Best four-year player at UK?

[FurdTerguson]

It's not Issel. Not Walker. Not Mashburn. Not anyone under Calipari.

Tayshaun? Can anyone top him?

 

[BStockfan01]

Brandon stockton

 

[CGblue]

Keith Bogans is my first thought.. I'm not done though.
Edit: I misread the part about Tayshaun.

 

[UK90]

Kenny Walker, Tony Delk and Goose Givens immediately spring to mind.

 

[FurdTerguson]

Kenny Walker, Tony Delk and Goose Givens immediately spring to mind.

Walker played three years

 

[UK90]

Walker played three years

Wrong. He played all four.

 

[FurdTerguson]

Wrong. He played all four.

You're right. Was thinking he was a freshman in 84.

 

[ukfan1622]

Wrong. He played all four.

Then he must be the guy. Freshmen didn't get to play until, what late 1970s?

 

[UK90]

Then he must be the guy. Freshmen didn't get to play until, what late 1970s?

The 72-73 season was the first with freshmen eligibility.

 

[DraftCat]

Wayne Turner

 

[FurdTerguson]

Grevey. Goose. Robey. Walker. Delk. Prince. Bogans. Hayes.

 

[UK90]

Grevey. Goose. Robey. Walker. Delk. Prince. Bogans. Hayes.

Grevey only played three years. Freshman still weren’t eligible his first year.

 

[bthaunert]

Ralph Beard is at the top of the list if we are talking about their impact and accomplishments at UK. 3 time consensus 1st team AA. 2 national championships. Olympic gold medal.

The only other one that compares is Alex Groza.

 

[UK90]

Ralph Beard is at the top of the list if we are talking about their impact and accomplishments at UK. 3 time consensus 1st team AA. 2 national championships. Olympic gold medal.

The only other one that compares is Alex Groza.

I believe the OP’s criteria is dudes that played four years at UK …thus excluding those from the freshmen ineligibility era like Beard and Groza.

 

[bthaunert]

I believe the OP’s criteria is dudes that played four years at UK …thus excluding those from the freshmen ineligibility era like Beard and Groza.

Freshman were eligible then. First team all SEC all 4 years. I think the 52-53 season was the first that they weren’t eligible.

 

[UK90]

Freshman were eligible then. First team all SEC all 4 years.

Oops. My bad. I forgot about that.

When did the freshman ineligibility era begin?

 

[bthaunert]

Oops. My bad. I forgot about that.

When did the freshman ineligibility era begin?

Edited my post. I believe it’s the 52-53 season.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Tony Delk best in modern era when you factor in individual talent and team accomplishments.

 

[JPScott]

Just for reference, below are the 1000-point UK career scorers who played four years at UK:

Kenny Walker 2080​

Jack Givens 2038​

Keith Bogans 1923​

Tony Delk 1890​

Tayshaun Prince 1775​

Alex Groza 1774 (freshman year only played 10 games before entering the Army)​

Ed Davender 1637​

Ralph Beard 1517​

Melvin Turpin 1509​

Joe Crawford 1438​

Winston Bennett 1399​

Rick Robey 1395​

Gerald Fitch 1391​

Mike Phillips 1367​

Ramel Bradley 1326​

Jim Master 1283​

John Pelphrey 1257​

Scott Padgett 1252​

Darius Miller 1248​

Deron Feldhaus 1232​

Derrick Hord 1220​

Chuck Hayes 1211​

Wayne Turner 1170​

Reggie Hanson 1167​

Derrick Miller 1156​

Wah Wah Jones 1151​

Jeff Sheppard 1091​

Dirk Minniefield 1069​

Jamaal Magloire 1064​

Erik Daniels 1053​

Jim Line 1041​

 

[Mike-D]

Just for reference, below are the 1000-point UK career scorers who played four years at UK:

