Oh come on now Deli, did you see the video that ok cats posted? This kid shot 100% and made the correct decision on every play. He's a starter.
Baker commits to UK!!!
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Sooooooooo this kid is by far the closest player to Lamb we have signed since he played here. Vanderbilt is by far the closest player to MKG since he played and Bamba would be by far the closest to Davis. Guys we're getting the band back together from 2012! (hopefully Washington/Gabriel can be 70% of Terrence Jones)
It is said we was ranked close to 200 in the country in shooting this year? IF true, another true shooter for good measure would be nice. It seems the only definite good shooters are Green and Baker. Alexander looked pretty decent to me also. So Johnson is very huge for us. Wish we could consistently get our roster with 6 legit shooters year in and year out.
Frankly I think our best hopes are to land johnson and to get bam back or bamba. I think Knox willl end up at mizz or unc which is the best place for him since he would have zero competition. I don't know what the hell bamba is thinking with Texas they will be awful like normal. Rick Barnes was the best thing Texas had bringing in studs all the time, problem is he couldn't do anything in the tournament. From Tj ford, bradley, to Durant and so on. I don't see the allure for guys wanting to play at Texas. All bamba would donis prolong the inevitable of smart getting canned. He's just like lomar, jones, and Martin guys that can recruit but coaching is a whole different story. I'm sure there are reasons why cal didn't recruit guys like Walker or the couple other uncommitted mcds all Americans. I'm happy with baker. He will be a guy that can come in and play a few mins a game and won't kill you. He's a zone buster which is what we need and will be able to come in and keep the defense honest. Johnson would be nice because he's a 6'7 shooting guard and can also play the 3 if need be. I don't expect him to come in and play 15 mins a game. It if he's on I could see him playing 8-10 depending on matchups. A I know no one expects anything out of him, but I think cal jr will play a little this season and can come in and hit atleast 1 3 a game
Does that make Cam Johnson a little Darius Miller and Quade a poor man's Teague?!
This kid definitely has some range. Some of the shots he hit on the clips were 10 ft behind the line. I just hope he can guard somebody so he can stay on the floor.
Maybe you have heard of pj Washington and jarred vanderbilt....they are getting tons of minutes. Here's whose getting 20-25 minutes... green, diallo,Vanderbilt,Washington,bamba, Richards,Johnson, then maybe wenyen....then baker and sja
I think Coach Cal seen this year we did lack on shooters. We had Monk and Willis and that was about it with shooters. Coach Cal said right after the season he wanted more shooters. If Coach Cal continues to want to play the 3 guard lineup you have to get more shooters. This year Monk was the only 3 point shot out of the 3 guards. Fox and Briscoe were more midrange jumpers and that sometimes hurt us at the 3 guard lineup. That is why Duke and Kansas were so successful at the 3 guard lineup when you have Duke and you have Kennard and Allen draining the 3 and Kansas had Jackson and Mason plus Graham that could drill the 3 point shot. We have Quade Green and is supposed to be a better shooter, Alexander has a nice shot, and Cam Johnson at Pitt had a 41% 3 point shot, and Baker can shoot. That would give us 3 or 4 guards that can shoot well outside and from 3 point. We also have seen that Vanderbilt and Washington has a nice touch from outside and from 3 point. This would really us next year if can add Cam Johnson to the mix. I watched Cam Johnson's game against UNC this year and he went 9/12 from outside and 6/9 from 3 point for 24 points in a close game at UNC. Also, Cam Johnson is 6'8 and he reminds me a lot like Josh Jackson from Kansas that was 6'8 and shot 38% from 3 and was an outstanding guard for Kansas. If we get Johnson to go with Green, Diallo, Alexander, and Baker at Guards and then Vanderbilt, Washington, Bamba, and Richards we are set for an outstanding season next year.
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Launches 27 footer... "Aww shit. Damn."
Flying sideways fadeaway from the corner... "Dayum."
Catch and shoot from 28 feet... "Aw shit."
Kentucky has 12 scholarships out counting Bam and Baker. We are saving one for Bamba.
Unless someone transfers, Cam Johnson will not be a Wildcat.
