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Are Indiana And Butler The Only 2 Mid-Majors To Appear In Title Game Last 40+ Yrs?

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ummm well last time i checked you asked how having all cals players go pro or graduate compares to indiana, right????
well, indiana under crean is the exact same in that regard, so.....

there is a dummy here, thats for sure
 
Jonny Marlin - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Remy Abell - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Austin Etherington - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Hanner Mosquera-Perea - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Stanford Robinson - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Andrew Calomeris - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Joe Fagan - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Paul Bayt - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Jeremy Hollowell - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Luke Fischer - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Peter Jurkin - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Devin Davis - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Max Hoetzel - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Jeremiah April - Did NOT go pro or graduate
 
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ummm well last time i checked you asked how having all cals players go pro or graduate compares to indiana, right????
well, indiana under crean is the exact same in that regard, so.....

there is a dummy here, thats for sure

Yeah, this is about the same. Kind of like losing 16 of the last 20 games to us is about the same.

NewJonny Marlin - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Remy Abell - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Austin Etherington - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Hanner Mosquera-Perea - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Stanford Robinson - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Andrew Calomeris - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Joe Fagan - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Paul Bayt - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Jeremy Hollowell - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Luke Fischer - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Peter Jurkin - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Devin Davis - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Max Hoetzel - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Jeremiah April - Did NOT go pro or graduate
 
hahahahahha... those players aren't at iu... they transferred
how dumb are you guys... and for the record etherington did graduate.

you have a guy get on here and say that all cals players went pro or graduated...

well they haven't... if we are counting transfers

he asked how having every player go pro or graduate compared to Indiana. Which it compares the exact same. Because indiana is in the exact same boat.

and if we are going to include transfers then kentucky can't say that "every player cal has had has went pro or graduated"
 
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ummm well last time i checked you asked how having all cals players go pro or graduate compares to indiana, right????
well, indiana under crean is the exact same in that regard, so.....

there is a dummy here, thats for sure
Maybe you don't know what going pro or graduating means.

You see, going pro means you leave college and start getting paid to play basketball. Graduating means earning a degree. Most Indiana basketball players to not accomplish either of these. That list I made above... that's just three years of IU players that did not accomplish either.

Hang in there. Keep trying and you'll make it through middle school.
 
it is the same dummy... if you are comparing transfer lists indiana's is longer.

but you say that all cal players have graduated or went pro.... Ummm, ok, well if we are not including transfers, then that would be true. and i assume we are not counting transfers, because that is the ONLY way your statement is true.

so if we are comparing non transfers, which again, i assume we are not, or else you are just making stuff up about cal graduating or takign every kid pro, but if we are not including transfers they are the exact same...

i hate to try using logic with dummies, but i tried
 
hahahahahha... those players aren't at iu... they transferred
how dumb are you guys... and for the record etherington did graduate.

you have a guy get on here and say that all cals players went pro or graduated...

well they haven't... if we are counting transfers

he asked how having every player go pro or graduate compared to Indiana. Which it compares the exact same. Because indiana is in the exact same boat.

and if we are going to include transfers then kentucky can't say that "every player cal has had has went pro or graduated"

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Indiana University = Transfer University
 
Jonny Marlin - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Remy Abell - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Austin Etherington - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Hanner Mosquera-Perea - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Stanford Robinson - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Andrew Calomeris - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Joe Fagan - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Paul Bayt - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Jeremy Hollowell - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Luke Fischer - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Peter Jurkin - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Devin Davis - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Max Hoetzel - Did NOT go pro or graduate
Jeremiah April - Did NOT go pro or graduate


Not to nitpick, but Etherington graduated from IU, at least four of those guys are walk-ons, (some of who may have graduated...I have no idea) and five of those players were dumped after they were found to have been repeatedly drinking underage (unless we're talking about DDavis and Perea - they were for a little weed).

Fischer? Fischer!?! Crean would have given his left nut for that kid to have stayed. Great kid, very good 6'11 player who transferred back to his home state midseason. Would have started last year and this year.

If Crean is getting rid of players who are caught drinking underage more than once and/or lighting up, that's what I expect an ethical coach at IU to do. That's why Sampson was a disaster. I'm not naive; I know that a fair majority of college bball players may use weed and most drink. But if you get caught a couple of times at IU it seems to be handled appropriately.

Once again, there is a legit criticism of Crean, and S&C nailed it in this thread: Can he achieve high level success on the court?
 
that's what going pro or graduating means, i agree.
do you understand that cal hasn't had all his players graudate or go pro?
do you understand that, brah?
it seems like you don't
 
it is the same dummy... if you are comparing transfer lists indiana's is longer.

but you say that all cal players have graduated or went pro.... Ummm, ok, well if we are not including transfers, then that would be true. and i assume we are not counting transfers, because that is the ONLY way your statement is true.

so if we are comparing non transfers, which again, i assume we are not, or else you are just making stuff up about cal graduating or takign every kid pro, but if we are not including transfers they are the exact same...

i hate to try using logic with dummies, but i tried

Psst: Just between us; when you are an opposing team's fan and a guest on their board, calling those fans "dummies" does not make your argument stronger. In fact, it makes them look past any substance that you might have cited, and focus on your demeanor. And yes, that even holds true if they called you a dummy first!
 
