Wow, you say it is not close and then say Bamba needs Cal because he is raw as hell? So a raw as hell unproven frosh over Bam and it ain't close?
Bam or bamba?
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Wow, you say it is not close and then say Bamba needs Cal because he is raw as hell? So a raw as hell unproven frosh over Bam and it ain't close?
There is so much much false points in your post it's funny. First Bam is taller than 6'8 and has been measured many times over 6'9. Bad hands, not a great rebounder? Bamba is better at lobs? What makes you think that Bamba will be such an upgrade? He's shown absolutely little to no offensive skill. He is long and a good athlete but is very weak. I've noticed other good big's really knock him back in the paint and ha trouble rebounding with other good big's during these allstar games. Bamba has great potential but he's not a sure enough pick to say he won't wind up another Skal in his 1 year here. Bam really show great strides and was one of the better bigs in the Nation the last few weeks of this year.
Bam is great and he did a yeoman's job of jumping in the frey and holding his own this year. In fairness, his holding his own was probably the difference in our success this year, versus last. Having said that, it's been a couple of years since we've had a daunting inside presence. Best case, Bam kinda held his own, but he wasn't one of elite bigs. I'd love to see a combo of Bamba and Bam, and I believe they would compliment each other..but if I have to pick..it wouldn't take too long to go with Bamba
Anyone that wishes another player would leave to make room for a different player is no better than the weak players that leave us after 1 year and have no loyalty. I see that said quite often on this board about players not being loyal, only use us to get to nba, don't return like they do at other schools. Yet out fans won't players to leave for another one.
Let's just hope Bamba listens to basketball scouts and various college basketball experts who understand the importance of the development he'll get next year at UK vs. Duke and not his Mom and his Sister, who thought the campus at Duke was really pretty.
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Bamba said that Richards could also play the 5 and he the 4. It is really "positionless basketball" and everyone can do a little bit of everything whether Bam comes back or not.
If we had Bamba, Bam, Richards, Washington and Vanderbilt (and Gabriel and SKJ) we'd be nearly unstoppable in the front court.
Bamba said that Richards could also play the 5 and he the 4. It is really "positionless basketball" and everyone can do a little bit of everything whether Bam comes back or not.
If we had Bamba, Bam, Richards, Washington and Vanderbilt (and Gabriel and SKJ) we'd be nearly unstoppable in the front court.
Posts of this type can do nothing but hurt the Cats. Regardless of which one you prefer, there are enough criticisms of each player to make them consider, "screw you Cat's Pause", i'm going somewhere else.
I don't know the OP, but I question this type of forced critical post.
And don't give me, they don't read Cat's Pause. Were you ever 18???
I don't know the OP, but I question this type of forced critical post.
And don't give me, they don't read Cat's Pause. Were you ever 18???
I love Bam, but give me Bamba.
UK's success isn't because the OADs of the world are coming back, but because Cal has placed 30 UK guys into the NBA. Keep the OADs coming, especially when the overall productivity will be close to the same (which would be the case with Bam/Bamba after factoring in defense for Bamba and overall game for Bam).
UK's success isn't because the OADs of the world are coming back, but because Cal has placed 30 UK guys into the NBA. Keep the OADs coming, especially when the overall productivity will be close to the same (which would be the case with Bam/Bamba after factoring in defense for Bamba and overall game for Bam).
Also, Cal has placed a freshman lottery pick in the league every year dating back to 2008 with Rose. Bamba keeps that going next year. These things matter in recruiting.
2008 - Rose
2009 - Evans
2010 - Wall, Cousins, Patterson (not a freshman)
2011 - Kanter, Knight
2012 - Davis, MKG
2013 - Noel
2014 - Randle
2015 - Towns, WCS (not a freshman), Lyles, Booker
2016 - Murray
2017 - Fox, Monk
2018 - Bamba???
2008 - Rose
2009 - Evans
2010 - Wall, Cousins, Patterson (not a freshman)
2011 - Kanter, Knight
2012 - Davis, MKG
2013 - Noel
2014 - Randle
2015 - Towns, WCS (not a freshman), Lyles, Booker
2016 - Murray
2017 - Fox, Monk
2018 - Bamba???
Well then you missed a good post. The whole thing was spot on.
I also agree with this. Bam is a good college player but Bamba, I believe will be a GREAT college player even if it's one year. If he comes in and catches on quick in Cal's system like AD did, well all I've got to say is, look out!!! Lol
I'm willing to take that chance on Bamba over a sophomore Bam.
I agree. I'm not that impressed with Bam. I'll take the unknown in Bamba.
