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Brad White and Wake Forest

Readng articles about the job and I saw about 9 bigger names rumored for it

I like White. I'm afraid if he wants an P4 hc job, even Wake Forest, he needs to move to a bigger school as dc or slum at the worst G5 first.
 
From reading their 247 board sounds like White may be on their short list.
That is if their other options fall through. I don’t know if he would want that job even if it his Alma Mater. Especially if the ACC is picked apart like the transfer portal and the bigger teams jump to the SEC and Big10
 
Yep and let NC take Vince!
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Readng articles about the job and I saw about 9 bigger names rumored for it

I like White. I'm afraid if he wants an P4 hc job, even Wake Forest, he needs to move to a bigger school as dc or slum at the worst G5 first.
Name them please. None of the names that I have seen make more sense specifically for Wake and that prospective coach than White does.
 
Name them please. None of the names that I have seen make more sense specifically for Wake and that prospective coach than White does.
Head coach of Toledo
Head coach of Air Force
Head coach of Liberty
Head coach of James Madison
Neal Brown
Head coach of Western Kentucky
Head coach of Washington State
Garrett Riley, Offensive coordinator at Clemson
 
Head coach of Toledo
Head coach of Air Force
Head coach of Liberty
Head coach of James Madison
Neal Brown
Head coach of Western Kentucky
Head coach of Washington State
Garrett Riley, Offensive coordinator at Clemson
These titles aren't names. Not even naming them says all we need to know. But I do see this list came from one guy on Athlon Sports, who also included Brad White as one of his "potential 10".

Neal Brown: Really? I like him as a person and all, but he's not the right hire when he was just fired at WVU.

Garrett Riley: He's only 35. I don't know what makes him a bigger name or better hire for Wake Forest than an alum with 5-years of experience as an SEC coordinator?

Wake Forest is a program that values stability over the coach who wants a stepping stone. Where is the "fit" for anybody other than Brad White? That would probably be his forever job if he had any success.
 
Was wondering when the WKU guy and Wash St were going to start pinging on radars.

Good hire by Wake.

Would keep an eye on him. If he gets them to bowl caliber or better, he's going to be a guy to look at. Same for WKU dude. I suspect he's going to get some more calls, if he does well at his next stop, go ahead and get his contact information as well for the rolodex.

Also, once again, the legend of Stoops and staff greatly overexaggerated.
 
This is where it should be noted that Dickert is Currie’s first football coach hire at Wake Forest. He started at his alma mater in spring of 2019; in his previous athletics director role, he was fired at Tennessee amid a publicly disastrous football coaching search.

When he was fired from the post at Tennessee, he was reportedly lining up then-Washington State coach Mike Leach to be the Vols’ next coach.


https://wakeforest.rivals.com/news/wake-forest-to-hire-jake-dickert

Lol, I forgot that he was the guy behind the Tennessee debacle.
 
Was wondering when the WKU guy and Wash St were going to start pinging on radars.

Good hire by Wake.

Would keep an eye on him. If he gets them to bowl caliber or better, he's going to be a guy to look at. Same for WKU dude. I suspect he's going to get some more calls, if he does well at his next stop, go ahead and get his contact information as well for the rolodex.

Also, once again, the legend of Stoops and staff greatly overexaggerated.
LOL, get pissed if a UK coach is considered, get pissed if coach not hired.
 
Was wondering when the WKU guy and Wash St were going to start pinging on radars.

Good hire by Wake.

Would keep an eye on him. If he gets them to bowl caliber or better, he's going to be a guy to look at. Same for WKU dude. I suspect he's going to get some more calls, if he does well at his next stop, go ahead and get his contact information as well for the rolodex.

Also, once again, the legend of Stoops and staff greatly overexaggerated.
I disagree that it was a good hire. If you're going to hire a guy from a mid-major, you might as well get one of the better ones. This dude just ended his season with 3 straight losses:

5-7 New Mexico State
5-7 Oregon State
3-9 Wyoming

Just a weird hire imo.
 
