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You are correct in Stoops has brought us to the mid teir of SEC,which is improvement. It just irritates me that so many seem satisfied to stay there. There was huge hype before last season just like this one with poor results. IMO we have been stuck in same place since Covid year yet everyone is crowing how much better we are. They ignore things like last years Vandy loss or Mizzou the year before,or inability to beat TN. us losing Every SEC west road game for a decade. I would prefer actual improvment on the feild rather than hype and bullshit. Im 65 and went to my first UK game in 1966. Always dreamed I would see the Cats play for a Championship at least once in my life, dont see Stoops getting us there. Hope Im wrong.
There have only been 2 seasons since the COVID season, and one of those was a 10 win season where we finished 2nd in the East.

That’s only the 4th time we’ve won 10 games in program history, and with as dominant as Georgia was that year, there’s absolutely no way that we were going to finish higher than them in the standings.

But if you don’t view the 2021 season as progress, particularly on the offensive side of the ball, then I can’t help you.

I think it’s safe to say that most UK fans want us to continue progressing, but recognizing progress and celebrating seasons like 2021 doesn’t mean we’re content with where we are. It means we have perspective on where we’re coming from.

We have a huge mountain to climb. But it’s okay to celebrate and enjoy progress we’ve made thus far, and that doesn’t mean we’re going to abandon efforts to try to get to the summit.
 
Is he a huge improvement over Joker Phillips yes. After 50+ years of following UK football I have grown less interested in " quality" and more intetested Victory. Stoops brought us to a point and seems he is stuck there for last 3 or 4 years yet many scream we have gotten better during this time,in the only stat that really matters Ws I dont see it, and I dont mean the 4 tomato cans we play every year I mean SEC.
 
Is he a huge improvement over Joker Phillips yes. After 50+ years of following UK football I have grown less interested in " quality" and more intetested Victory. Stoops brought us to a point and seems he is stuck there for last 3 or 4 years yet many scream we have gotten better during this time,in the only stat that really matters Ws I dont see it, and I dont mean the 4 tomato cans we play every year I mean SEC.
It’s a huge improvement over more than just Joker Philips, but if you want to be miserable, be miserable. That’s your right.

I’m going to to enjoy the ride.
 
It’s a huge improvement over more than just Joker Philips, but if you want to be miserable, be miserable. That’s your right.

I’m going to to enjoy the ride.
I am not miserable fella Im ready to win and win big. Doesnt seem to me that Stoops will ever get us to that point.If you are happy being mediocre more power to you
 
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You are correct in Stoops has brought us to the mid teir of SEC,which is improvement. It just irritates me that so many seem satisfied to stay there.

Well I don't think anyone wants to stay there, but the next stop up is top tier of the SEC. Which means you're one of the best teams in the country and a national title contender.

I mean, yeah, everybody wants to be at the top of college football. Figuring out how to get there isn't exactly easy.
 
Dig on hater 😂


The nc was won in the SEC going undefeated

Uga 1980 title didn’t have to play 13 games.

It's just a reality. You played a team with a 3rd string qb. Fsu at full strength would have been a more worthy opponent.

You also had a bunch of near losses. Weakest champ of last 25 years easily. Soon to not be within 25 years though. Ouch.
 
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It's just a reality. You played a team with a 3rd string qb. Fsu at full strength would have been a more worthy opponent.

You also had a bunch of near losses. Weakest champ of last 25 years easily. Soon to not be within 25 years though. Ouch.


😂😂….hang in there 1987
 
Is he a huge improvement over Joker Phillips yes. After 50+ years of following UK football I have grown less interested in " quality" and more intetested Victory. Stoops brought us to a point and seems he is stuck there for last 3 or 4 years yet many scream we have gotten better during this time,in the only stat that really matters Ws I dont see it, and I dont mean the 4 tomato cans we play every year I mean SEC.
It is essential to understand the relationship between "quality" and "victory". Stating the obvious, quality leads to improvement. You seem to be suggesting that quality is being used as a distraction, which clearly is not the case.

People tend to be impatient. Immediate gratification has become an acceptable expectation in our culture. Many UK fans have made the mistake of demanding immediate results and a straight-line linear improvement. But as those with management experience are aware, improvement doesn't happen like that. At best, improvement is a three steps forward two steps backward experience, because the other schools in the conference also want to improve and win. The difference between big talk and big results is courage, patience, resources, and an ability to stay the course. And that is exactly the path Stoops and Barnhart are following, even when it pisses off Cal and his legions.