I swear to holy hell I cant believe how unappreciated Bam is and what he was able to do this year. Davis had frontline help with jones and MKG. Towns had WCS, Dakari and lyles to aid him in the frontcourt. Now those two have proven to be very special talents but imagine if either of them had only willis and Gabriel rotating all year to help in the paint.
BAM took on frontcourts by himself. He has a motor like no other and was really coming on at the end of the year. He was 70+ from free throw line the last 6 weeks and was relentless on both ends in the paint.
If I knew Bam coming back would guarantee Bamba to texus I would take soph Bam. I do understand the concern around Bam returning pushing bamba to duke, but still, Bam is so under appreciated with Uk fans.
What if we keep on hyping Bamba, just like we did with Bolden last year, and we all know how that one turned out.
Bamba all day, no offence to Bam. But history speaks for itself. Cals best teams have had a great shot blocker. As of right now the roster next year doesn't have that. For me that's the answer to your question. Bamba changes both ends of the floor drastically
Where is your evidence that bambA will dominate next year? He hasn't dominated the All Star Games so why would you think that it is a given he will against grown college men?
"Obviously we want both but if you had to chose one who are you rolling with?"
Is a false choice.
'Kay.
Their games are so different. I think they would compliment each other well.
I think bam will have a great year. Also he could provide leadership we sorely lack. That said I really really want us to have the rim protection that bamba can give. So yeah both.
If I had to pick my gut says bamba. It is a gamble but if he is Nerlens 2.0 plus all the other talent, that could be pretty good.
I think bam will have a great year. Also he could provide leadership we sorely lack. That said I really really want us to have the rim protection that bamba can give. So yeah both.
If I had to pick my gut says bamba. It is a gamble but if he is Nerlens 2.0 plus all the other talent, that could be pretty good.
Bam got better as the season progressed, a lot of it has to do with how we changed up our offense and ran the offense through Bam. UCLA and UNC had a game plan to stop Bam and make the other guys beat you instead. The reason why UNC lost the first time was mainly due to rebounding.
Here is Bam's last games to end the season.
UNC 13-7
UCLA 2 pts 4 rebounds but had 5 assists to lead the team
Witchita St 13-10
Northern Ky 15-18 boards
Arkansas 17-9
Bama 10-9
Georgia 13-10
Texas AM 13-8
Vanderbilt 16-6
Florida 18-15
Missouri 22-15
Yes he was not averaging 25 points and 15 rebounds but those stats are amongst some of the best stats in the country with centers.
Bamba is 2 inches taller and has a longer wingspan than Bam. Bamba does not want to play the 5 but the 4 and he has shown next to no offensive ability throughout his career. Really struggles with physical contact as well. We all know in the college game that it will get very physical under the basket with the refs calling next to nothing on certain teams. ie UNC How is Bamba going to utilize his god given talents if he is wanting to float around on the wing? His weight is going to be a great hindrance to his game down low and he knows it. That is why he wants to play away from under the goal.
This all kinda reminds me of Thon Maker. You guys were jizzing on yourselves over him but never watched him in a real game setting. I did and watched him a few times and come away that he was nowhere near a top 3 player in the rankings. Luckily though their was this kid named Jamal Murray who wasn't even ranked that high who I noticed. I come to the board told what I saw and the rest is history.
Thon isn't doing jack crap and Murray is having a nice career.
so how is this kid going to dominate more than Bam? Doesn't do anything very well away from the basket, trouble scoring the ball and not a great passer. What he does do well is his length in blocking shots but he doesn't want to play under the goal.
Love to have Bamba but fine with him going to Texas if Bam comes back.
Think Richards or SKJ who are both as tall as Bamba could do well.
Here is Bam's last games to end the season.
UNC 13-7
UCLA 2 pts 4 rebounds but had 5 assists to lead the team
Witchita St 13-10
Northern Ky 15-18 boards
Arkansas 17-9
Bama 10-9
Georgia 13-10
Texas AM 13-8
Vanderbilt 16-6
Florida 18-15
Missouri 22-15
Yes he was not averaging 25 points and 15 rebounds but those stats are amongst some of the best stats in the country with centers.
Bamba is 2 inches taller and has a longer wingspan than Bam. Bamba does not want to play the 5 but the 4 and he has shown next to no offensive ability throughout his career. Really struggles with physical contact as well. We all know in the college game that it will get very physical under the basket with the refs calling next to nothing on certain teams. ie UNC How is Bamba going to utilize his god given talents if he is wanting to float around on the wing? His weight is going to be a great hindrance to his game down low and he knows it. That is why he wants to play away from under the goal.
