You make it sound like getting dumped by someone you're crazy about is some rare form of cancer that few people ever have to experience.
It sucks, but the rest of what you said sounds more like something you need/needed to resolve psychologically than something that is common to that situation. Being in the dumps for a few weeks or even months? Sure. Seriously entertaining suicide? That's a wiring thing.
How can anyone say that Pastner has been nothing but a disaster? He was given the keys to the Benz and ditched it.
This is true chad. Josh as a person is a great guy. Horrible coach and disciplinary figure. He doesn't know how to handle players. They don't respect him at all. his days are numbered in Memphis. I wouldn't be surprised if it's his last year if the Lawson brothers and co. Don't overachieve. Pastner losing the local golden boy will kill his,career at Memphis.
I've been out of town so I haven't heard anything concrete. But Austin and his family live right down the road from me . This local community puts him on a pedestal. I'm sure more will come out in the next few days. This will cause pastners demise. I'm not buying the girlfriend thing either. Austin has had girls around him since high school. He is the local golden boy of Memphis, kinda like Rex back in the day was for UK. That's how fans see him here. This is gonna get ugly for both sides
I think a lot of it is Pastner, but you also have to look at who these guys are and how they're coming to Memphis. When a big number of your "star" recruits are guys from the area who are steered toward the program, it's easy to see how they might not fit. They aren't really choosing to go there like traditional players might.
But apparently that's how the city operates, and it's not like Pastner, who seems to be a great young guy, has the experience or clout or personality to manage all of those "agreements." I don't think he's necessarily awful, but he's in the shark tank before he's even a good enough swimmer to take the floaties off.
That's a good way of putting it. Especially your last line. You are right about all the Memphis kids. That's why Cal never took more than one or so. He didn't like dealing with all the other people involved so close to homeI think a lot of it is Pastner, but you also have to look at who these guys are and how they're coming to Memphis. When a big number of your "star" recruits are guys from the area who are steered toward the program, it's easy to see how they might not fit. They aren't really choosing to go there like traditional players might.
But apparently that's how the city operates, and it's not like Pastner, who seems to be a great young guy, has the experience or clout or personality to manage all of those "agreements." I don't think he's necessarily awful, but he's in the shark tank before he's even a good enough swimmer to take the floaties off.
Then he will be a good guy, until then he is a bad guypeople ragging on pastner now....at some point he probably will get fired...but it wouldnt be all that shocking for Cal to reach out and get him a job at UK.
It's definitely a fair observation and overall pretty accurate imo. The only thing I would add, is he's just not a good head coach, and the inner city kids don't relate to the guy. A man that doesn't believe in cursing, screaming, and alcohol/soft drinks is not going to relate well with the inner city youth in this town. It was never going to work to begin with. Pastners built more for BYU than Memphis. It was a horrible hire from the start.
Personally, I like him, but he's not head coach material. I'm not sure he ever will be.
Seems odd that the restricted schools include teams that Memphis plays next year OOC, considering the fact that Nichols won't be able to play next year.Austin was officially released today, with some restrictions.
www.commercialappeal.com/sports/tigers/mens-basketball/memphis-grants-conditional-release-to-austin-nichols
I hope that Nichols is the one M.Jones been talking about.
If it is Nichols so sorry Memphis.![]()
He won't. How close was he to your Duke Blue Devils during his recruitment?I don't believe he would be able to play next year.
I followed his recruitment pretty closely. It's been awhile but I believe Duke technically made his top 3 but that Memphis was considered the heavy favorite, which is how it played out.He won't. How close was he to your Duke Blue Devils during his recruitment?
UK has reached out to him.
Not surprising. Unless we hear anything about Ayton reclassifying the only decent bigs for 2016 are Maker, Azubuike and Bolden and I'm not sure where we stand with any of them. Gotta at least put out the feelers...UK has reached out to him.
FIFYMatt jones has been saying stuff about adding another for a while. Nichols situation just became public a few days ago
I followed his recruitment pretty closely. It's been awhile but I believe Duke technically made his top 3 but that Memphis was considered the heavy favorite, which is how it played out.
He averaged 3.4 blocks/game last year, top 5 in the country. We haven't had a rim protector in quite a while, would be interesting if there's mutual interest between him and the Duke staff.
Maybe it's me but I don't think anyone associated with UK wouldFIFY
Not how it works. The family likely put out feelers weeks ago when he was first considering transferring.Maybe it's me but I don't think anyone associated with UK would
Be contacting a Memphis player before anything was official. I don't think Cal would want anything to become a problem especially involving their best player. Memphis fans and people
Associated with Memphis would
Love nothing better
I am only going by rivals ranking:
Will Barton 5stars - 2 year player, 2nd round pick. This was the one that started to make people question. Barton was a first year first round talent.
Joe jackson 5 stars - wanted to leave Memphis as a sophomore and junior. 4 years undrafted. Was talked into staying and did not enjoy his pastner experience.
Jalen Kendrick 5 stars - lol transfer
Adonis Thomas 5 stars - 2 year player, projected potential lottery out of high school, undrafted.
Austin Nichols 5 stars - Golden boy of Memphis thought to be 1 to 2 year player. - TRANSFER/junior
And then you add all of the 4 stars players that he got and he still couldn't win with all that talent in a bad conference.
Pastner has won too many games at Memphis to call it a horrible hire. The problem is, coach cal won so much that memphis thinks they are better as a program than what they really are.
Not surprising. Unless we hear anything about Ayton reclassifying the only decent bigs for 2016 are Maker, Azubuike and Bolden and I'm not sure where we stand with any of them. Gotta at least put out the feelers...
Coaches leave without permission how is that different?
No, lol, you're still not getting it.
You need to do some unbiased research into Memphis and Josh Pastner and then form the opinion. Here's a hint: there's a reason EVERYBODY including Memphis brass, fans, outsiders, insiders, message boards, political commentators, Obama, Judge Joe Brown, and the late Paul Walker thinks he's in way over his head. There's a reason his own players trash him. There's a reason players transfer mid stream and don't even give him a phone call. There's a reason he's lost 2 of the last 3 five star studs out of his own city to transfer(it was nearly 3/3). There's a reason he's buying recruits now, and he couldn't recruit a national five star to save a life. There's a reason he's going to miss his second nit, N.I.T in a row. Theres a REASON FOR THESE THINGS.
And there's a reason he's going to be fired after this season.
What there's not a reason for, is you not seeing it. Let it be dude You were wrong. Just own it because you're not up on the situation and you never were. It's cool man. Time to let go and let God on this one bro.
Why does it have to be different and who said it was? Who prior to this comment even compared this situation to a coach leaving or indicated that it is ok for the coach but not the player?
Timing for the transfer is not the best for either party actually; player or school. Just as it would be poor timing for the school and the coach if a coach and school parted company at this time of the year if one or the other wanted to end their relationship. Stating that the timing is not good does not indicate any bias for one side or the other, it is what it is. To me it is merely stating the obvious, timing of the decision is bad for both parties. That said, if he wants to go you have to let him go.