Briscoe on KSR this morning

[SilentsAreGolden]

He was a great guest. Very honest and funny. How had I not heard that he is Kyrie Irving's cousin? He said Duke was recruiting him when he was a freshman but stopped. Given the Irving connection, he might just have gone there if they didn't stop recruiting him.

Also said that the slap on KeVaughn Allen for Florida was not intentional. Said that's his boy. Never considered a junior season, Cal took away his mouthpiece, and he wasn't aware of any of the stuff with Marshall's wife yelling at him for his shorts.

 

[CatColumbia]

He was a great guest. Very honest and funny. How had I not heard that he is Kyrie Irving's cousin? He said Duke was recruiting him when he was a freshman but stopped. Given the Irving connection, he might just have gone there if they didn't stop recruiting him.

Also said that the slap on KeVaughn Allen for Florida was not intentional. Said that's his boy. Never considered a junior season, Cal took away his mouthpiece, and he wasn't aware of any of the stuff with Marshall's wife yelling at him for his shorts.

Interesting that he never considered a junior season.. Just re-affirms that when players are set on being being a one and done or two and done at most, that really is the case.

 

[KA4Prez]

Comments like "never considered a Junior season" should play over and over on repeat for those who constantly want to quote mock drafts as justification as to why a player is ready to leave school. In reality, I'd bet it's only a small piece for consideration.

I know if I could go make 6 figures doing something I loved, with a network like Kentucky basketball/John Calipari as a fallback plan, it would be hard to pass up. Not everyone thinks with the perspective of "millions", especially if they come from bad situations.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

Ramel Bradley is on now if anyone is interested.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

Comments like "never considered a Junior season" should play over and over on repeat for those who constantly want to quote mock drafts as justification as to why a player is ready to leave school. In reality, I'd bet it's only a small piece for consideration.

I know if I could go make 6 figures doing something I loved, with a network like Kentucky basketball/John Calipari as a fallback plan, it would be hard to pass up. Not everyone thinks with the perspective of "millions", especially if they come from bad situations.

That's if he gets an overseas spot in a good league. Don't they only have a select amount of roster spots for Americans?

The NBADL salary is the same amount of money you would get working in the mall.

 

[madison1329]

I loved the mouthpiece. Too bad.

 

[KA4Prez]

That's if he gets an overseas spot in a good league. Don't they only have a select amount of roster spots for Americans?

The NBADL salary is the same amount of money you would get working in the mall.

There are hundreds of leagues and many of them pay well. Briscoe can run point and compare physically to guards in any overseas league. He might not have a niche skill set good enough to fit in the NBA, but he does for an overseas league.

If he's in the D-League, it probably means he's got a path to an NBA contract. We will see.

 

[WildMoon]

That's if he gets an overseas spot in a good league. Don't they only have a select amount of roster spots for Americans?

The NBADL salary is the same amount of money you would get working in the mall.

Working in the mall?

they make 75,000 and 100,000 for working in the mall?

 

[BBUK]

That's if he gets an overseas spot in a good league. Don't they only have a select amount of roster spots for Americans?

The NBADL salary is the same amount of money you would get working in the mall.

I guess if you are the worst of the worst (referring to the above but the possibilities for payoff are there.) but I found the below from a google search just to satisfy my curiosity;

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242860/d-league-increases-salaries-for-16-17-season


"For the past couple seasons the salary structure in place for the D-League has consisted of tiers. There were three tiers of salaries: $13,000 (C), $19,000 (B) and $25,500 (A) and each team had a salary cap of $173,000 on top of that.

For the 16-17 D-League season, there will only be two tiers for salaries as the “C” has been eliminated. The new salary levels will be $19,500 (B-Level) and $26,000 (A-Level) and the salary cap will rise to $209,000.

Adam Silver and D-League commissioner Malcolm Turner have been working in conjunction to build the league to 30 teams and when that point comes, there is a belief that salaries could be tripled to remain competitive.

D-League call ups made nearly $5 million in salary last season so the chance for a payoff is present."

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

Working in the mall?

they make 75,000 and 100,000 for working in the mall?

Like it has been mentioned, they don't make that kind of money and they get a super small per diem as well.

http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/1063/d-league-showcase-tips-off-in-reno

This is from a few years ago so they have improved a tad but you get the idea.

Salaries remain flat: $25,500, $19,000 and $13,000 for the league's three player classifications, which means D-League players are virtually playing for free -- and a modest per diem on the road of $40 compared to $120 in the NBA -- although they do receive housing and insurance benefits.