1. Green
2. Diallo
3. Vanderbilt
4. Washington
5. Hump
6. Alexander
7. Baker
8. Wenyen
9. SKJ
10. Richards
11. Wynyard
12. Bam ?
13. Bamba ?
Unless someone transfers, Cam Johnson will not be a Wildcat.
1. Green
2. Diallo
3. Vanderbilt
4. Washington
5. Hump
6. Alexander
7. Baker
8. Wenyen
9. SKJ
10. Richards
11. Wynyard
12. Bam ?
13. Bamba ?
My biggest hope every year is that we'll have a few holdovers and get to the point to where we have a few juniors and seniors every year.
This year it looks like we'll keep SKJ and Gabriel. Humphries possibly.
Next year, early on it makes sense that we could keep Alexander, and now Baker.
Maybe we still lose 5 to the draft, but I doubt all 4 of Vanderbilt/Washington/SKJ/Gabriel go.
So in 2 years you're potentially looking at a returning group of:
Alexander
Baker
SKJ
Gabriel
These are all guys that would be stars at other schools. And then the entire 2018 recruiting class.
Just need to avoid the transfer bug.
Matthews and Lee would have been absolutely huge this past season, and going into next season in regards to Matthews.
This year it looks like we'll keep SKJ and Gabriel. Humphries possibly.
Next year, early on it makes sense that we could keep Alexander, and now Baker.
Maybe we still lose 5 to the draft, but I doubt all 4 of Vanderbilt/Washington/SKJ/Gabriel go.
So in 2 years you're potentially looking at a returning group of:
Alexander
Baker
SKJ
Gabriel
These are all guys that would be stars at other schools. And then the entire 2018 recruiting class.
Just need to avoid the transfer bug.
Matthews and Lee would have been absolutely huge this past season, and going into next season in regards to Matthews.
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As I've said, with Bamba this team will be the closest we've had to 2012 in terms of style. Cal can do crazy ish with wings who can guard the perimeter and a shot blocking big.
I'm so ready for Bamba to commit
I'm so ready for Bamba to commit
(Bolded and underlined) No no no no no no no no no!! The rest may be fine but I didn't read.
Reminder- UK didn't get beat in the 2nd round, like Duke, or get their ass handed to them in a regional final, like Kansas. So I fail to see how their 3 guard lineups were that much more effective than UK's.
And sorry, Cam Johnson is nothing like Josh Jackson, other than being about the same height. Jackson is a freak athlete with solid skills and an iffy shot (that 38% came because he was really selective, and people left him open to take those shots). Johnson is not very athletic, doesn't have great ballhandling/passing skills, but is a very good shooter.
Bam, Hump, and Gabriel aren't sure things yet. I would, in fact, be very surprised if all 3 are here next year.
Huh. I just think Diallo will be playing the 3.
The lineup should be Greene, Alexander, Diallo, Washington, Richards.
Has nothing to do with Baker. He will be a back up. Even if Johnson comes on board, I still think Diallo is the better option at the 3.
Others disagree and that is ok. I certainly am not going to toot my horn or be concerned if I am right or wrong. Just an opinion.
A few items play into the picture here. There is a difference between a 4 star that was recruited early on and continued to be recruited and a 4 star recruit that comes to the scene late.
The early recruit is compared to all the players. The late comer is compared to what is left available. You get a better judgement of the player if you recruit him early.
Also, a 4 star at another school is expected to improve, gain playing time and then become the focal point or part of the focal point. Here a 4star is to learn, improve, but will be recruited over as far as talent goes.
Quit reading after "that's why Duke and Kansas were so successful." Did you even watch the tournament?
Vanderbilt is now being touted as the most underated player in the class. Just dominated playing the SF at legit 6ft9 and u think the guy who will be drafted as a 2 in the NBA won't play 2 at UK. Either way Twitter is a buzz about Baker being underated. Has grown to a legit 6ft4 has a quick release and some are comparing him to Napier from UConn who was ranked very similar. This guy can play and he will contribute this year and if anyone has sat and actually watched games like I have and still say he is like Hawkins or Mulder is dead wrong better handle, better passer, and better shooter than Mulder. Bigger and way better shooter than Hawkins and a completely different position. This kid is very competitive which I think was part of Mulders problem. No drive
Why are you starting the back up PG over the current top rated recruit who actually plays SF?
