But they had a freshman team, so they should technically qualify.
Prince was one of my favorite players, not sure if I’d qualify him as the best. Guys like Issel, Dampier, Givens. And others would have to be in the list.
Best four-year player at UK?
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Prince was one of my favorite players, not sure if I’d qualify him as the best. Guys like Issel, Dampier, Givens. And others would have to be in the list.
That's insane at least for DJ; both Cousy and JH rate well above him. I never liked the Jayhawk but I can't deny he's an all time great.
Issell scored less than 1041? I find they hard to believe, he scored hair under 34 ppg his senior season
In my lifetime (the first team I remember was around 91ish/ 92, I’d say Tay is my favorite but it would probably be a guy I wasn’t able to watch like Issel or Walker. Kenny is a good dude, I’ve had the opportunity to do some things with him. All of the Hall guys were just awesome. Totally different humble nature to those guys than current players.
Issel didn't play four years of varsity. He played during an era when freshmen were ineligible to play on the varsity so he only played three years on the varsity.
This list is only those players who played four varsity seasons for UK.
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Anyone that says Prince over Walker is just too young to remember Walker, and nostalgic over a player they saw.
+1 but I might give Goose the edge for leading us to a title which Sky was never able to do.
For love of Ky. and showing up for every game , Chuck Hayes gets at least an honorable mention.
Probably so...when the last memory you have of a player as a Wildcat is him dropping 41 on the dookies in a title game victory, that probably takes all ties. But man did I love watching Walker play...
I remember Walker way more than Goose just because I was only 7 win he led UK to a title. However basing it off of stats, titles, fans adoration, etc. I would give the slight edge to Goose. With that said I talked to Kenny at an appearance once for an hour or so and he was as cool as they come. Told a lot of stories about his playing days. I was taken back to my teenage years hearing him tell the stories and as a lifelong UK fan it was quite the experience.
I always hate the "X won a title (or more titles), so he is better" argument. It doesn't take into consideration who you had playing with you. Walker was not on very talented teams his JR & SR years. Yes, the 86 team was a contender, but only because Walker put them on his back. That's why Dale Brown played the Freak defense, to put all the focus on KW and have the other 4 beat them (which they didn't). Yes, Givens was "the guy" on the 78 team, but they also had Macy, Robey & Phillips. At most, the "title" argument is a tiebreaker.
But it is close between Givens and Walker. So, if anyone thinks Givens, I have no argument with that. I'll stick with Walker though.
But it is close between Givens and Walker. So, if anyone thinks Givens, I have no argument with that. I'll stick with Walker though.
Grevey was a Super Kitten. (The old guys will remember)
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These “best player “ threads can be interesting to read but it’s so impossible to compare players from different teams, different eras, different positions. Stats? What did your team need you to do? Championships? What kind of help did you have? Familiarity ? Have we seen them all? Awards? Who was the competition for the honors ?
It is Issel, in my opinion. I realize he only played three years of Varsity ball, but he was at Uk for four years, counting his Jr. Varsity year.
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No matter IMO. He scored more in three years than any of the four year players. And, he and other players who played on Freshnen Jr. Varsity were there all four years.
Here is my all 4 year player team going traditional positions:
G - Ralph Beard
G - Tony Delk
F - Jack Givens
F - Kenny Walker
C - Alex Groza
G - Ralph Beard
G - Tony Delk
F - Jack Givens
F - Kenny Walker
C - Alex Groza
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