ADVERTISEMENT

Bourbon: What are you sipping on?

Took these photos today at the urging of our home insurance agent, and thought I'd share. Adding 4 more to the collection tomorrow (Lock, Stock & Barrel 13-year Rye, 2 Calumet Farms bourbons, and 1 Fighting Cock), and waiting on a Larue Weller to arrive sometime next week. LQ owner told me today he could get me a Michter's 20-year, but at $450 I think I'll hold off.



TheDude73's Whiskey Collection
 
Originally posted by John Barleycorn:
Michters was the same price here in KY. I haven't had it but have been told it was pretty good. $400 good, I'm not sure...
Posted from Rivals Mobile
Yeah, I mean if you can get a Pappy 23 it's only ~$240 in the shop. Not sure how Michter's can justify nearly twice that for a 20-year. I'd rather spend that $400 on a black-market Ocean, Larue, Four Roses 125th, or something a bit more rare.

BTW, I went ahead and cleaned out 2 other LQs here of their only 2-each Blowhards. Wife is picking up the last 2 on her way home and I'll have 6 bottles (1 opened for sipping). Seems each shop in Denver only got 2 of each Blowhard and Barterhouse, and since no one knew about them, I was able to swoop in and snag them all. Will sit on those for a while, probably keep a bottle or two, and see if the others can pull some type of return aftermarket (like Bottlespot.com) or perhaps use them to trade for something a bit more old and rare.

Or, I just keep all 6 bottles...

Also now have 3 Barterhouse's. One I'll open this weekend (birthday weekend). The other 2 I'll hide away.

There are already a couple of bottles of Blowhard and Barterhouse showing up on Craigslist and bottlespot for $300-$600 each. Not sure if they'll get that yet, but Maxim did run an article on these one-time releases last week. That's how Pappy got their push into ridiculous demand.
 
A friend of mine got me a bottle of Noah's Mill. It's delicious. I don't think I'll use it as a staple at $50/bottle, but I'll definitely be getting more in the future.

http://sourmashmanifesto.com/2012/06/11/review-noahs-mill-bourbon/
 
This will be the only time blowhard and Barterhouse will be released. Period.

There might be some that pop up in the next month or so but after that, the bottles will be out if circulation.

There is a third in the series, Rhetoric, coming out in May. It's a 20yr. It will get released every year. Next yr will be a 21, 2016 will be a 22yr, etc.

My guess is those blowhards are going to get WAY more valuable.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 
Originally posted by John Barleycorn:
This will be the only time blowhard and Barterhouse will be released. Period.

There might be some that pop up in the next month or so but after that, the bottles will be out if circulation.

There is a third in the series, Rhetoric, coming out in May. It's a 20yr. It will get released every year. Next yr will be a 21, 2016 will be a 22yr, etc.

My guess is those blowhards are going to get WAY more valuable.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
Well, I've been against buying to sell later on, but I went ahead and did it this time with the intention on trading for something rather than selling for cash. I'll still keep 3 of the 6 Blowhards and 2 of the 3 Barterhouses. In fact, the shop still has 3 Barterhouses left, so I may go ahead and grab those as well.

I've heard about the Rhetoric and Strongbox coming out this year - will certainly add those to my collection as well.

Oh, I was able to secure a bottle of Ocean for just $125 from a shop in NJ. He also threw in Jefferson's Chef Collaboration at a discounted rate, so I should see those next week.
 
The collab is interesting. Blend of rye and bourbon. Made for new age Asian, Cajun, and Latin food. Some rye spice but not overpowering.

Went to the launch. It was paired with a variety of Asian and Latin appetizers. Went well for whiskey with food.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 
Originally posted by TheDude73:

I've only been in there once as it's 30 miles south of me here in Longmont. But we do have a place here I just visited called PJ's - guy has quite a bit of stuff. In fact, today I stopped by and found the following catch (including two bottles of Old Blowhard and Stagg Jr. - which makes my 2nd bottle of Stagg). He has 8 bottles of Stagg Jr. on the shelves, along with 4 EH Taylor collection - Straight Rye, Single Barrel, Barrel Strength, and Small Batch. In addition to those in the photo below I grabbed the EHT Rye and Single Barrel (already have Barrel Strength and Small Batch).

Given the tightness of anything Stagg, I may go back and grab a couple more for under the bar.

Applejacks down in Arvada is a good one, too, but only because my in-laws have lived down there for 25 years and know everyone, so they can sometimes get an "in" on special stuff. One of my wife's high school teachers also works there. But even with those connections, I've had no luck with anything Pappy.

By the way, Old Blowhard is tasting GOOOD! Heavy caramel on the nose and almost a cigar-like smokiness on the palate.


