AP Poll: Duke #4, Cats #5
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I posted in an earlier thread not to underestimate the Duke love and was told that it was an old wives tale. Welp the Duke love bumped them up. The media will do all they can to get Cooper Flag a 1 seed.
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They should cruise to a #1 seed. They only have one game left vs a ranked opponent, we have 10, Tenn has 10, and Auburn has 11.
I look at it this way - Duke is 2-2 against teams that are in or have been in the top 25 (W-AZ & AUB, L-UK and KS). UK is 2-1 against teams in or have been in the top 25 (W-Duke, Gonz, L-Clem). Which is the better record? I think UK's is more impressive especially when considering home/away/neutral and so early in the season.
I was just informed Cooper FlagG is from Newport, Maine. They must have real awesome basketball DNA in Newport, Maine.
And dUKe is #4 ?!?!?
wth is going on? is there anyone else except Cooper Flagg and the Flagellates ?
Newport Maine.
aint reckon this basketball bennie's ever been to Maine, although I've been to most of the other states. Maybe I should take a trip to newport Maine. Pay tribute at the Cooper FlagG shrine, light a candle. pROSTRATE MYSELF A FEW TIMES.... oops srry, caps lock ( or I was just getting really overly excited thinking aBout that there FlagG feller'.... )
what were we discussing ?
The victimization on this board is pathetic. All you all do is whine about refs, the media, the polls and anything that isn't UK propaganda. Grow a pair and realize by the end of the season this will all be straightened out.
Didn't they say for the last so many years that the NCAA champion has came out of the top 12 of this AP poll?
Yes they did. UConn and UNC aren’t in there so I’m giddy
You knew it was coming. I can’t complain about dropping one spot though, better than I expected. But Duke will never move it’s the way of the ESPN world.
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Yes we should be ahead of Duke, no question.
But, we were very close to going 0 and 2 last week and would have dropped out of the top 10.
I'll take that number 5 ranking, even if the voters are morons.
But, we were very close to going 0 and 2 last week and would have dropped out of the top 10.
I'll take that number 5 ranking, even if the voters are morons.
The SEC is a damn monster. Florida is up to 9 and Oklahoma is now 13! 5 of the top 10 are SEC schools I never thought I’d ever see this day in basketball.
Got to have a brain to go mental. lol
So they have 2 with Carolina, Illinois, Clemson, 2 with Miami. One thing about the ACC on the road is it is a lot like the SEC on the road. They will drop some games. 3 freshman leading them and they will not be perfect. Uof L was up on them for about 3/4 of the game. Then petered out at the end. We will find out how good or how bad U of L is this weekend.
go check Florida Schedule. Tell me what power houses they have beaten or played. Same for UT. I have not looked at Okra-homa schedule yet. Oklahoma has played to hardest of the 3, Arizona, Providence and Louisville. Again, not Duke, Clemson, Gonzaga. Not Auburn or Bama's schedule.
Like the SEC from a decade ago. If Duke loses more than 2 or 3 ACC games they may end up a three seed. That conference isn’t good. Duke can explain a road loss to Tardheels, Clemson and maybe Wake. Other than that, gotta win em all.
JMO I believe people expect us to fall off and this is an aberration. I believe the expectations were low coming in with a new coach and all new players and the voters don't believe their own eyes.
Chat GPT supports UK...
Updated Comparison:
Updated Comparison:
Kentucky:
- Record: 8-1
- Key Wins:
- vs. Duke (77-72): Neutral court, top-10 win.
- vs. Gonzaga (90-89): Neutral court, top-10 win.
- Loss:
- @ Clemson (70-66): Competitive road loss to #16 Clemson.
Duke:
- Record: 7-2
- Key Wins:
- @ Arizona (69-55): Impressive road win over a ranked opponent.
- vs. Auburn (84-78): Home win over the current #2 team.
- Losses:
- vs. Kentucky (77-72): Neutral court loss.
- vs. Kansas (75-72): Neutral court loss to another top-10 team.
Key Factors in the Comparison:
1. Quality Wins:
- Kentucky:
- Two top-10 victories: Duke and Gonzaga, both on neutral courts.
- Duke:
- One road win against Arizona (ranked at the time) and one home win over Auburn.
- Edge: Kentucky. While Duke’s road win over Arizona is excellent, Kentucky’s wins on neutral courts against two top-10 teams are harder to achieve.
2. Losses:
- Kentucky:
- A single road loss to a ranked Clemson team.
- Duke:
- Two neutral-court losses, including one to Kentucky.
- Edge: Kentucky. Fewer losses and no head-to-head disadvantage.
3. Head-to-Head:
- Kentucky defeated Duke head-to-head on a neutral court. This should weigh heavily in favor of Kentucky.
- Edge: Kentucky.
4. Overall Strength of Resume:
- Kentucky:
- More top-10 wins, fewer losses, and a head-to-head victory over Duke.
- Duke:
- Strong resume with the Auburn and Arizona wins, but their head-to-head loss and weaker second win compared to Kentucky’s resume still put them behind.
- Edge: Kentucky.
Conclusion:
While Duke’s road win against Arizona is noteworthy and strengthens their case, it does not outweigh Kentucky’s superior resume:- Kentucky has fewer losses.
- Kentucky has more neutral-court wins over top-10 teams.