 

[WildMoon]

Like it has been mentioned, they don't make that kind of money and they get a super small per diem as well.

http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/1063/d-league-showcase-tips-off-in-reno

This is from a few years ago so they have improved a tad but you get the idea.

Salaries remain flat: $25,500, $19,000 and $13,000 for the league's three player classifications, which means D-League players are virtually playing for free -- and a modest per diem on the road of $40 compared to $120 in the NBA -- although they do receive housing and insurance benefits.

they are going to 75k to 100k...

EDIT: okay maybe its 50-75k. But it's gradually increasing.

 

[d2atTech]

There are hundreds of leagues and many of them pay well. Briscoe can run point and compare physically to guards in any overseas league. He might not have a niche skill set good enough to fit in the NBA, but he does for an overseas league.

If he's in the D-League, it probably means he's got a path to an NBA contract. We will see.

if briscoe were four inches taller, he would be the next draymond green.

 

[BBUK]

Working in the mall?

they make 75,000 and 100,000 for working in the mall?

New minimum wage...

 

[BengalWACO]

Would rather play ball for 13k than work in the mall for 30 k

 

[kydmb99]

If the D-League gets to 75k salaries and 30 teams, college basketball is done

 

[WildMoon]

If the D-League gets to 75k salaries and 30 teams, college basketball is done

Not really, it'll just help UK. To be honest.

 

[kydmb99]

Not really, it'll just help UK. To be honest.

Struggling to see how this is the case. If you think the talent pool in college basketball is depleted today, wait until just "above average" players have the possibility of playing in the D-League for 50k a year. No one who has any talent is going to play college basketball.

 

[WildMoon]

Struggling to see how this is the case. If you think the talent pool in college basketball is depleted today, wait until just "above average" players have the possibility of playing in the D-League for 50k a year. No one who has any talent is going to play college basketball.

because the OAD rule still exist.

We will still get top talent. They aren't skipping college, because they can't.

We already have truly high TO rate, all this is going to do is nothing more than other team dealing with what we are dealing with.

While we might lose 1 more a season, our system is already adapted to high turnover. Teams thats losing 2-3 players annually, all of sudden will lose 4-5 could cause havoc.

Improving D-league will impact not the top end NBA talent, but mid level talent who might make it to NBA.

 

[kb22stang]

Struggling to see how this is the case. If you think the talent pool in college basketball is depleted today, wait until just "above average" players have the possibility of playing in the D-League for 50k a year. No one who has any talent is going to play college basketball.

And then we go back to having student athletes.

 

[kydmb99]

because the OAD rule still exist.

We will still get top talent. They aren't skipping college, because they can't.

We already have truly high TO rate, all this is going to do is nothing more than other team dealing with what we are dealing with.

While we might lose 1 more a season, our system is already adapted to high turnover. Teams thats losing 2-3 players annually, all of sudden will lose 4-5 could cause havoc.

Improving D-league will impact not the top end NBA talent, but mid level talent who might make it to NBA.

Kids are able to play in the d-league straight out of high school, they just can't be drafted until they are 19. They go the college route because the pay is so bad in the D-League and because of the exposure they get playing in college. If they can make a decent living in the D-League straight out of high school, that's what they'll do. They don't want to play in college. Also, we desperately need returning NBA fringe type players in order to win a championship. No way any of them stick around if they can play in the D-League for $50-75k a year.

 

[poppycat]

Interesting that .........................he never considered a junior season................................... Just re-affirms that when players are set on being being a one and done or two and done at most, that really is the case.

And like so many , education is not an option.......
What happens if no pro ball or after pro ball..
Might become a real Mickey Dee for life.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

Would rather play ball for 13k than work in the mall for 30 k

Understandable but you have to pay bills and rent and food and for a car. I don't think $13k covers that much.

 

[BostonCat2001]

That's if he gets an overseas spot in a good league. Don't they only have a select amount of roster spots for Americans?

The NBADL salary is the same amount of money you would get working in the mall.

which is probably the same as whatever garbage degree he was going to get would earn him.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

which is probably the same as whatever garbage degree he was going to get would earn him.

Kentucky players can get BS cush jobs though so maybe if the pros don't work out, he can go that route.

 

[Hoskins91]

And like so many , education is not an option.......
What happens if no pro ball or after pro ball..
Might become a real Mickey Dee for life.

He can come back if he wants. He's got a lifetime scholarship.

 

[Smashcat]

Ramel Bradley is on now if anyone is interested.

Heard a bit of that. good guy.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Kentucky players can get BS cush jobs though so maybe if the pros don't work out, he can go that route.

they can? uk isnt duke or nd. only so many car dealerships in lexington....