IMAGE_43.jpg




This post was edited on 3/7 7:12 PM by TheDude73
I was excited when I got a bottle of Old Blowhard. Well, I was deeply disappointed. Old Blowhard just isnt a clever name, because to me, it Blows. Awful.

Barterhouse was decent.
 
Originally posted by makersmarkambassador:
Originally posted by TheDude73:

I've only been in there once as it's 30 miles south of me here in Longmont. But we do have a place here I just visited called PJ's - guy has quite a bit of stuff. In fact, today I stopped by and found the following catch (including two bottles of Old Blowhard and Stagg Jr. - which makes my 2nd bottle of Stagg). He has 8 bottles of Stagg Jr. on the shelves, along with 4 EH Taylor collection - Straight Rye, Single Barrel, Barrel Strength, and Small Batch. In addition to those in the photo below I grabbed the EHT Rye and Single Barrel (already have Barrel Strength and Small Batch).

Given the tightness of anything Stagg, I may go back and grab a couple more for under the bar.

Applejacks down in Arvada is a good one, too, but only because my in-laws have lived down there for 25 years and know everyone, so they can sometimes get an "in" on special stuff. One of my wife's high school teachers also works there. But even with those connections, I've had no luck with anything Pappy.

By the way, Old Blowhard is tasting GOOOD! Heavy caramel on the nose and almost a cigar-like smokiness on the palate.


IMAGE_43.jpg




This post was edited on 3/7 7:12 PM by TheDude73
I was excited when I got a bottle of Old Blowhard. Well, I was deeply disappointed. Old Blowhard just isnt a clever name, because to me, it Blows. Awful.

Barterhouse was decent.
Wow, you must have either gotten a bad bottle of Blowhard, or your taste buds are wildly inaccurate!

This is one of the best tasting bourbons I've had.
 
2 bottles of Booker's 25th Anniversary just showed up on my doorstep, along with Jefferson's Ocean and Jefferson's Collaboration.

Anyone tried the 25th yet? I plan to open one and save the other this weekend.
 
Have to say that the one bourbon that I've been sticking to for these UK tournament games is Lexington Bourbon. The reason I decided to stick to it only was just because I was digging for some "superstition" and figured why not Lexington. And, it's reasonably-priced and doesn't make me feel guilty for mixing.

I started it during the KSU game, continued on it with some Diet Coke during the Wich St. game, then thanks to work travel, I was forced to buy a few fingers of it at the Pony in Chicago for the UL and Michigan games before returning home to nearly finish the bottle with my wife vs. Wisconsin.

I have maybe 1/4 bottle left and might need to stop by the local LQ to grab another for tonight's game. But as for now, Lexington Bourbon is where my heart is, at least until UK wins this thing!
 
I did Parker's 27 yr for the Wisconsin game. We did Henry McKenna 10yr, KBD Speakeasy, Elijah Craig 21yr...Herradura Double barrel reposado....Sam Adams Utopia.

Let's just say it's been a challenging morning.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 
Originally posted by TheDude73:

Originally posted by John Barleycorn:
This will be the only time blowhard and Barterhouse will be released. Period.

There might be some that pop up in the next month or so but after that, the bottles will be out if circulation.

There is a third in the series, Rhetoric, coming out in May. It's a 20yr. It will get released every year. Next yr will be a 21, 2016 will be a 22yr, etc.

My guess is those blowhards are going to get WAY more valuable.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
Well, I've been against buying to sell later on, but I went ahead and did it this time with the intention on trading for something rather than selling for cash. I'll still keep 3 of the 6 Blowhards and 2 of the 3 Barterhouses. In fact, the shop still has 3 Barterhouses left, so I may go ahead and grab those as well.

I've heard about the Rhetoric and Strongbox coming out this year - will certainly add those to my collection as well.

Oh, I was able to secure a bottle of Ocean for just $125 from a shop in NJ. He also threw in Jefferson's Chef Collaboration at a discounted rate, so I should see those next week.
Saw "old blowhard" on the drink menu at bourbons bistro in Louisville. $200 per drink.
 
Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

Originally posted by TheDude73:

Originally posted by John Barleycorn:
This will be the only time blowhard and Barterhouse will be released. Period.

There might be some that pop up in the next month or so but after that, the bottles will be out if circulation.

There is a third in the series, Rhetoric, coming out in May. It's a 20yr. It will get released every year. Next yr will be a 21, 2016 will be a 22yr, etc.

My guess is those blowhards are going to get WAY more valuable.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
Well, I've been against buying to sell later on, but I went ahead and did it this time with the intention on trading for something rather than selling for cash. I'll still keep 3 of the 6 Blowhards and 2 of the 3 Barterhouses. In fact, the shop still has 3 Barterhouses left, so I may go ahead and grab those as well.

