Yeah that's what I'm wondering..........had Knox gone to like I dunno Depaul........would his name even been included.
probably not. It's so insignificant.
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Yeah that's what I'm wondering..........had Knox gone to like I dunno Depaul........would his name even been included.
probably not. It's so insignificant.
He wasn't declared ineligible for his SAT scores...common misconception.....after initially clearing him, the NCAA then wanted to interview him about his SAT scores....Derrick Rose ignored their repeated requests....failure to respond to those requests resulted in him being declared ineligible.
I think everyone can agree, the agent(s) involved is a massive scumbag. Hope he gets the max prison sentence.
MJ and crew just read the rules and if Knox just goes ahead and pays some charity 200 dollars today, he won't have an issue playing tomorrow. Even if he didn't have a lunch with him.
Can you get into a contract with a minor?
Who does this spreadsheet benefit?
Who does this spreadsheet benefit?
The testing service invalidated his score, and he refused to meet with them to defend himself. The NCAA declared him ineligible because of that.
Not sure how it's managed to last this long...
(Leans over so attorney can whisper in ear) On the advice of counsel, I invoke my 5th amendment privilege.
Why would KU walk if we don't. Didn't Jacksons mother take 2700 or was that after his playing days.
What in your paranoid mind makes you think I am a fan from another team? I am not trying to justify anything. Just stating something that looks to be true in the initial report. I just think it is a joke when someone shares something that is unpopular to you, you say troll. Unreal
If we go down ... then Duke, Michigan St, UNC, Zona etc etc are all going down too.
Ehh, I’m honestly not THAT worried. This is completely different from UL for example who hired hookers then tried to pay 100k for a recruit to sign.
Ehh, I’m honestly not THAT worried. This is completely different from UL for example who hired hookers then tried to pay 100k for a recruit to sign.
I don’t think we will face any penalties that half a dozen other schools will face IF all this crap comes to fruition.
Yep. This is what UofL fans kept pointing to in thinking they'd get off. For minor offenses, it's fairly easy to make good. Where they were wrong of course was in assuming "minor" always is determined by dollar amount. What they did wasn't a lunch. It was something the NCAA called "repugnant." We should get off easy on the Knox part of this - which will cause all of their heads to simultaneously explode.
You're right. I had read otherwise years ago and I guess I never checked it. He apparently didn't take the SAT in question until 05/07.
You're the one that thinks nothing will come from this when a player took 40 thousand dollars lol
Wrong bozo, do you think the NCAA has a enforcement Staff the size of the DOJ? Too many players, too many schools and too much money to defend the lawsuits that would be brought by its member institutions. Unless the NCAA can tie benefits directly to the schools staff nothing will be done.
I wouldn’t put much stock in Jones’ understanding of the by-laws. I’m guessing he read the restitution by-law (which is for under $100 and not $200).
Restitution applies only to “Impermissible Benefits”. It does not apply to “Extra Benefits”. They are not the same thing.
Knox may very well be able to make a donation and regain eligibility quickly if needed. But it will still require going through the reinstatement process (which can happen quickly) and not simply reporting a donation.
EDIT: this assumes Knox even attended and received a free meal in the first place. I think both of those still need to be determined unlike I missed an update.
Plus UNC has already come out and defended themselves.
https://scout.com/college/north-car...er-Responds-to-Yahoo-Sports-Report--115460859
only a matter of time before Duke does the same.
This is technically false. His SAT test was invalidated, which caused him to be ruled ineligible by the NCAA. It was because he did not cooperate that the NCAA came down with such hard penalties on Memphis.
The key to that situation is that Thomas AND the jewelry store refused to talk to the NCAA. Bam may refuse to talk, but the dirty agent may sing like a bird to anyone who will listen in order to save his own hide with the FBI.
Well, things change a bit (potentially) when the FBI is involved.
That being said, you’re still entitled to your *opinion* , but an opinion is not fact.
I suppose we will wait and see? Hopefully it’s all moot anyways
There is no reason for such an absurd document to exist, it's very odd.
Not the way I wanted to start my day.
I hope we don't get in a lot of trouble. It looks like - for now - at worst we lose 32 wins from last year and the NIT year. I can live with that if everyone else receives the same penalty.
I hope we don't get in a lot of trouble. It looks like - for now - at worst we lose 32 wins from last year and the NIT year. I can live with that if everyone else receives the same penalty.
How are we going down. The spreadsheet only said that Tony Bradley met with the agent(not a violation) and his father said they only met after he declared. Second, Brice Johnson had dinner at Carrabba's with an agent and his high school coach. There is no proof that the agent paid for Brice's meal and even if he did how are you going to burn down an entire program over some nasty pasta from Carraba's.
You should really be embarrassed about Haywood being mentioned. Everyone who works with Haywood jokes about how cheap he is. Well now we have proof that even after a decade in the NBA, the man is still pulling the "I forgot my wallet" line on his agent at dinner.
I predict Knox plays. I believe the rule is any money that needs to be repaid must be done once the school is made aware of it. Pretty sure we have not gotten anything official, or even IF anything needs to be repaid. If we do get official notice, then it would have to be repaid before he could play subsequent to that.
Trust me, we know all too well that you guys are bulletproof. Your entire roster could be in this spreadsheet with 100K next to their name and the NCAA wouldn't do jack.
Barnhart is the one I worry about. He seems like the type that will admit that something happened just to be the good guy in all of this instead of trying to go down fighting like the Dukes and North Carolinas of the world. Then we get punished more harshly like back in 1989. I say admit nothing and if anything comes of it you just use the Maggette and Duke case to fight it in court.
In the Knox situation I say play him until you're told he isn't allowed to play. This isn't the NCAA saying he did anything. This is from a crooked agent and Knox's dad has already denied it happened. What's the worst that will happen by playing him? You lose a handful more games if they try and rule him ineligible. We likely won't win very many more if we don't play him waiting on the NCAA to rule when they aren't even investigating it. It hasn't even gotten to the NCAA yet and people want to go ahead and punish him for something that might not have even happened.
I wouldn't go crazy just yet. Do you know how much money the NCAA makes off of college basketball. Their not going to lose their cash cow. Not with this many big names tied to it and probably more to come. The FBI isn't going after our players for this so it may just result in rule changes. Unless they want San Fran playing St Marys for the final. Ratings plunge!
First off say a agent or anyone hands a player 10 100 bills in high school and says remember me when you make it kid. How in the hell would the college know? Same applies here in a way. What if our players were getting that money to go to other schools potentially, who knows.
Also quick question, where are we on wins? I haven't checked who's closest in a long time, but it's always a prideful thing to say we have the most wins ever in college basketball.
Also quick question, where are we on wins? I haven't checked who's closest in a long time, but it's always a prideful thing to say we have the most wins ever in college basketball.
