True, but he's actually made it to the tournament every year. Which is a requirement to win a NC. If a title is the measure of success, especially at blue blood programs, then only 1 coach has a successful season each year, and means Cal & Self are tied.
No one would dispute who has recruited more talent. Shouldn't the results net a bigger payoff?
My point being, picking measures of success can be based off different criteria.
I'm tired of the "we're young" excuse. Not because there isn't any validity to it, but because he's chosen to build his team this way, so if you know that it leads to issues at points, then why not address the problem? He's literally been able to raid the cupboard year in & year out. What's preventing him from interjecting the roster with glue guys who are talented but likely to be here 3 or 4 years. Maybe, the staff isn't as good at evaluating talent? Anyone can spot a Ferrari and Lambo and know it's a beast. A lot different from spotting a street car with potential to be a hotrod with some fine tuning. I mean seriously, doesn't it seem like we're stockpiling temporary talent and the only upperclassmen end up being guys once hyped who've stuck around due to underwhelming expectations.
Nobody pegged either guy running the point at KU this year as 1 or 2 year guys, or even they'd be as good as they are. Somehow 2 guys who were going to Towson and Appalachian State turned into the best backcourt in the country. Either way, Self and his staff have a better eye for spotting diamonds in the rough capable of being glue guys, or they're better developing and coaching x's and o's?