I listen to people who say what you are saying, and I wonder what will ever satisfy you. Is Stoops successful? Objectively, he is. There is not a rational case to dispute that. He is winning more than Claiborne, Curry, Mumme, Morriss, Brooks, or Joker did, and he is doing this without breaking rules. Stoops is credible, clean, and shrewd. His staff is strong for the most part, and our recruiting footprint is growing.

We can tell we have a program on an improving arc because Brad White's defense was #2 in the SEC in total defense last year. Stoops is busting his butt to bring his offense onto that same arc. The return of Coen and the arrival of Leary suggest it is happening.

Out of our last 5 football seasons, two were 10 win seasons. Curry, Mumme, Brooks, and Joker would have killed for that. Mumme even cheated but couldn't do it. And yet you insist we aren't seeing Ws. You are blind and plain wrong.
 
It is essential to understand the relationship between "quality" and "victory". Stating the obvious, quality leads to improvement. You seem to be suggesting that quality is being used as a distraction, which clearly is not the case.

People tend to be impatient. Immediate gratification has become an acceptable expectation in our culture. Many UK fans have made the mistake of demanding immediate results and a straight-line linear improvement. But as those with management experience are aware, improvement doesn't happen like that. At best, improvement is a three steps forward two steps backward experience, because the other schools in the conference also want to improve and win. The difference between big talk and big results is courage, patience, resources, and an ability to stay the course. And that is exactly the path Stoops and Barnhart are following, even when it pisses off Cal and his legions.

I listen to people who say what you are saying, and I wonder what will ever satisfy you. Is Stoops successful? Objectively, he is. There is not a rational case to dispute that. He is winning more than Claiborne, Curry, Mumme, Morriss, Brooks, or Joker did, and he is doing this without breaking rules. Stoops is credible, clean, and shrewd. His staff is strong for the most part, and our recruiting footprint is growing.

We can tell we have a program on an improving arc because Brad White's defense was #2 in the SEC in total defense last year. Stoops is busting his butt to bring his offense onto that same arc. The return of Coen and the arrival of Leary suggest it is happening.

Out of our last 5 football seasons, two were 10 win seasons. Curry, Mumme, Brooks, and Joker would have killed for that. Mumme even cheated but couldn't do it. And yet you insist we aren't seeing Ws. You are blind and plain wrong.
Well said.

In addition to your point about improvement rarely being a straight line, people don’t seem to understand that as you win more games on average, it gets progressively more difficult to get that next win.

It’s a bit like designing a car and trying to increase the top speed. As a car increases speed, the amount of aerodynamic drag increases exponentially, making it harder and harder to continue going faster. So it is significantly easier to increase your top speed from 100 MPH to 150 MPH than it is to increase your top speed from 230 MPH to 235 MPH.

Similarly, it’s a lot easier to go from a 7 win team to a 9 win team than it is to go from a 10 win team to an 11 win team. That extra win will take more effort and the key is to simply watch for continued improvement and be patient, and I think we’re seeing that.
 
I am not miserable fella Im ready to win and win big. Doesnt seem to me that Stoops will ever get us to that point.If you are happy being mediocre more power to you
Leary was the #1 qb in the portal... he might be the best qb we've had since Stoops got here. OL was trash last year. We added 2 OT and maybe 2 new OL starters and 2 more guys moving to better positions for them. D still looks good. Coen back. Tayvion Robinson came back and is our #3 receiver. If you don't see a whole lot of reason to be excited this year then you should just stick with bball. LOL.
 
Leary was the #1 qb in the portal... he might be the best qb we've had since Stoops got here. OL was trash last year. We added 2 OT and maybe 2 new OL starters and 2 more guys moving to better positions for them. D still looks good. Coen back. Tayvion Robinson came back and is our #3 receiver. If you don't see a whole lot of reason to be excited this year then you should just stick with bball. LOL.
Ill watch a couple of games and decide then. As for what you wrote its fine Ive breen listening to variations of your aguments off and on for 50 years Im used to it
 
Is he a huge improvement over Joker Phillips yes. After 50+ years of following UK football I have grown less interested in " quality" and more intetested Victory. Stoops brought us to a point and seems he is stuck there for last 3 or 4 years yet many scream we have gotten better during this time,in the only stat that really matters Ws I dont see it, and I dont mean the 4 tomato cans we play every year I mean SEC.
What should we do?
 