 

[Lovebaskelball]

NBA teams will have two new roster spots designated as “two-way contracts.” These slots will enable NBA teams to shuttle players back and forth between the D-League and the NBA. These “two-way contracts” differentiate the pay to be received by these players depending on whether they are in the NBA or D-League. If they’re in the NBA, they’re paid the standard NBA minimum salary (or whatever is otherwise negotiated). Yet if they’re in the D-League, they only receive a seasonal salary of $50,000 to $75,000.

A two-way player would make about $25,000 to $50,000 more than D-League contracted players (whose salary remain dictated by the D-League’s set up - ranging from $19,000 to $26,000). A negative is that the "two-way" player is stuck with a particular team and is not auditioning for the entire league. He could be having a great G league campaign and be stuck making $50,000 while a lesser G league player not on a "two-way contract" could get a call up and make more money.

10 day contracts are going from $31,969 (0 years) to $47,977 and (1 year exp) $51,449 to $77,212, etc. So the "two-way" contract can be good and bad.

So with 2 spots per team, that is 60 new jobs but with restrictions on players and teams retain their rights for peanuts.

 

[WildMoon]

Kids are able to play in the d-league straight out of high school, they just can't be drafted until they are 19. They go the college route because the pay is so bad in the D-League and because of the exposure they get playing in college. If they can make a decent living in the D-League straight out of high school, that's what they'll do. They don't want to play in college. Also, we desperately need returning NBA fringe type players in order to win a championship. No way any of them stick around if they can play in the D-League for $50-75k a year.

ohhh i did not know that.

however.. 50 - 75k wouldn't change much on that end.

 

[Lovebaskelball]

Kids are able to play in the d-league straight out of high school, they just can't be drafted until they are 19. They go the college route because the pay is so bad in the D-League and because of the exposure they get playing in college. If they can make a decent living in the D-League straight out of high school, that's what they'll do. They don't want to play in college. Also, we desperately need returning NBA fringe type players in order to win a championship. No way any of them stick around if they can play in the D-League for $50-75k a year.

They can not make $50-75K a year in the G league unless they are on a NBA 2-way contract. So they will make $19-26K.

 

[d2atTech]

If the D-League gets to 75k salaries and 30 teams, college basketball is done

and they should. we will be happy winning more championships with 3 - 4 year players, and studs like briscoe can actually make a living doing what they have to otherwise do for free. the nba should stop using the ncaa as a free development league.

 

[3 fan]

Rumor is that Briscoe has dropped out of school. Just finish the semester please

 

[poppycat]

He can come back if he wants. He's got a lifetime scholarship.

That I know, but my point was, some kids are just
interested in work for a degree, IB mentioned that
Duke was recruiting him and dropped out.
May have sensed that IB had no interest but BB.

 

[fearthebluecat]

if briscoe were four inches taller, he would be the next draymond green.

well maybe 5 inchs

 

[mj2k10]

and they should. we will be happy winning more championships with 3 - 4 year players, and studs like briscoe can actually make a living doing what they have to otherwise do for free. the nba should stop using the ncaa as a free development league.

There's a reason why college baseball has never been a very big deal, while college basketball and football have been.
Kid yourself all you want, but if college basketball starts losing 30 guys after one year as opposed to a dozen or so, and if it becomes common for good sophomores who have little chance of being drafted to chuck college for the minor leagues, college basketball will start to fade. It already is fading to a certain extent.

And if guys didn't have to go to college at all, and had the option of making a decent salary in a minor league? Forget it. 70-80% of top 50 recruits would never see a college campus. College basketball would become an afterthought. People want to see the best, not the "good but not elite".

 

[RDCat07]

Rumor is that Briscoe has dropped out of school. Just finish the semester please

correct me if i am wrong but isn't danial orton the only kid to do that and cal and the basketball program basically shun the guy. I have heard cal say several times in the past that he expects them to finish the semester

 

[3rex]

if briscoe were four inches taller, he would be the next draymond green.

 

[d2atTech]

There's a reason why college baseball has never been a very big deal, while college basketball and football have been.
Kid yourself all you want, but if college basketball starts losing 30 guys after one year as opposed to a dozen or so, and if it becomes common for good sophomores who have little chance of being drafted to chuck college for the minor leagues, college basketball will start to fade. It already is fading to a certain extent.

And if guys didn't have to go to college at all, and had the option of making a decent salary in a minor league? Forget it. 70-80% of top 50 recruits would never see a college campus. College basketball would become an afterthought. People want to see the best, not the "good but not elite".

but this is neither in the college's or the player's interests. the current system only benefits the nba.

 

[king of cali]

Only "two way players" will be making the $50-75,000, it is not league wide. The salaries will still range from $19-26,000.