Based on? Kid was ranked when he was 6ft he is now 6ft4 and still growing. He signed in Dec of 15 and forgotten about. Is bigger and ranked the same as Napier was from UConn I wonder did Napier contribute?
Have watched him play three games now I stand by everything I have said better player than is ranked. He is bigger than we all initially thought hit late growing spurt legit 6ft4 and may get bigger. He is not monk athletically but he isn't cam Mills either. See Shabazz Napier who Baker is now bigger than. He also was a 4 star ranked in the 70s.
Well Humphries is gone. So Bam and Gabriel would be our only 2 options. My guess is that we will have 1 left.
I made the comment due to this;
"This is the kind of multi-year player that most teams out there are going after to build a contender around."
Sorry but for most of the teams the other poster listed were the "best" they could possibly hope for, not what they chose to build a team around. They wouldn't start there if they could start higher looking at the top tier recruits. Yes I include Lewisville in that catagory as the best they can hope for... they do that out of necessity not their plan.
I stand by my statement. (Well, it is with a little hint of JW why I used that particular statement...)
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I get Vanderbilt and Washington mixed up. Sub Vanderbilt for Washington.
It is an opinion.
I like that way better than some of these people who just say low four star won't play. I mean we have fans who witched about Jenkins going to Vandy and the pg from here who went to lsu a few years ago and others who were ranked similar who actually we're thorns in our side that we don't recruit these kinds of players. I believe after watching him play and reading up about him growing and possibly still growing being an early commit to cal that is the kind of kid who gets forgot about by the recruiting experts then a year later the kid goes to cal has a game where he hits 7 threes and we all go where did he come from. Baker meets the criteria.I made the comment due to this;
"This is the kind of multi-year player that most teams out there are going after to build a contender around."
Sorry but for most of the teams the other poster listed were the "best" they could possibly hope for, not what they chose to build a team around. They wouldn't start there if they could start higher looking at the top tier recruits. Yes I include Lewisville in that catagory as the best they can hope for... they do that out of necessity not their plan.
I stand by my statement. (Well, it is with a little hint of JW why I used that particular statement...)
If a SF who is ranked 75 has all the skills to play sf at a high level but is only 6ft4 so is ranked low grows 4 inches to 6ft8 the guru's send him up the rankings with a bullet. But a 2 guard who is 6ft or 6ft1 shoots up four inches his senior year and is already signed he sits right where he is. So I think many are in for a surprise.
We all assume a kid in that area is like all kids ranked in that area. But it's not true. A 6ft10 or taller ranked there usually takes a couple of seasons because most of the time they have all the physical tools and no development. Guards ranked in this area seem to always produce earlier because it's usually just a couple of inches in height or the lack of ability to play above the rim that keeps them from moving up. Well Baker has grown and has handles and speed comparable to Aaron Harrison and now isn't to far off height wise and he shoots the ball way better.
Real easy to forget to that his growth was missed by many and he was forgot about because of the early commit and being a West coast kid and not seen as often during his hs season. This was a new York kid like lamb I would bet u would see him around 30 to 35 and a year loaded with bigs probably ranked right about the same Baker would have been in this class
Rankings mean little. By this premise, Baker is rated 78.
He could be Brandon Robinson or Lamar Peters.
Or King McClure.
or Shelton Mitchell or Robert Cartwright.
Or Jordan Matthews.
Hopefully he becomes an amazing player, like Napier, but he will more likely be a serviceable backup that helps the team.
Being an early singed California kid many missed his growth spurt. And have not seen much of him cause he was west coast. He had a been an oak Hill guy my guess he would have been ranked bout the same place lamb would have in this class. Considering this class is heavy on bigs
No it's not Vandy is and always has been a three and who we were going after to play 3 along with Knox and Johnson. Diallo has always been targeted for playing the 2 we were forward heavy and guard lite in this class no way someone who is based on ur knowledge and the way you write did you come up with the conclusion that Diallo was recruited to play the 3. So my guess is Troll
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