I've heard about the Rhetoric and Strongbox coming out this year - will certainly add those to my collection as well.

Oh, I was able to secure a bottle of Ocean for just $125 from a shop in NJ. He also threw in Jefferson's Chef Collaboration at a discounted rate, so I should see those next week.
Saw "old blowhard" on the drink menu at bourbons bistro in Louisville. $200 per drink.
That's absurd. I saw them at bars while up in Chicago for a work trip and they were $65 for a 2-oz pour. I have 6 bottles and today saw 2 more sitting in the glass case at a high-end liquor shop in Boulder (Hazel's). I almost grabbed those but instead picked up the Jefferson's 21- and 25-year ryes. I was also lucky enough to have managed 3 bottles of the Booker's 25th Anniversary. But to charge more per 2-oz drink than a bottle costs - wow. People will pay it, though - fools that they are!

Also, big news (for me) - I have finally completed my Pappy collection. As of Friday I will finally have the 10, 12, 13 rye, 15, 20 and 23-years on my shelf. It's taken a lot of patience and perseverance to avoid paying those exorbitant black market prices, but I did it. Photos will be in my bourbon collection album (posted above) next week.
 
Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:
I thought it was ridiculous too. Noone even knew what it was except me.

No way I'd pay $200 for that.
Hell, the bottle at the store was only $150-ish. At 750 ml, that's a bit more than 25 ounces, and at $200 per 2-oz pour (the standard neat pour), these goons are trying to make $2500 per bottle!

Hey, if it catches on and my 8 bottles go Pappy-like on the aftermarket, then I'm ok with it. I'll still keep a few for myself, though.
 
Newest additions to the collection over the past couple of weeks. More on the way, too (of the Pappy, Willett Rye and Larue Weller variety). On the Booker's 25th, I actually have of these babies. I'm actually opening one tonight, as well as the Elijah Craig Barrel Proof (I have 2 bottles so one gets opened for sipping).

IMAGE_259.jpg


IMAGE_260.jpg


IMAGE_261.jpg


IMAGE_262.jpg
 
Originally posted by John Barleycorn:
Nice. Two of the better WR masters they've put out.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
What are your thoughts on the Classic and Straight Malts? They arrive tomorrow. However, I've only heard great things about the Four Wood and Seasoned Oak bourbons, so I'm excited to try them this weekend.
 
They are different, that is for sure. While they are malts, it's US ingredients, KY water etc. I went into thinking the classic aged malt would be the in I liked the most but turns out I really enjoyed the straight. It was lighter but I thought it was great. It had a ver Christmas cookie/walkers cookie nose and bread-like malt flavor. It's not anything like bourbon for anyone reading this. But...I enjoyed them. Not as much as four wood and seasoned oak.
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 
My Pappy 20 and 23 arrived today. All at normal retail prices. Those red and black velvet beauties look fabulous on the bar.

Anyone tried Wild Turkey Tradition? Also how about Angel's Envy Cask strength? They arrive next week.

Also found a couple bottles of Elijah Craig Barrel Proof. Very tasty!
Posted from Rivals Mobile
 
Originally posted by TheDude73:
My Pappy 20 and 23 arrived today. All at normal retail prices. Those red and black velvet beauties look fabulous on the bar.

Anyone tried Wild Turkey Tradition? Also how about Angel's Envy Cask strength? They arrive next week.

Also found a couple bottles of Elijah Craig Barrel Proof. Very tasty!
Posted from Rivals Mobile
Not a fan of angels envy. Although I've heard the rye is phenomenal.
 
Have to agree with someone above about Old Blowhard. Pretty much sucked due to being well over-oaked, had no complexity or balance and very dry on the finish. Old bourbon does not equal better bourbon. I'm glad I was part of five other guys that bought it and saved a few dollars. I did pick up a Wild Turkey Diamond today. I'll try it some day down the road. Pretty sure I overpaid for it as well.
 
Originally posted by kyrockhunter:
Have to agree with someone above about Old Blowhard. Pretty much sucked due to being well over-oaked, had no complexity or balance and very dry on the finish. Old bourbon does not equal better bourbon. I'm glad I was part of five other guys that bought it and saved a few dollars. I did pick up a Wild Turkey Diamond today. I'll try it some day down the road. Pretty sure I overpaid for it as well.
Yeah I did not like my bottle and its getting mixed reviews by a lot of people. I might try another pour if I see it out to give it another try.

Opened up my bottle of 2004 George T. Stagg last week. It is by far THE best bourbon I've ever had. I am not sure why I waited so long to open the bottle.
 