Every player under Cal has gone pro or graduated. How's that compare to Indiana? Transfer U!

you all understand that this was said, right?

either cal hasn't graduated or sent every to the pros, or indiana has too

if you don't understand that logic then seriously, you aren't a smart person
 
Psst: Just between us; when you are an opposing team's fan and a guest on their board, calling those fans "dummies" does not make your argument stronger. In fact, it makes them look past any substance that you might have cited, and focus on your demeanor. And yes, that even holds true if they called you a dummy first!

dude, dummy is a top tier insult, and they weren't going to listen regardless
i never expected to be taken seriously, even with logic on my side
 
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Are you really trying to tout that line? Why do Indiana fans not demand excellence off AND on the court? How much are you paying your basketball coach to teach the university ethics course. And anyway, he's doing a terrible job at ethical recruiting. You guys have had turmoil pretty continuously.

Your post reads like you perceive anyone who does both to be, well, not doing both. I think we both know you're coping.

Come on, I know you. You know you. And I know that thou know that I know you.

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you all understand that this was said, right?

either cal hasn't graduated or sent every to the pros, or indiana has too

if you don't understand that logic then seriously, you aren't a smart person

Apparently you need more detail-at the start of this season, every player Cal has brought in has either graduated or gone pro. Ryan Harrow and Wiltjer being exceptions AT Kentucky-Wiltjer will go pro. Harrow will be the first to not-but they are still in college so still might be true.

Clear? Again, how's that compare to IU? And I love how you guys gloss over transfers that "left" because of drugs and/or alcohol as if those don't count. I guess that's considered normal at IU.
 
I'm sure it drives Indiana fans crazy knowing that Kentucky won the most recent game with IU.

And that UK has won 4 of the last 5 games.

And that UK has won 15 of the last 19 games.
 
I'm sure it drives Indiana fans crazy knowing that Kentucky won the most recent game with IU.

And that UK has won 4 of the last 5 games.

And that UK has won 15 of the last 19 games.
But all they talk about is a meaningless December game. Again, highlight of their last decade.
 
Don't down play AHope LOL! It's not how many signed, it's that's these kids were brought from Africa and dumped, left homeless to fend for themselves as soon as they didn't pick IU!!!! PURE FRIGGIN TRASH! That dude tried to adopt liggins WITHOUT RUNNUING IT BY HIS MOM FIRST, WTF!!!! And those recuits from IU just so happened to be signed months after the IU Elites son was hired by IU! Like I said PURE TRASH, the fact that you down play it proves how rotten IU is, LOL! What's up the the Dummy guy anyway, is he 5 years old? I haven't heard anyone called a dummy since I was 8 years old, LOL! I could go on in much more details about A Hope and IU elite but I don't have enough hours in this day to list all the shady stuff done! I KNOW you'll have read the SI article, and it's BAD!!!!
 
well unfortunately there's nothing deceptive about a father son make out in front of the home crowd. pretty clearly almost petting.
 
Don't down play AHope LOL! It's not how many signed, it's that's these kids were brought from Africa and dumped, left homeless to fend for themselves as soon as they didn't pick IU!!!! PURE FRIGGIN TRASH! That dude tried to adopt liggins WITHOUT RUNNUING IT BY HIS MOM FIRST, WTF!!!! And those recuits from IU just so happened to be signed months after the IU Elites son was hired by IU! Like I said PURE TRASH, the fact that you down play it proves how rotten IU is, LOL! What's up the the Dummy guy anyway, is he 5 years old? I haven't heard anyone called a dummy since I was 8 years old, LOL! I could go on in much more details about A Hope and IU elite but I don't have enough hours in this day to list all the shady stuff done! I KNOW you'll have read the SI article, and it's BAD!!!!

Too much caffiene?
 
Psst: Just between us; when you are an opposing team's fan and a guest on their board, calling those fans "dummies" does not make your argument stronger. In fact, it makes them look past any substance that you might have cited, and focus on your demeanor. And yes, that even holds true if they called you a dummy first!
That is an excellent point of view. One poster is respectful. One is not. Therefore, one poster is welcome, and one is not.
 
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well unfortunately there's nothing deceptive about a father son make out in front of the home crowd. pretty clearly almost petting.

They need to get a room like these two!






July is the silly season. Basketball will start soon.

Cheers; I'm gonna pull my sorry backside out of this thread before it further deteriorates.
 
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They need to get a room like these two!






July is the silly season. Basketball will start soon.

Cheers; I'm gonna pull my sorry backside out of this thread before it further deteriorates.
ha. well ashley has to take some heat for being a bbn representative. she's been going to games for years and vitale mentions her at least once every broadcast for the last twenty years so..btw she is very clearly vomiting in her mouth. crean actually has his eyes closed like he thinks he must be dreaming in ecstasy. and there's the big ten title um ass-erry. that was seriously a coaching embarrassment. close to billy g like only just gay/pedophile friendly.
 
And I love how you guys gloss over transfers that "left" because of drugs and/or alcohol as if those don't count. I guess that's considered normal at IU.
Hell. Would you want to be a part of that scrap heap of a program while sober?
 
HoosierJoe, would you trade Cal for Crean? If you had the power to snap your finger and make Uk/IU swap places. You get our last 7, we get your last 7? Do you make the move?

I am dying to see where you stand on this one.
 
What other mid-major programs besides those 2 have played for the title? Off the top of my head it has
been a long time.

1950 CCNY
1963 Chicago Loyola
1967 Dayton

Darryl

How about Indiana State? And would Utah be a mid major?
 
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