Ill watch a couple of games and decide then. As for what you wrote its fine Ive breen listening to variations of your aguments off and on for 50 years Im used to it
Yea. Because we get transfers from the #1 qb all the time and have a top 20 defense returning all the time and have 3 wr's that grade out to be on nfl draft lists all the time. Matter of fact... we always get picked as the sleeper team of the SEC and we always are picked top 3 in the East.
 
You are correct in Stoops has brought us to the mid teir of SEC,which is improvement. It just irritates me that so many seem satisfied to stay there. There was huge hype before last season just like this one with poor results. IMO we have been stuck in same place since Covid year yet everyone is crowing how much better we are. They ignore things like last years Vandy loss or Mizzou the year before,or inability to beat TN. us losing Every SEC west road game for a decade. I would prefer actual improvment on the feild rather than hype and bullshit. Im 65 and went to my first UK game in 1966. Always dreamed I would see the Cats play for a Championship at least once in my life, dont see Stoops getting us there. Hope Im wrong.
Levis injury, long snapper issues, o-line confusion, and Rich Scangarello killed us last year. Our skill position and defense were top notch but being in the bottom 5% in scoring was a direct 180 from Coen. You should never lose to a team like Vandy when you hold them in the low 20’s, all Scang issues imo. And before everyone goes off on the o-line, no way was the talent so bad that we would give up 13 sacks to our non P5 teams; that’s coaching and confusion imo. Even Stoops said at one point that Scang’s playbook should probably be dialed back due to our issues.

Point being that we had the talent to win 9-10 games but our scheme held us back and that’s on Scangs imo.
 
Math ain’t Art’s strong suit!!

We’ve been in the top half of SEC teams by wins for more than half of Stoops’ tenure for the first time since Bear Bryant.
 
Levis injury, long snapper issues, o-line confusion, and Rich Scangarello killed us last year. Our skill position and defense were top notch but being in the bottom 5% in scoring was a direct 180 from Coen. You should never lose to a team like Vandy when you hold them in the low 20’s, all Scang issues imo. And before everyone goes off on the o-line, no way was the talent so bad that we would give up 13 sacks to our non P5 teams; that’s coaching and confusion imo. Even Stoops said at one point that Scang’s playbook should probably be dialed back due to our issues.

Point being that we had the talent to win 9-10 games but our scheme held us back and that’s on Scangs imo.

Scang deservingy gets much of the criticism for the offense. But Levis gets a pass? he was a good runner, strong arm, but wasn't accurate, locked on to receivers, held the ball too long. The transfer from Nebraska covered a lot of that up in 21. But the bowl game and the 2 games he missed clearly showed a big drop off to the next QB.
 
Math ain’t Art’s strong suit!!

We’ve been in the top half of SEC teams by wins for more than half of Stoops’ tenure for the first time since Bear Bryant.
You remind me of a guy that plaus 18 holes but only counts the back nine because his score was lower. Comparing Stoops to Bryant,really. Heres some math for you, during Stoops
First five years here--- w 12 l 28
Last five years------- W 20. L 22
total SEC Record ---- W32. L50 win % 40%
Looks pretty middle of the road to me.
By the way
Bear Bryant
8 years
Sec W 22 L 16 T4 win % 58
Bit of a difference.
 
You remind me of a guy that plaus 18 holes but only counts the back nine because his score was lower. Comparing Stoops to Bryant,really. Heres some math for you, during Stoops
First five years here--- w 12 l 28
Last five years------- W 20. L 22
total SEC Record ---- W32. L50 win % 40%
Looks pretty middle of the road to me.
By the way
Bear Bryant
8 years
Sec W 22 L 16 T4 win % 58
Bit of a difference.
Yeah, Bear did a tad better than Stoops against an SEC that included Tulane, and excluded 30% of the native population of the Deep South from participation.

And other than Bear Bryant no one has come close to Stoops’ numbers.

You’ve indicated you can’t stand the mediocrity. Thank God you aren’t a Cat basketball fan . . . our annual tourney failures in men’s basketball would drive you batsh!t Crazy!!
 