Originally posted by kyrockhunter:
Have to agree with someone above about Old Blowhard. Pretty much sucked due to being well over-oaked, had no complexity or balance and very dry on the finish. Old bourbon does not equal better bourbon. I'm glad I was part of five other guys that bought it and saved a few dollars. I did pick up a Wild Turkey Diamond today. I'll try it some day down the road. Pretty sure I overpaid for it as well.
Have to agree. I bought up 8 bottles locally and kept 2. Opened one and have sipped it, and while it's not horrible, it's not great either. Sold 6 of the bottles recently for a profit big enough to pay for the 2 I have left.

Barterhouse is a bit better, although it's still not complex at all. Diaego is going to have a hard time convincing people to pull the big trigger on their upcoming releases if they keep sending out mediocrity.
 
Have a good friend retiring from the military in a few months who has put in 30+ years of very hard service to this country. Trying to find him a really good bottle of bourbon as a gift, found a bottle of Stagg Jr. today. Have never had it---for those who have, it is that special, or just another good bottle of bourbon?

TIA.
 
Local chains around here have had Blowhard and Barterhouse in the case for awhile and it's not moving. Seems to be plenty of Jeffersons Ocean around too.

I have been unable to buy any Pappy or regular Stagg this year, but I'd say Stagg Jr and The regular Jeffersons Reserve are the best items I've had during this supposed bourbon shortage.

I feel like I've tried a lot of $50+ bottles that aren't top shelf.
 
That Diageo orphan barrel stuff sort of fell flat. It's a very interesting concept. Really, it's just a large company trying to emulate what the Zoellers did with jefferson's bourbon except with stocks they already own and didn't know what they should do with. Old Blowhard was distilled at the old Bernheim facility, while Barterhouse was from the current Bernheim distillery (Heaven Hill/Evan Williams) but the barrels were aged at Stitzel-Weller. Initially, people flocked ot these releases after hearing they were stitzel weller barrels, but that was before they learned they weren't actually distilled there.

The main problem with the OBP is that the barrels are just too old. Bourbon, especially bourbon with rye as the secodnary mash grain, struggles to handle more than about 15 ears of aging. Wheated bourbons can go out a touch longer, but there is a definite peak in wich the oak and tannins overtake the sweetness and flavor of the bourbon itself.

Old Blowhard, at 26 years and $150 is just not a good bourbon. Barterhouse is slightly better, but not nearly complex and falvorful enough to live up to the hype. In the end, there's a reason those barrels were never initially released, and my thought is that the distillers didn't like what they had in them. They aren't selling well on the secondary market, so their value is really as a novelty, not for the whiskey inside.

The Jefferson's Ocean actually moved pretty well, and it wound up being a decent bourbon. (Is it really a bourbon when it's aged on boats outside the United States?) It's not a world beater or anything, but it's a fine bourbon.


This post was edited on 5/14 10:34 AM by ModernThirst_Bill

This post was edited on 5/14 10:41 AM by ModernThirst_Bill
 
To me, any bourbon aged over 15yrs is hit or miss. I am not a fan of the Pappy 20 or 23yr bourbons. The 20 is decent, but not for the price.
 
I really like the 20...it's one of my favorites. The 23 is a definite step down...and for more than double the price, that's a problem. but they're wheated, and wheat (to me) seems to hold up better in the barrel than rye. The downside to that is that wheated bourbons under 12 years of age taste astringent and unfinished to me. They need 12 years of age to be good, and can go out to about 21 years. Rye bourbons need about 7-8 years of age to be decent and go out to about 15 years.

One of the most disappointing bourbon's I've had this year (including the orphan barrel stuff) is the Jefferson's Presidential Select 25 year. That's a $300 bourbon that is a good 10 years past its prime. The 18 is really nice, but the 25 year is not.
This post was edited on 5/14 12:01 PM by ModernThirst_Bill
 
Originally posted by WettCat:
Have a good friend retiring from the military in a few months who has put in 30+ years of very hard service to this country. Trying to find him a really good bottle of bourbon as a gift, found a bottle of Stagg Jr. today. Have never had it---for those who have, it is that special, or just another good bottle of bourbon?

TIA.
For me, Stagg Jr was a good bottle. Now its not as great as the Stagg Sr bottles out there, but for $50 a bottle its a great pour. Just be sure you cut it a little if you don't like your bourbon hot. (being 136proof)
 
The aroma alone is wrth the price of admission on the Stagg, Jr. Great bourbon. I passed on that release this year, thinking I wouldn't like it as much as the GTStagg and regretted it the moment I tasted it.

GTStagg is better, but the Jr is still a great bourbon.

Right now, the Antique colelction from BT might be the best annual series release in the industry aside from maybe the limited editions from Four Roses, and even then, it's mighty close.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT