it but Barney wants to put his imprint on uk bb. Lol he’s leaving his imprint alright. It’s a big dent. We needed a 3-5 year hungry stop gap coach because I already named two who should have become coach at uk far before pope. Bottomline. Nate oates was built to coach UK. But watch he will end up at KU or UCLA. He was the guy.

Pope was hired because he played for uk. He knows that. Most fans had no clue he was the captain. I mean captains in bb aren’t the same as hockey or soccer. I see a lot of fake it til you make it going on.

With all that said I would much rather cheer a former player on than cal. But a massive opportunity to put us back to the top 5 annually was blown by an AD who wants a title with his mark on it even if it risks becoming a mediocre program in the process.

And btw. Who are our current captains? I have no idea? Are they playing or injured? How many can tell us without google?
 
We hired cal and rick. They're two of the biggest.

Maybe Pope is better long term but its surprising people can't at least admit Pearl would be better short term. All because they like pope because he played here.

I really like him too, but lets be honest - had he not played here, his resume doesn't get a sniff at this job.
Like, most everything in life, "it ain't what you know, but who you know"
 
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We had to pay MARK POPE 27.5 million dollars (Which is less than it would have taken to hire Pearl) with 75% guaranteed no matter what happens to get a coach who had never won a tournament game in his career and some of y'all are so delusional you think Bruce Pearl would have taken this job. Folks, Bruce Pearl was not the only coach who was not even on our list because we have zero shot at landing him. And you guys are going to lose the patience you have shown so far with Pope far before it will be feasible for the University to fire him, and if they do fire him, we're going to be dealing with the same exact problem we faced when trying to replace Calipari (and indeed why Calipari left) when looking to replace Pope. It boils down to the inability to attract big time players.

This is our new reality. Some of you might never figure this out because you are so skilled in the art of self-delusion there's no room for any possibility that any of this is true.
 
I like Pearl, but I suggested Pope before his name was mentioned in the search. Barring the injuries imo they would be one of the favorites for the title this year. If Butler is ok and Carr's back holds up and no one else gets hurt, they still might make a good run this year.
 
Championship players don’t necessarily make good coaches neither do captains. I think pope is a decent coach his resume is ok but no playing history, being captain is meaningless as a coach. The best coaches were 3rd rate players. Not guys who led their teams. Think about it. And yeah pope is a great person but this isn’t a nice guys game and UK basketball requires an asshole at times to gain advantage. His temperament is way too passive. He’s our coach and we have to stand behind him but mark pope has the weakest resume of any coach ever hired by UK basketball bar none. I hope he proves me wrong but I think if pope can assemble a projected title contender we will all be very disappointed because uk isn’t where you go to learn to coach unless it’s as an assistant.

Pearl, Oates, Barnes, golden these are the best coaches in the sec. I don’t know any of their playing background but I don’t think any of those guys were captains or title teams, never played for a program like UK. I mean the considered great ratface was meh at West Point. UK bb has been successful based on a pattern. The pattern is hiring elite successful hungry coaches. Pope only fits one of those 3 criteria. We need to get Barney out and get back to the formula. I’d love a former player to be very successful and win a title. More than anyone I’d love it but Barney wants to put his imprint on uk bb. Lol he’s leaving his imprint alright. It’s a big dent. We needed a 3-5 year hungry stop gap coach because I already named two who should have become coach at uk far before pope. Bottomline. Nate oates was built to coach UK. But watch he will end up at KU or UCLA. He was the guy.

Pope was hired because he played for uk. He knows that. Most fans had no clue he was the captain. I mean captains in bb aren’t the same as hockey or soccer. I see a lot of fake it til you make it going on.

With all that said I would much rather cheer a former player on than cal. But a massive opportunity to put us back to the top 5 annually was blown by an AD who wants a title with his mark on it even if it risks becoming a mediocre program in the process.

And btw. Who are our current captains? I have no idea? Are they playing or injured? How many can tell us without google?
EXACTLY , well said. I see myself being pretty upset in 5 to 10 years when nate oats is at UCLA or UNC and has them as a monster, or Chris Beard is at Indiana doing great.... but Indiana is where they are now because they made bad hire after bad hire that everybody saw as questionable hires except for the people in charge. Bruce Pearl is old, but the idea was like you said a stop gap hire. Golden will probably be very sought after in a few years.
 
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People don't want to admit it, but Nate Oats was actually the premium hire for UK.

Barnhart didn't want to get embarrassed in the outside chance Oats said "no" (and Mitch has always been reluctant to hire guys with sketchy associations - i.e., the Brandon Miller drama), so he went with the safe, for-sure "yes" in Mark Pope.

Pope is a great hire, and looking back I give the hire an A-, but Oats was absolutely the elite hire we could have conceivably made.
 
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