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I am not miserable fella Im ready to win and win big. Doesnt seem to me that Stoops will ever get us to that point.If you are happy being mediocre more power to you
Art, you have put yourself in a tough place. So, you fire Stoops. Who do you hire...and remember they have to want to come here or you don't get them?

Stoops has consistently made us top two or three in SEC in defense. Stoops has brought back Coen which I believe you will agree improves the offense. With a top flight defense and improved offense, wins will follow.

Now if KY fires Stoops who has improved the program so much...and shows no loyalty to him for what he has done, what coach is going to take the job considering the lack of homegrown football talent in Kentucky and the disadvantages that come with that reality?
 
Scang deservingy gets much of the criticism for the offense. But Levis gets a pass? he was a good runner, strong arm, but wasn't accurate, locked on to receivers, held the ball too long. The transfer from Nebraska covered a lot of that up in 21. But the bowl game and the 2 games he missed clearly showed a big drop off to the next QB.


In 2021 Levis ran a lot and was able to get first downs, touchdowns and keep a defense honest with the threat of leaving the pocket.

In 2022 our offensive coordinator came out and said he would not be leaving the pocket.

Unfortunately Kentucky’s big blue wall we have developed over the years is named that for running and not pass protection.

If Kentucky had Georgias protection you could tell the other teams your game plan too and get away with it.

Unfortunately Kentucky is not in that position. Will definitely deserves a little criticism for last year but the brunt of it lies on the OC.
 
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Its NOT against the SEC, record last 5 years our SEC record id 20-22


If you look at those years the Covid year would’ve been a 4-4 year if regular schedule was played. So over 5 years a .500 sec record.

As a lifetime UK fan how many times has Kentucky had a .500 record in the sec over a 5 year span?

I understand that everyone wants to go 15-0 every season. We all want more 10 win seasons and less 7 win seasons. However most of your 65 years until stoops you were praying for a 6 win season and a bowl game!


Let’s not downplay the overall achievement of making fans even believe Kentucky football could do anything other than be an appetizer for basketball.
 
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In 2021 Levis ran a lot and was able to get first downs, touchdowns and keep a defense honest with the threat of leaving the pocket.

In 2022 our offensive coordinator came out and said he would not be leaving the pocket.

Unfortunately Kentucky’s big blue wall we have developed over the years is named that for running and not pass protection.

If Kentucky had Georgias protection you could tell the other teams your game plan too and get away with it.

Unfortunately Kentucky is not in that position. Will definitely deserves a little criticism for last year but the brunt of it lies on the OC.

All of that being true, with the injury issues WL was forced to deal with his running the ball would have been limited regardless of who the OC was. WL had some legit WR in 22, but in 21 he had an AA type WR who was alway open and helped him out. Leary is a huge upgrade, WL never concerned me because of the reasons I mentioned earlier, Leary does, while he may not have the arm strength, or running ability, he is much better at everything that makes a QB dangerous.
 
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All of that being true, with the injury issues WL was forced to deal with his running the ball would have been limited regardless of who the OC was. WL had some legit WR in 22, but in 21 he had an AA type WR who was alway open and helped him out. Leary is a huge upgrade, WL never concerned me because of the reasons I mentioned earlier, Leary does, while he may not have the arm strength, or running ability, he is much better at everything that makes a QB dangerous.


I agree with you and hope you are right. If Leary is better than WL then this will be a very special year for Kentucky.

For the record I do have the argument with my brother at times wondering if WL was that good or if he was throwing to Wandale who always had 1-3 steps on his man that made him look good.

Got robbed of a chance of seeing the truth on that with OC and OL issues last year.

So now gotta base it on how he does or doesn’t do in the NFL. As a UK fan I hope he turns out to be an awesome NFL qb and puts the argument to rest.
 
I agree with you and hope you are right. If Leary is better than WL then this will be a very special year for Kentucky.

For the record I do have the argument with my brother at times wondering if WL was that good or if he was throwing to Wandale who always had 1-3 steps on his man that made him look good.

Got robbed of a chance of seeing the truth on that with OC and OL issues last year.

So now gotta base it on how he does or doesn’t do in the NFL. As a UK fan I hope he turns out to be an awesome NFL qb and puts the argument to rest.

It's always good to see someone realize their dream and he is getting that opportunity.
 
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