This all kinda reminds me of Thon Maker. You guys were jizzing on yourselves over him but never watched him in a real game setting. I did and watched him a few times and come away that he was nowhere near a top 3 player in the rankings. Luckily though their was this kid named Jamal Murray who wasn't even ranked that high who I noticed. I come to the board told what I saw and the rest is history.
Thon isn't doing jack crap and Murray is having a nice career.
so how is this kid going to dominate more than Bam? Doesn't do anything very well away from the basket, trouble scoring the ball and not a great passer. What he does do well is his length in blocking shots but he doesn't want to play under the goal.
Love to have Bamba but fine with him going to Texas if Bam comes back.
Think Richards or SKJ who are both as tall as Bamba could do well.
We all should pray that Bamba commits, I refuse to believe Bam will come back, he will impress in the combine and someone will take him late 1 early 2. He is gone imo.
Yeah but u seem to act like Bam wasn't double teamed every possession. Or that he was hammered basically every time touch the ball. easy to say bad hands when he has two guys ripping his arms off.
What has Bamba ever dominated? You take the double double guy that has proven he can play in college. Especially since we already have Richards who is a 5 and Bam who is a 4. Bamba can say he wants to play the 4 all he wants but he's a 5.
I don't think he's under appreciated at all. If anything he's a bit overhype's by UK fans. And that's fine. It's not like he's a bum. But,
Davis
Cousins
Towns
Randle
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Noel
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The rest
For OAD bigs at UK he just doesn't meet the mark needed. It's fine that people are looking to Bamba as a need. He's a tree, he blocks shots, he can take the lobs easily, he FITS Cal better than Bam. And I don't know why all of a sudden some are afraid of "the unknown". Thats all we've been doing for 8 years. You can bring up Skal, but I'd argue he's an outlier. You cite Skal, I cite AD, Towns, Counsins, Noel, Randle. I can play AND win that game.
Give me both or give me Bamba, but Bamba to Duke and Bam back to UK would be a huge blow. It's too risky.
Let's not forget that Bam, at his siZe and strength, is not even guaranteed a first round selection. That's rather alarming. There's plenty of evidence to support he's not the dominant force some are pretending.
Yeah I don't disagree with you completely. But have we ever seen what Bam could do with another big in the game with him. Esp one like Richards who is 7ft 250 with a mean streak. I just don't think Bam was able to be highlighted as good as some of the other Cal bigs. Even Noel in 13 had Wiltjer and Poythress played like a super frosh some that year. Randle had WCS and Johnson. Davis had Jones Towns had WCS Lyle Johnson. Jones had Harrelson. Bam had a 6ft2 SF Willis and Gabriel. After the weight loss he averaged a double double. He was given the Randle treatment by the refs. I think Bam back might not be quite as big as Bamba signed but its pretty close
Again, Bamba is the #2 player in the class and is rated over Carter, who's a beast. Bamba is the real deal. And he FITS. Cal needs guys like him to be effective. We simply had nothing inside this year and it showed late in the tournament.
Most of Cals bigs are young and raw, but they had other things going for them. Tall, shot blocking, rim protecting, lob dunking etc. Bam doesn't have that AND hes offensively handicapped against taller trees. Crap without hump against UNC we might lose by 10. Bam was totally ineffective inside and it took hump hitting from the outside.
I'm going with Bamba. I think it will work out that way anyway.
The NBA isn't high on Bam either. At his body and frame not being a guaranteed first round selection is something else to consider.
Randle was double teamed and tripled teams. He was fouled far worse than Bam all season. He still dominated.
Bam just isn't a great player. He's got a thick body and I believe it throws people off. He's not tall enough to play the 5 at Kentucky. If we're going to sacrifice the height and shot blocking down low, you better come with someone who can hit shots and offset some of that. Bam doesn't.
AD was poor on offense coming in. I watched him throw basketballs everywhere but in the hoop as a senior. It doesn't matter. What guys like that do on the court matters so much more than offense. They ERASE points, they cause havoc on the floor, they make guards double take before pentitration. They disrupt the boards. We've all been here before.
Bam at 6'8 simply cannot do that, and he has no offensive game either.
I Won't keep going through it we'll see.
Just because you are old enough to spell and have access to a keyboard doesn't mean you deserve to give these horrible takes to the world. You clearly do not understand the game of basketball and therefore I give up, and I don't give up on many people.
If I really believed it was possible, I'd want both. I just don't think it's going to happen. In my mind.
Bam to UK = Bamba to Duke
Bam to NBA = Bamba to UK
Bam to UK = Bamba AND Carter at Duke.
Two top 5 players in the class, both big men, at Duke, no.
And I'm shocked so many actually would prefer that. They'd be in for a rude awakening.
Some people on the dook boards say Bamba is trending towards Texas. Is there any chance in that?
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