Readng articles about the job and I saw about 9 bigger names rumored for it I like White. I'm afraid if he wants an P4 hc job, even Wake Forest, he needs to move to a bigger school as dc or slum at the worst G5 first.
This is where it should be noted that Dickert is Currie’s first football coach hire at Wake Forest. He started at his alma mater in spring of 2019; in his previous athletics director role, he was fired at Tennessee amid a publicly disastrous football coaching search.

When he was fired from the post at Tennessee, he was reportedly lining up then-Washington State coach Mike Leach to be the Vols’ next coach.


https://wakeforest.rivals.com/news/wake-forest-to-hire-jake-dickert

Lol, I forgot that he was the guy behind the Tennessee debacle.
see how real teams in the SEC treat ADs for mistakes in the football program. UK could learn something but they won’t
 
I disagree that it was a good hire. If you're going to hire a guy from a mid-major, you might as well get one of the better ones. This dude just ended his season with 3 straight losses:

5-7 New Mexico State
5-7 Oregon State
3-9 Wyoming

Just a weird hire imo.
I wonder if they share the same agent?

Texas A&M fans were calling this out around the Stoops saga last year: When there's smoke, follow the agents
 
These titles aren't names. Not even naming them says all we need to know. But I do see this list came from one guy on Athlon Sports, who also included Brad White as one of his "potential 10".

Neal Brown: Really? I like him as a person and all, but he's not the right hire when he was just fired at WVU.

Garrett Riley: He's only 35. I don't know what makes him a bigger name or better hire for Wake Forest than an alum with 5-years of experience as an SEC coordinator?

Wake Forest is a program that values stability over the coach who wants a stepping stone. Where is the "fit" for anybody other than Brad White? That would probably be his forever job if he had any success.
I was right.
You were wrong.
 
I disagree that it was a good hire. If you're going to hire a guy from a mid-major, you might as well get one of the better ones. This dude just ended his season with 3 straight losses:

5-7 New Mexico State
5-7 Oregon State
3-9 Wyoming

Just a weird hire imo.

Folks we're not talking about Ohio State here.

It's Wake Forest. He won 8 games this season. At 41, he is clearly not even near his coaching prime but seemingly on the upswing.

Programs like Wake and ours among others don't get first pick of cream of the crop. They hope to catch a guy with potential before he pops and bigger, better schools start to pay attention.
LOL, get pissed if a UK coach is considered, get pissed if coach not hired.

No where did I remotely indicate anger. I don't care if UK coaches get hired away or not.

Just making an observation after multiples seasons in which there is a lot of hub bub about UK staff. Lot of talking about staff being highly sought after...lots of openings every year that ultimately select other candidates.

I'm not even saying it won't happen as it is inevitable at this point seeing how things are trending. Hope for the best, but I think the way things are trending next season or two could see a lot of turnover and staff ending up elsewhere. So I suppose in that instance you could view coaches fleeing or being told to flee as being "hired away"
 
I disagree that it was a good hire. If you're going to hire a guy from a mid-major, you might as well get one of the better ones. This dude just ended his season with 3 straight losses:

5-7 New Mexico State
5-7 Oregon State
3-9 Wyoming

Just a weird hire imo.
Washington St. isn't really a mid-major but I don’t know if this a great hire anyway. No ties to the South that I can see.
 
Folks we're not talking about Ohio State here.

It's Wake Forest. He won 8 games this season. At 41, he is clearly not even near his coaching prime but seemingly on the upswing.

Programs like Wake and ours among others don't get first pick of cream of the crop. They hope to catch a guy with potential before he pops and bigger, better schools start to pay attention.
And this is precisely why White should have been in contention for the job. There is no obvious fit to the hire they made. No connections to the South or the east coast. NONE. The closest he has ever come to coaching in North Carolina was a 1-year stint at Southeast Missouri St.

It's very odd, but the AD has already shown that he doesn't know what he's doing in regards to football and that's what got him fired at Tennessee.
 