- Kentucky defeated Duke head-to-head.
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It is very arguable for that but we do have a better overall reason to be ahead of them in that we beat them and have 1 loss compared to 2. Easy as that.
There isn’t a single argument that could legitimately be made for placing duke ahead of us. Absolutely none. And anyone that would argue other wise needs to be remanded to their nearest mental health facility
Sure there is: Cooper Flagg is 17 years old!
Duke loss to UK was erased because they was PMSing. They couldn't help it.
Duke has 2 losses / 1 for UK (on the road at Clemson). Duke losses to Kansas (neutral court) and UK (neutral court), beat Auburn (@ home) and Arizona (@ Arizona). UK beat the same Duke team and @ Gonzaga. Sounds about right. 2 losses are better than 1, especially considering one of the losses came against a team they ranked Duke higher than. To me, it seems like only way to rank them ahead of UK is IF they had beaten UK. Even if they only had the 1 loss, but they have 2. No way they should be ranked ahead of UK. Also, the @ Gonzaga win is a better win than beating Auburn @ home, same thing, UK beating Duke on a neutral court is better than Duke beating Arizona @ Arizona. Kind of conflicted about the UK loss @ Clemson compared to the Duke loss v/s Kansas on a neutral floor.
Duke has 2 losses / 1 for UK (on the road at Clemson). Duke losses to Kansas (neutral court) and UK (neutral court), beat Auburn (@ home) and Arizona (@ Arizona). UK beat the same Duke team and @ Gonzaga. Sounds about right. 2 losses are better than 1, especially considering one of the losses came against a team they ranked Duke higher than. To me, it seems like only way to rank them ahead of UK is IF they had beaten UK. Even if they only had the 1 loss, but they have 2. No way they should be ranked ahead of UK. Also, the @ Gonzaga win is a better win than beating Auburn @ home, same thing, UK beating Duke on a neutral court is better than Duke beating Arizona @ Arizona. Kind of conflicted about the UK loss @ Clemson compared to the Duke loss v/s Kansas on a neutral floor.
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Don't forget our loss (on the road) came after our starting pg went down with an injury - to a team that made the elite 8 last year. And the loss was still a 2 point game with 2 seconds to go. Last year, they went to the elite 8 & we were eliminated in the first round to a nobody, yet they stormed the floor after beating us this year. One of our top 10 wins was without the previous mentioned pg, plus with the loss of the backup pg that started in Butler's place. I think we're going to be ok.
And you ever notice how the commentators refer to him?
UK players:
Oweh to the bucket; Brea with the three; Williams with the jump hook.
As opposed to:
Cooper Flagg to the bucket; Cooper Flagg with the three; Cooper Flagg draws the foul; Cooper Flagg was looked at wrong; Cooper Flagg breathes better than all players and Cooper Flagg is only 17.
Like back in the day when Bill pACCker referred to them as Duke University while every other team was Kentucky, Arizona, Indiana etc.
And also, if you listen closely you can hear the rhythmic smacking noise and eyes rolling back in the head while they talk about him.
I will explain this. It is easy to understand.
They have hated us for years.
They have hated us for years.
Then I would suggest go somewhere else. Fans will get frustrated and act crazy in regards to their team because that’s what being a fan is.. you can meet judgment all you want, but I would suggest you look in the mirror first
Dude, it's not just our fanbase that recognizes the Duke bias. There is no justification to have them ranked that high, That's not whining or playing victim. That's just an observable fact.
that is very true...........
but we are so hungry..........starving to get back to the top. i know i want to get a #1 seed. to me that is the goal in regular season.
Only 17 wow ,and the passion he constantly demonstrates on the basketball court. I mean 17, 6ft10 Adonis gliding along the court .we should be so blessed and grateful ,with the opportunity to watch this God perform .
UK beat Duke on a neutral site and the Zags at their place and Duke is still one above us, no way this makes sense.
Only a 3 game losing streak would move Duke out of the top ten, but they would still be ranked.
Lol. Thanks for keeping us straight. Congrats on one of the dumbest posts I’ve ever seen. I’m sure you’re a smart person, but goodness man. Do you try to keep people straightened out everywhere in life, or just a UK message board?
I'm not too concerned with this vote. They have 4th, 5th and 6th within 20 points of each other which is a virtual tie with all the points available. Its basically a 1% difference....who cares.
It's nice being able to look at every voters card. You can spot the homer's and haters pretty easily. One guy did stand out as Idiot Of The Week on my scorecard. That would be the brilliant Brian Holland of WVLA, Baton Rouge.
Here's the Idiot Of The Week's vote.
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It's nice being able to look at every voters card. You can spot the homer's and haters pretty easily. One guy did stand out as Idiot Of The Week on my scorecard. That would be the brilliant Brian Holland of WVLA, Baton Rouge.
Here's the Idiot Of The Week's vote.
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I don't like Uke so anything good about them upsets me. However, we are well ahead of where most thought we would be at this point, so my happiness about us greatly overshadows whatever the Uke fan club ranks them. They will lose again so it is just a matter of time. The 2 loses are not missed no matter their rank and one of those loses came from UK.
They also have two loses. There is no excuse or argument. If anything you can argue UK should be ahead due to beating two top 10 teams this early on including dUKe.
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