yup....should have been more like polson. turn the ball over, get scored on at will, and not make shots, but get adored by fans
Archie Goodwin might just end up being really good at this basketball thing
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yup....should have been more like polson. turn the ball over, get scored on at will, and not make shots, but get adored by fans
I didn't mean Archie was the ONLY player with problems on the 13 team, clearly he wasn't.
I always thought that after Noel wend down that year that Archie stepped up the best you could expect being a freshman and really no other dominate players left on the team. He was a very talented player that a bunch of our fans piled the teams poor play on to his shoulders. I would have liked to seen him played on a better team at UK and seen the numbers he would have put up.
No worries bigkari. I don't think you intended it to be an accusation of racism against people in this thread, but that's the way it came across. People here were making negative comments about him and then you say the ONLY people you know who didn't like him were rich, white racists. Regardless of your intent, it comes across wrong. But if I really thought you intended to attack people here, I'd have deleted the comment.
And by the way, some of the replies to your comment were over the top too, which is why I thought posting in the thread as a reminder might help. Trying to be fair and not overreact.
His biggest problem right now is being the 4th of 4 former UK guards who are pretty good at it to. I really thought they might trade him before the season, but the better he does the more they can get for him. Or they may decide to keep them all. I don't think guard play is their problem, but they could trade one of them to shore up other area's.
By the way, just to add my 2 cents to the topic at hand, I loved Archie when he was at UK. I love every kid who wants to come play for the big blue.
Having said that, there is no doubt he was very raw in his time here. He was often a turnover machine. He took bad shots. He tried to force things that just weren't there. It didn't help that our point guard was going through some kind of identity crisis and just didn't help him very much. Archie didn't get much help.
But lest we forget, Archie Goodwin wasn't the only reason that team struggled. In fact, I wouldn't put him in the top 5 reasons that team went to the NIT and lost to Bob Morris.
1. The loss of Nerlens Noel midseason just when the team was playing better killed us. Even with the other issues, if Noel stays healthy, we make the Dance and the ending could have been much better.
2. Point guard play. We thought Ryan Harrow would be great but he wilted from the pressure of playing point guard for UK.
3. Alex Poythress was supposed to dominate and be a one and done. That obviously didn't happen.
4. Not getting any holdovers back from that title team left the team with no experienced players and only freshmen to rely on.
5. We had very little bench depth that was ready to contribute at a high level. Willie was raw. Our best shooter was a grad transfer.
There were multiple reasons that season turned out as it did. It certainly wasn't all on Archie.
Having said that, there is no doubt he was very raw in his time here. He was often a turnover machine. He took bad shots. He tried to force things that just weren't there. It didn't help that our point guard was going through some kind of identity crisis and just didn't help him very much. Archie didn't get much help.
But lest we forget, Archie Goodwin wasn't the only reason that team struggled. In fact, I wouldn't put him in the top 5 reasons that team went to the NIT and lost to Bob Morris.
1. The loss of Nerlens Noel midseason just when the team was playing better killed us. Even with the other issues, if Noel stays healthy, we make the Dance and the ending could have been much better.
2. Point guard play. We thought Ryan Harrow would be great but he wilted from the pressure of playing point guard for UK.
3. Alex Poythress was supposed to dominate and be a one and done. That obviously didn't happen.
4. Not getting any holdovers back from that title team left the team with no experienced players and only freshmen to rely on.
5. We had very little bench depth that was ready to contribute at a high level. Willie was raw. Our best shooter was a grad transfer.
There were multiple reasons that season turned out as it did. It certainly wasn't all on Archie.
Yes, he has always had to play with some great guard talent at Phoenix, which is bad and good. Archie is very young, date of draft he was still 18. He is only 21 and I have always thought he has some great talents if he worked on shooting and playing as a team. The experiece of playing behind/with these guards has paid off. I noticed Bledsoe was among the first to congratulate him after his game winner.
3rd year, 21 yrs old and has banked more than we will ever see. Sign me up. I hope he traded to a team that gives him the minutes. You will see a star.
Phoenix loves Archie's length/athleticism/work ethic, especially for his age. I doubt they will be trading him anytime soon, especially knowing they will be able to resign him for pretty cheap sometime during next year's season or even this summer.
It's called reverse racism. If you won't say something just because a person is a certain ethnicity then race is obviously an issue for you. If race were not an issue then you most likely would never have come to the distinction in the first place. The flip side of this, though, is that people are so PC anymore you do have to be really careful about what you say as (rightfully or not) you may be labeled one thing or another (i.e racist).
yeah white racism isn't a problem
the real problem, and the real racists, are the people who insist--laughably--that white racism exists
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yeah it's so weird that anyone would think america had a problem with racism
christ, we've been letting them register to vote for almost 50 years now
when will the victims of racially motivated shootings learn to leave me and my guns and my confederate flag alone?
That team was not very good but Archie was not the main reason. He was the face of the problems because he was the one that stepped up and tried to do something. Very unfair
I hope so to if they do in fact decide to trade him. As a lot in this thread have noted he's matured. Both as a person and a player. In this Cal era it really is easy to forget these are 18 year olds. We see it all the time, and I experienced it myself. I was very different at 22 than I was 18. Almost profoundly so. But he'll face competition wherever he goes. Lots of people want that gig. I wish I could get 2 million a year. Don't most all of us?
Such an idiotic comment. You act as if racism is strictly an American problem and by your example, you seem to think it only applies to whites.
I expect your next post will be about needing to atone for white privilege. You don't get any extra PC points on here,bud and you're barking up the wrong tree trying to imply I'm a redneck with a. Confederate flag and guns. I bet you don't even see your hypocrisy with the stereotype you just tossed out there.
Congrats, you consistently have the worst takes on here.
Archie was a player,that would have benefited from another year in my opinion.
Some kids develop later,than others. He has improved,and i'm glad he came to play for us.