Kenny Walker 2080​

Jack Givens 2038​

Keith Bogans 1923​

Tony Delk 1890​

Tayshaun Prince 1775​

Alex Groza 1774 (freshman year only played 10 games before entering the Army)​

Ed Davender 1637​

Ralph Beard 1517​

Melvin Turpin 1509​

Joe Crawford 1438​

Winston Bennett 1399​

Rick Robey 1395​

Gerald Fitch 1391​

Mike Phillips 1367​

Ramel Bradley 1326​

Jim Master 1283​

John Pelphrey 1257​

Scott Padgett 1252​

Darius Miller 1248​

Deron Feldhaus 1232​

Derrick Hord 1220​

Chuck Hayes 1211​

Wayne Turner 1170​

Reggie Hanson 1167​

Derrick Miller 1156​

Wah Wah Jones 1151​

Jeff Sheppard 1091​

Dirk Minniefield 1069​

Jamaal Magloire 1064​

Erik Daniels 1053​

Jim Line 1041​

Thanks JP.

 

[FurdTerguson]

Wrong. He played all four.

He actually started three games in 83 and averaged seven points a game. I completely forgot that happened. That means he played in the Dream Game.

 

[nickhorvathsuxazz]

It's not Issel. Not Walker. Not Mashburn. Not anyone under Calipari.

Tayshaun? Can anyone top him?

Kenny Walker or Goose Givens...it's a tossup for me

 

[chroix]

Wayne Turner

Hard to argue with this. Two championships and a runner up is nearly impossible to replicate.

 

[Wildcat Sheli]

Hard to argue with this. Two championships and a runner up is nearly impossible to replicate.

And Wayne Turner’s 151 college games played held the record for 10 years until it was tied in 2009, then eventually surpassed (the non-Covid waiver era record is 157).

 

[calamitybone]

Goose. In the final game as a freshman and as a senior he dropped 41 on dook in his final game. Storybook career for a Kentucky kid.

 

[FurdTerguson]

Ralph Beard is at the top of the list if we are talking about their impact and accomplishments at UK. 3 time consensus 1st team AA. 2 national championships. Olympic gold medal.

The only other one that compares is Alex Groza.

Those old guys get no respect. Just saw a show where guys picked an All-time Celtics team, by position. Dennis Johnson and Paul Pierce were chosen over Bob Cousy and John Havlicheck.

 

[JonathanW]

Walker played three years

Uh NO! Kenny Walker played 4 years.

 

[Youngcats]

Chuck Hayes, Gerald Fitch just respected how hard they played maybe not best player-lot of heart.

 

[JonathanW]

In order, I'd go:
Kenny Walker
Groza
Beard
Givens
Delk
Prince
Bogans

 

[BlueBomb]

Given my age (58), I can't fairly evaluate anyone before the '78 championship season.

So, it's Sky and it's not close for ME. This is an "in-the-eye-of-the-beholder" conversation.

 

[FurdTerguson]

Uh NO! Kenny Walker played 4 years.

I know. Brain fart. I couldn't remember Walker playing in 83. I looked up the Dream Game box score. 26 minutes, 2 points.

 

[JonathanW]

Chuck Hayes, Gerald Fitch just respected how hard they played maybe not best player-lot of heart.

Loved both those guys. Fitch is the most under-appreciated Wildcat I can think of. He was a defensive stopper, the toughest player on the court (when not Hayes), he shot 40% from 3 I think 3 of 4 years, and was a very good rebounding guard.

 

[jeffky]

Wayne Turner

This

 

[MrHotDice]

Wayne Turner

Bingo , wayne Turner was the man who stirred the drink. He should have a banner hanging in Rupp.

 

[52T]

Kenny Walker or Goose Givens...it's a tossup

Walker

 

[ZenCatFan73]

I was born in 73, so the answer for me is Kenny Walker.

 

[bthaunert]

In order, I'd go:
Kenny Walker
Groza
Beard
Givens
Delk
Prince
Bogans

That’s a pretty good list. I’d change the order a little but you have 7 of the top 8 scorers in UK history that played 4 years.

Trivia…do you know who the 1 guy that’s missing is?

 

[UK90]

Trivia…do you know who the 1 guy that’s missing is?

Davender

 

[Bluegrassking]

Goose
Delk
Sky
Turner
Prince
Bogans
Magloire
Hayes

 

[Smashcat]

Keith Bogans is my first thought.. I'm not done though.
Edit: I misread the part about Tayshaun.

Bogans might not be the best but certainly one of my top favorites.