Washington St. isn't really a mid-major but I don’t know if this a great hire anyway. No ties to the South that I can see.
How are they not a mid major? They went 15-16/9-13 under him when they were in the PAC12 and they went 8-4 under him when they played a MWC schedule. They are now 100% a mid-major now. They are not in any of the Power 4 conferences.
 
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Folks we're not talking about Ohio State here.

It's Wake Forest. He won 8 games this season. At 41, he is clearly not even near his coaching prime but seemingly on the upswing.

Programs like Wake and ours among others don't get first pick of cream of the crop. They hope to catch a guy with potential before he pops and bigger, better schools start to pay attention.
Totally understand we aren't talking about Ohio State here. My point is, if you're going to hire a coach from a G5 school, there are a lot better options than him imo. I would have gone after a guy like Jamey Chadwell. Deep roots in the south (which the Wazoo guy doesn't have) and success at multiple levels.
 
Totally understand we aren't talking about Ohio State here. My point is, if you're going to hire a coach from a G5 school, there are a lot better options than him imo. I would have gone after a guy like Jamey Chadwell. Deep roots in the south (which the Wazoo guy doesn't have) and success at multiple levels.
Think Chadwell may have some NCAA baggage altho nowadays guys wear it as a badge of courage.
 
And this is precisely why White should have been in contention for the job. There is no obvious fit to the hire they made. No connections to the South or the east coast. NONE. The closest he has ever come to coaching in North Carolina was a 1-year stint at Southeast Missouri St.

It's very odd, but the AD has already shown that he doesn't know what he's doing in regards to football and that's what got him fired at Tennessee.
Not sure territorial connections are key anymore in the modern era.

West of the Mississippi/ West Coast/Mountain West/PNW is hot right now.

Deboer, Sark, Kiffen, Drink had a stint at Boise, ASU guy will be getting looks. Prime Time could have any job. Hueple dabbled around out west. Barry Odom went west, learned the ways of that brand/style/culture whatever you want to call it hit a lick and now got em a big 10 gig. Michigan State hired Oregon State coach.

Totally understand we aren't talking about Ohio State here. My point is, if you're going to hire a coach from a G5 school, there are a lot better options than him imo. I would have gone after a guy like Jamey Chadwell. Deep roots in the south (which the Wazoo guy doesn't have) and success at multiple levels.

Yeah I agree that other names seemingly would have been better. But then again Aggies thought pretty well decorated NC winning coach Jimbo would’ve worked.

Texas thought formerly highly coveted coordinator and successful at UL Charlie Strong would’ve worked.

List of guys who should’ve worked based on resume, experience, accomplishments but ultimately didn’t pan out is probably just as long as under the radar surprise hires that didn’t.

Same goes for the other side of that coin. Lot of obviously qualified excellent hires working, lots of “didn’t see that coming” type guys working out as well.
 
How are they not a mid major? They went 15-16/9-13 under him when they were in the PAC12 and they went 8-4 under him when they played a MWC schedule. They are now 100% a mid-major now. They are not in any of the Power 4 conferences.
Because they're still major state school with accompanying resources and a power school history. They were left out of a game of musical chairs, so they're now technically midmajor, which is not "really" a midmajor. Did Dickert take a pay cut when they left the P4?
 
Because they're still major state school with accompanying resources and a power school history. They were left out of a game of musical chairs, so they're now technically midmajor, which is not "really" a midmajor. Did Dickert take a pay cut when they left the P4?
It doesn’t matter what resources they had before. They will longer have those resources because they won’t have a TV deal. They are basically Colorado State now.

Dickert didn’t take a pay cut because he was under contract, but truth be told, he was only making $2.7 million to begin with. But now that the job is open, it will not be looked at as a P4 job. It will be looked at as a G5 job. They will pay G5 money…I suspect they won’t match that $2.7 million, which was pretty low for P5 to begin with.

Fact is, they played a MWC schedule this year and they and Oregon State are combining with the MWC to remain a G5 school. Starting this year, they were a mid major and will continue to be one.
 
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